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Ashi22

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Posted: 12 years ago

#181

Dear Shymala Aunty We r not bother about Onir because firstly he is an adult and secondly and more important Onir himself does not mind at all what is happening with him infact he is very happy that he is doing jeeevan sathi's Duty by breaking the Law.So no sympathy for Ex- Doctor from me atleast, On the other side Pari is just baby and cant do anything by herself and she nneds a mother, Arjun has no mother or even sister to give advice about child care obviousely he will look and ask Purvi and Ovi, But I hope soon he realise that both dont want Pari for different reason so he has to hire a proper nanny,

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soapwatcher1

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Posted: 12 years ago

#182

Vasu, good lord indeed!

Shyamala, the leopard might never change its spots but as it grew a little older and a bit more mature as she was tending too, I was hoping that the color of her coat would change and the spots would either run together or fade a bit even. I have written several times that I had begun to develop a soft corner for the new Ovi and even wrote in a response to Kalapi that I grant Ovi with more good sense than even the ones who like her much, I have a feeling with Manav's advice, she will decide to give her marriage a second chance and move forward in her life with Arjun. Marriages are easy to break but harder to keep together. Whether this marriage is worth saving is for the two involved to decide.

As for Purvi, I agree with Vasu, her being called to the stand would have led to nothing different. What could she have done to stop Onir's license from being revoked? She was sorry, shed copious tears all through the episode and she says Onir has been her everything, her support but she has brought this upon him. What more or how else can she say it to appease us?

Onir might yet see this as a blessing, his license will be restored, of course, this is soap land, but in the meantime, he will win his Mishti's heart. It will be a happy ending all around, at least I hope so.

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Kalapi

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Posted: 12 years ago

#183

Janhvi, if you were Ovi (bear with me 😆) could you give marriage a third chance? You as an audience know what Arjun's mental state was all this one year. He himself admitted that he could never forget Purvi, nor could move forward with Ovi, even though Ovi tried her level best to make their marriage work (I know that you will say Ovi didn't try😃, as was shown in the serial - but this is Arjun's monologue to sleeping Ovi, as shown again). So, according to this, Ovi did try to make her marruage work, it was Arjun's inability to meet her half way in this game, that threw the curve ball - and pushed Ovi over the edge (esp. her drinking during preganancy and her insecurities as shown in regard to Purvi). Could you give the marrige another chance, when now PAri is there who isn't even Ovi and Arjun's bio baby...I wouldn't...

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soapwatcher1

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Posted: 12 years ago

#184

Originally posted by: Kalapi
Janhvi, if you were Ovi (bear with me 😆) could you give marriage a third chance? You as an audience know what Arjun's mental state was all this one year. He himself admitted that he could never forget Purvi, nor could move forward with Ovi, even though Ovi tried her level best to make their marriage work (I know that you will say Ovi didn't try😃, as was shown in the serial - but this is Arjun's monologue to sleeping Ovi, as shown again). So, according to this, Ovi did try to make her marruage work, it was Arjun's inability to meet her half way in this game, that threw the curve ball - and pushed Ovi over the edge (esp. her drinking during preganancy and her insecurities as shown in regard to Purvi). Could you give the marrige another chance, when now PAri is there who isn't even Ovi and Arjun's bio baby...I wouldn't...

Would I ? If I loved the man blindly and to oblivion, who knows, I just might 😆 There is no right and wrong here, Kalapi. The CVS could take it either way and make the story work, let us see what they do. I for one want a happy ending.

If you really want to know what I would do😉, I would not have even looked him in the face after he left me and got engaged to Purvi, he would have been mud, nada, zilch, in my eyes and there would have been no coming back ever. But I know of women who have given their husbands umpteen chances, one can never second guess the psyche of a female.

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sashashyam

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Posted: 12 years ago

#185

Janhvi my dear,

This is positively the last time I am going to write on this or, if I can manage it, on any other thread.

What I feel about the whole caboodle now is best set out in what I wrote to Namita on another thread called It's a Big Blunder . On second thoughts and to save time, I will simply copy it below.

It is written on the basis that things will remain as they are,which is what it should be, for if the cancellation of Onir's medical licence was a farce, restoring it without any valid new evidence to negate the old one (and I do not see how it can be negated) would be an even bigger farce.

Plus the scenario I have outlined would be far more interesting than more and more of Onir sleeping on the floor, making bed tea, and nattering on about his wife's not so self-evident virtues.

If she agrees to the divorce, 95% of the forum will be aux anges, and the amar premis can drive off into the sunset. If she does not, then maybe we will have what is known in publishing parlance as 'a mature love story'.

I do not think the optimistic take on Purvi I have concluded on there is going to materialise, so the divorce would be the better option.

As for your comment @ red, Janhvi my dearest girl, you are missing the whole point. When Soham is being tried, Varsha pleads helplessly with the judge, of course to no avail, but she does it out of the desperation of her heart, in the faint hope that it might help, if only a little. So why does Purvi sit there like a goongi gudiya shedding tears? As I noted on that thread,she is no wilting lily but a very tough cookie when she wants to be. And one makes such efforts in a crunch situation, whether one believes they will work or not, because one cares. I am surprised that this self evident point has not occurred to such a perceptive person as you.I think it has, but because you want to defend your ladli, you are indulging in this sophistry.

Are you saying that one has to applaud her because she is sorry? And because she cries? I would be more inclined to kick her derriere for her with a pair of hobnailed boots.

Of course Onir will continue to back Purvi in her future idiocies as well. When young Waneeka was dismayed by articles to his effect, I explained to her that this was only to expected. For if he lost faith in her, he would lose faith in himself, and would no longer be able to live with himself. The only thing that can help him survive this ordeal is to believe that his sacrifice was worth it, as it was made for a person who deserved it. Otherwise, he would be like a prophet who has lost faith midway, and he would really crack up.

Bye, my dears, and have a lot of fun arguing back and forth. I, like Ovi, am moving on, at least for a decent interval😉😉!

Shyamala

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IT'S A BIG BLUNDER

http://www.india-forums.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=3544369&TPN=2,.

sashashyam:Posted: 20 April 2013 at 3:23am | IP Logged

Dear Namita,

In a way, I now feel much like what I felt after the Arjun-Ovi marriage. Tired, and angry and sad. Then it was for Arjun, now it is for Onir. At least for Arjun, his suffering was private, for Onir it is a crushing and very public disgrace, putting paid to an honourable and selfless career.

He might be stoic enough to cope with the public humiliation. But the loss of his profession is something else. A man who is shut out of something that is not just his profession but his passion will wither away and die of depression. He is a very strong man, but he is not given to voicing his sorrows or his problems and this introverted nature will make matters worse for him.

I loved Shakti's take yesterday on how Onir takes the blow, especially when he looks up at the ceiling before bending over and putting his head in his hand. The face spoke volumes.

I feel that Onir will now go into a shell as he starts thinking of how to pick up the pieces of his life If PR was a logical or even a moderately sensible show, they could show him appealing against the verdict of this court. But of course that is ruled out here, after this farcical court case yesterday.

In fact, I felt that this shutting himself off had already begun, for he goes off somewhere by himself immediately after he comes down and Purvi puts a hand on his shoulder.

What a lukewarm way to comfort him in such a situation! She has no qualms about hugging Arjun and weeping in his arms in public, but she cannot find it in her to hug Onir, pat his back and convey her affection and support, and her sense of guilt at having brought him to this pass. But then it is all his fault, for having been such a benighted fool and falling so hard for this woman.

So Onir might come round to thinking, if he feels that Arjun will be splitting off from Ovi, of offering Purvi a divorce by mutual consent. He no longer has a profession, and I am sure he is not qualified to be anything else but a doctor. He was never well to do, and how on earth will he manage now? He could thus conclude that he has nothing to offer her anymore, and as she has nothing to give him, as he believes, he might want to let her go, and then go off and do something in the villages.

If this happens, that would be a litmus test for Purvi, and it is to be seen if she can redeem herself at least in part by being a loving, supportive wife to her shattered husband. It is very difficult to handle a man in the throes of depression because he has been shamed publicly and can no longer do the things that were his sole passion in life. He will shy away from pity or sympathy, and might resent it, though Onir is very gentle as a rule. If she at all cares for him, she will have to find a way to tackle this crisis.

I do not think she has either the sensitivity and the intelligence to be able to understand what Onir would be going thru, nor does she care enough for him to work at pulling him out of it. So far, she has always been a taker from Onir, and I do not expect this to change. To borrow Janhvi's phrase, a leopard does not change its spots!

In fact, once she hears that Archana is out of her coma, Purvi may well abandon her husband to his fate and run back to Mumbai and her aai (presuming that they are now headed back to Kolkatta). So I have no great hopes for Onir or their relationship. If, however, she does stand by him at least now and makes herself useful, I would be pleasantly surprised.

Shyamala

Originally posted by namitagloryz

-Hello Shyamala,

How are you my dear? It is good hearing from you. I too was wondering why Purvi was hugging Arjun instead of comforting her husband. Maybe cvs wanted to please Arvi fans. I feel so sorry for Onir. The good doc losing his license and all because of Purvi. How many more lives is she going to destroy? Soham should stay away from her before she ruins his life too.

Do keep in touch

All the best

Namita

Originally posted by: soapwatcher1
Vasu, good lord indeed!

Shyamala, the leopard might never change its spots but as it grew a little older and a bit more mature as she was tending too, I was hoping that the color of her coat would change and the spots would either run together or fade a bit even. I have written several times that I had begun to develop a soft corner for the new Ovi and even wrote in a response to Kalapi that I grant Ovi with more good sense than even the ones who like her much, I have a feeling with Manav's advice, she will decide to give her marriage a second chance and move forward in her life with Arjun. Marriages are easy to break but harder to keep together. Whether this marriage is worth saving is for the two involved to decide.

As for Purvi, I agree with Vasu, her being called to the stand would have led to nothing different. What could she have done to stop Onir's license from being revoked? She was sorry, shed copious tears all through the episode and she says Onir has been her everything, her support but she has brought this upon him. What more or how else can she say it to appease us?

Onir might yet see this as a blessing, his license will be restored, of course, this is soap land, but in the meantime, he will win his Mishti's heart. It will be a happy ending all around, at least I hope so.

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sashashyam

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Posted: 12 years ago

#186

Dear Ashi,

You are quite right as far as my infelicitous comparison between Onir and Pari goes, and so please consider that withdrawn. I never have the slightest hesitation in acknowledging any mistake of mine!

But the second part of the para, about the comparison between Pari and Ovi's poor dead baby, stays, and I stand by that 100%.

As for the part @red in your post, I do not agree at all with your assessment, if indeed that is your considered assessment, and not either wishful thinking, or another expression of your acute dislike for Onir because he stands in the path of the much anticipated reunion of the amar premis Arjun and Purvi.

If you give the matter some thought, you will understand what it means for a man to be cut off from something that is not just a profession for him, but a passion. I know, for I have seen it happen to close friends. I have set out my views on this and what the future might hold for Onir in my post to Janhvi above; if you have the time and the inclination, please take a look at it.

As for Onir losing his medical licence for the baby swap, an excellent and most informative post by nandininaidu on the thread It's a Big Blunder (reproduced below), is worth a read. Of course the PR CVs are probably not even aware of the existence of the Medical Council of India.

And as for breaking the law, here we have Soham, who has committed umpteen kidnappings and extortions galore, who has got off with just one year in jail. Compared to that, all the atrocious procedural mistakes aside, what has happened to Onir because of his mahaan wife is much too harsh. At this rate.Sachin should have been disbarred for presenting those forged divorce papers.Instead, he is, thru mysterious ways, actually practicing in India with a Canadian law degree, which is strictly not allowed.

Someone was complaining yesterday about Manav's lack of solidarity with Ovi in allowing Sachin to be Onir's defence lawyer. I, on the contrary, think it was a clever and devious plot by Manav to ensure that Onir did not get off by any chance!😉

Why Onir's very capable wife, who was so clever earlier in organising bail for Arjun in that body in the boot case, and in getting her mother's divorce case handled as she wanted, did not lift a finger to help the man who had stood by her like a rock whatever the circumstances, or even to show overt solidarity by testifying on his behalf, since she was the prime mover in the case, remains a mystery.

Or perhaps not, for apni Purvi only takes from those who will do anything for her, she never gives them anything. Not even a comforting hug for a shattered husband.

Shyamala Aunty

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Its a Big Blunder

https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/pavitra-rishta/3544369/its-a-big-blunder

Posted: 19 April 2013 at 2:19pm | IP Logged

Dear Nandini,

Thanks for sharing all this detailed and interesting info with us.

As for the court proceedings, they were par for the course in a Balaji serial. If you remember the chawl demolition case in PR part 1, or the case against the heroine in Ekta's BALH, today's goings on would come as no surprise. I dare say the PR CVs are not even aware that the MCI exists. I have written repeatedly that Mittal has no locus standi to file a case against Onir, as only those affected, in this case Ovi and/or Arjun, can do it, but I knew that it would turn out to be exactly like this.

Plus, when any case in India takes years to be settled this one was cleared in a day?

Those in this forum who had their knives out for Onir and wanted him to go to jail must be a tad disappointed, though for him this ban must be almost like dying, and far worse than a prison sentence.

Shyamala B.Cowsik

Originally posted by nandininandu

Court cancelling Onir's medical license is a blunder. Here neither of the parties involved in the issue have moved the court nor given their statement but still court gave the verdict based on a single evidence. But In reality, court directs the respective state council of MCI to look into the issue; council calls for enquiry and hears the doctor's statement and other party in person, takes into account gravity of the crime, past history etc, based on which disciplinary action is taken; suspending the license for a certain period varying from couple of months to years is done by MCI but permanent cancellation is extremely rare in India and court calling for it without consulting MCI...!!

Originally posted by: Ashi22
Dear Shymala Aunty We r not bother about Onir because firstly he is an adult and secondly and more important Onir himself does not mind at all what is happening with him infact he is very happy that he is doing jeeevan sathi's Duty by breaking the Law.So no sympathy for Ex- Doctor from me atleast, On the other side Pari is just baby and cant do anything by herself and she nneds a mother, Arjun has no mother or even sister to give advice about child care obviousely he will look and ask Purvi and Ovi, But I hope soon he realise that both dont want Pari for different reason so he has to hire a proper nanny,

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soapwatcher1

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Posted: 12 years ago

#187

Dear Shyamala, different people react differently even in the same situation. Varsha and Purvi are not the same person, Varsha took her sister's child for her own happiness, Purvi gave away her child for her sister's happiness, marked contrast between the two.

Coming to why Varsha begged and pleaded with the judge, it was not Varsha's fault that Soham was behind bars (barring the initial kidnapping which put him amidst goons) so she was not weighed down by guilt and could make all the noise she wanted.

No, it honestly did not seem amiss that Purvi sat silently in court. She is the reason Onir is behind bars, she knows this, she is tongue-tied with guilt and helplessness, it is a feeling of doom, a sinking feeling, knowing nothing she can say or not say will make a difference to the court. If she were not directly involved, yes, her brain cells would have been spinning and she might have come up with something whether it helped the situation or not. But to blame her for not pleading with the judge and making a scene in court is kind of below the belt. It is almost saying she did nothing so Onir could remain behind bars and even you with the aversion you have professed for Purvi know that is not true. Nothing can be served by keeping Onir in jail unless you are going to join the bandwagon and say she wants him out of the way so she can be free to pursue illicit relations with Arjun. That is a far cry from the truth.

Purvi cannot be faulted for not behaving like Varsha. Purvi has also always managed to keep a lid on her emotions be it in the Arjun situation or the myriad instances when Ovi was accusing her, she has never opened her mouth to defend herself or make a case for herself. She cares for Onir, I will not say too much, for nothing can be too much in this instance, and she is quiet because she is at fault and at the root of his troubles, she has sense enough to realize there is nothing immediate that can be done to release him, the evidence is damning. She behaved exactly like how she would have behaved if she was on the stand herself and that is saying it all.

I do agree with you that if Onir doubts himself for the part he played in the baby switch fiasco, he will break down further, he needs to have his motives validated for him to go on and for that he will believe (right or wrong) that he was correct in following Mishti's wishes to donate the baby.

And please do not move forward in Ovi fashion, that may end up sideways and backwards and back to starting point ie if we dare estimate a guess on the upcoming track judging by Damodar and Manav's talk.

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strega

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Posted: 12 years ago

#188

Janhvi and Shyamala,

Balaji should figure out that the shows that appear to be doing better than PR have strong female leads like Zoya of QH and Sandhya of DABH. The eternal optimist in me continues to hope that they finally show the old feisty Purvi instead of this weepy one. And that she plots and gets the good doc's license reinstated. Go and do some more bhalaai but this time it might work out for you too.

Strega

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pallavi25

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Posted: 12 years ago

#189

Originally posted by: sashashyam
Dear Pallavi,

What a beautiful name you have! At least, I presume it is your name.

Well, I am not going to be getting my blood pressure up (thankfully it is always on the low side!) about Purvi and PR, in that order, for as long as I can manage it, but here is one last reaction.

If 3/4 of the forum are criticising Purvi, I am glad. It should be 90% as in the good old days, only in the opposite direction, after what she has done to Onir now, without fighting for him the least bit. I notice that while you are ready to criticise her for not being willing to take her baby back, you have not commented on the part of my post that dealt with the above.

Nor has anyone else, for that matter. Is it that what happens to Onir, which is deadly serious and as bad as death for him, does not matter because he is not Pari, the offspring of the amar premis? Now it is had been Ovi's baby in the same plight, I am sure no one would have bothered about her. or him.

Why can Arjun not get a good nanny for her? What if he had had a normal marriage and his wife had actually died, as might very well happen? Would he go out into the street, cuddling Pari and looking for a substitute? It is beyond ridiculous, the way they show it.

As for the post that Purvi should be hanged,to my mind it is obnoxious, and should be banned. It is also evident where the poster learnt to do such things, which, by the way, are apparently perfe ctly permissible under the rules, as we have been updated about them. It would, according to the MoDs, only be a problem if the poster saId that she should be hanged with piano wire, as Hitler had done with all the army officers implicated in the death plots against him, to maximise the pain in both intensity and duration.

As for PureVi, I was once warned for using the term Arviphiles. All this is no worse than Onir being struck off the medical rolls without the Medical Council of India conducting an inquiry, but then the CVs probably do not know there is an MCI.

As for the actuality and then the credibililty of the reform process, Ovi at least did not receive Archana's precious sanskaars, was brought up by Savita, and grew up spoilt. Yet she has changed greatly for the better in recent times, as set out so well in a recent post by Kools, and here by Tiyali. Still, she gets no acknowledgement or appreciation for that.

All the talk of Soham now being reformed is just fine, but it is only because the cliche, A leopard can never change its spots, which even Janhvi, to my dismay, recently indulged in wrt Ovi, is not applied to Soham, And how do you know this is not because he is a goodlooking boy and this forum in full of young women? It may not be so for you, but that does not mean it is so across the forum. I am convinced that If Arjun had looked like Jignesh, there would have been zilch interest in ArVi, I would bet you anything on that!😉 Or in Soham, if he had looked like Jignesh!!😉

Why is it that all the legions apostrophising Onir as evil and a fraud - the more sincere, loving and supportive he is of Purvi the worse these accusations get - have nothing to say about Soham's real crimes? When is he going to jail for them? Not this token one year, but a long stiff sentence for a crime as serious as kidnapping and extortion? Never.

Well, that is about it for the foreseeable future. I suppose there is no further damage that Purvi can do to Onir, and I hope he at least now has the good sense to stop bothering about her and start thinking about himself. The woman brings bad luck to whoever gets involved with her - Arjun then and Onir now - and no, I do not care a damn that she is adopted. She is bad news, that is all, and she cannot be given a pass on her misdeeds just because she was adopted.

Bye.

Shyamala

Dear Shyamala,

Thank you very much! 😃

I do have HBP myself, thats why I try to look at PR objectively and with loads of cynicism so my BP doesnt go up! Most of the time I laugh at all the melodrama going on. My son (who doesnt know Hindi) once called it Pavitra Pasta and I have also started calling it Pavitra Pasta...like long strands of pasta, its storyline is tangled and convoluted! 😆

Im glad that your BP is normal and so it should be, notwithstanding your ire at whats going on in PR. Its just a show and we should not get upset abt whats going on. The CVs and Ekta just LOVE to make us viewers jump through hoops by throwing us curveballs and unbearable twists! The angrier we get, the more we discuss and dissect the show, the better for their business! 😆

Purvi's rejection of her little baby is nothing new in Ektaland. Purvi is as confused and unmaternal as most of other Ekta heroines. Ive watched a lot of Ekta shows so I know this. Most of her heroines have a tendency to abandon their babies or children and go around poking their noses where it doesnt belong, trying to act God and run other people's lives when their own are horribly messed up!

Ekta heroines are also usually confused and torn between two men...one the love of her life, the other guy her true friend and companion...same formula used here!

Purvi is no saint although she acts all saintly. She is to blame for half of the problems in PR but then so is Ovi. My question is why spare Ovi and put all the blame on Purvi? When she gave up Arjun for the happiness of Archana, whose divorce was almost finalized...she did make a great sacrifice. Of course she did not need to force Arjun to marry Ovi, just asking him to go back to Ovi would have been sufficient. But she had to act God and make sure Ovi Arjun were tied in matrimonial knot so he cannot escape! 😆

Ovi entered the deal knowing fully well that Arjun belongs to Purvi in every sense...so how did she expect to push Purvi out of his heart and mind?

Why are Ovi, Manav, Deshmukhs etc blaming Purvi for destroying Arjun-Ovi marriage?

As for Purvi and Onir, Im sure she will stick to Onir now that hes fallen from grace! In court, she could have testified that he had done her bidding only but that wouldnt have saved him from being convicted for the completely unethical thing he did, no matter at whose bidding! Usually wife cannot testify in her husband's favor. Have you watched "Daag"? Rajesh Khanna is convicted of Prem Chopra's murder even though he had done so to save his wife's izzat. Sharmila couldnt testify in his favor because a wife's testimony is supposed to be favoring only the husband even if he is guilty! Thats a factor and also that what he did could not be condoned by law at all! He was bound to lose his licence and he shd have thought abt that when his Mishti made that outrageous request.

You see, everyone in the world has to pay for his/her own actions sooner or later, Onir is doing the same. I dont sympathize with him for losing his licence. He deserved that, but if Mittal implicates him on the organ trafficking too, then that would be terrible! I hope he and Sachin and Arjun would prove Mittal was the real culprit! Didnt they have the evidence against Mittal already?

Instead of cursing Purvi and wishing her dead, I wish all of us would wish death upon Mittal and Punni! They are the real villains here! They are indirectly and directly responsible for the baby truth being revealed to Ovi and rest of the world! I really hope Mittal goes to jail soon! And I wish Punni loses all the wealth and riches she had acquired through nefarious means and is thrown out on the streets!

Purvi will support Onir in his hour of need, she will help him get back on his feet. I have no doubt abt that! Unless Onir goes off somewhere by himself, but do u think he will abandon Mishti?

I like Onir as a person but not as a blindly supportive, slavish husband! Its time he asserted himself and took back his life into his own hands! He is impossibly noble and I feel sorry for his poor patients back in Kolkata since he used to treat them for free!

Arjun running around with the baby, begging the two reluctant mothers is completely ridiculous ! So is the nanny he hired who was sleeping on the sofa, Mrs. Braganza! 😆 But thats how it is in Ektaland. They have no idea abt babies, nannies etc since Ekta and her writers are not married, dont have kids and are overworked (writers)

I dont care abt the amar premis, as I have said before, Im not a diehard ArVi fan andIm not a teenager either😆, even my daughter is not a teenager anymore...

Pari is more important for me because shes a baby, a helpless little one! Onir is an adult, able to deal with adversities and also responsible for his own actions.

Pari is not responsible for the actions of her deadbeat mother, her unstable step mother or her irresponsible father! But shes the one suffering here, without proper family or nurturing!

Actually I liked Onir-Purvi jodi a few months ago when they were waiting for the birth of the baby. But now Im pissed off at both of them! What they did was wrong, the way they handled it was wrong! Why did Purvi have to discusss Pari in that restaurant with Arjun?

And how the hell could Ovi overhear their conversation in a bustling restaurant while standing so far away? THAT IS THE MILLION DOLLAR QUESTION! Which nobody has asked so far! 😆

Anyway, even if Ovi had not overheard them, Punni-Mittal would have exposed the truth the next day so they should be punished ASAP!

As for Soham, I am not enamoured of him, but I like him because he has served his sentence for his crimes and now hes truly reformed and trying so hard to belong to a family that had rejected him! He did serve a jail sentence for his earlier crimes, and shooting Archu was an accident as we all know. Whats nice is now he is acting as a loving, protective elder brother and I really like that!

Wasn't Soham acquitted of the previous charges of kidnapping and extortion? I dont remember (getting old) so please refresh my memory! Was he convicted of shooting Arjun? I think he was...

I still believe Ovi has not really changed! She was willing to be happy when she thought Arjun and Pari were HERS! Now that she knows neither are HERS, she threw them out with the dishwater! Shes still the selfish, stubborn brat ! I dont blame her for rejecting them, any woman would reject the child of her husband and his ex-lover. But I never liked Ovi for her selfishness and her inability to think about anyone else but herself!

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Posted: 12 years ago

#190

Originally posted by: archis_2013
Tiyali, Sorry to butt in as well but you brought in some good questions in your post that I wanted to respond to. You cannot call Ovi fully reformed because she acts kind and benevolent when she feels has everything in life .I am on the fence about that. I think Ovi is an insecure person by nature owing to her childhood, missing her parents etc.She, too wants to feel loved and cared for by her husband and mother both of whom have done it in a half-assed manner. Arjun has NEVER tried to move past Purvi and Archana has always favored Purvi. So, thats when she feels insecure and acts out. But the times when she feels secure and cared for, she has been true to herself- nice, steadfast, practical woman. (Ofcourse, she'll fall short when we compare her to Purvi.. so we wont get into THAT😉) And when she clearly knows that she has made repeated mistakes but Arjun and Onir have been patient in spite of her tantrums and helped her get what she wanted.I think ONIR has been kind and patient like a brother. Arjun never gave two hoots and STILL doesnt. There is a difference between being Patient and turning a blind eye. After he came back to her, asking HER for a second chance, he has turned a blind eye towards her. I know, he has cared for her, but in ALL those conversations, it was about 'take care of yourself FOR your BABY'. I dont know about others, but that'd piss me off. If she does not sound grateful then, she is not even human. She is seem thankful that in spite of everything that happened during her pregnancy, she could still have pari. And I would give it to her that she acknowledged this. I would not have been so sure about the pre-onir Ovi.

But all this trusting self is only the exterior and she gets back to her old insecure ways at the drop of the hat. When every single glance of Arjun and Purvi and every little conversation between them makes her think the worst, react violently and most often, Purvi bears the burnt. She even suspected Arjun and Purvi of meeting secretly in Kolkatta when she met Purvi in the doctor's house? So she reformed fully within a month or two?I can agree that Ovi is insecure. She did mistrust Arjun. But did he truly give her a reason to believe otherwise? Action speak louder than words. What was she supposed to think, when she found her husband, deep in reverie about his ex and then in Kolkatta TOGETHER? I think there are two yardsticks for Purvi and Ovi. One where we all pretend, this story is a normal situation and its okay for men to marry siblings and then other when we cant get past the amar prem and we feel the need to justify Arjun-Purvi ( speically the latter). To me, I cant forget that this is a story of a woman is married to a man who is infactuated with her sister. With that itself any psychologist will have a field day.. add these two secretly meeting and discussing sahi waqts, and being caught lying about phone calls; its enough to make anyone suspicious. I dont deny that Purvi gets trashed,but If I remember correctly, didnt Onir also slap Arjun when he found out he was the father of the baby? My point is that, no one accuses the spouse right away. Thats the age old unity in marriage. Ofcourse Onir figured out the their kaands and adjusted, but not everyone is like that.

Even recently, she was roasting for a day when she knew Arjun hid the truth about Purvi's call and she had to get an explanation from him when he was in the office? What happened during the day when she confronted him in the morning about the call and told him camly that she did trust him because he had kept away from Purvi after they were married? So, if this trust, why is fluctuating so much? I didnt watch that part.. so I am sorry, I dont know. My guess would be that she saw another call from Purvi or caught Arjun in another white lie.

Oh come on, we live in an age where people go through failed relationships before they are married to each other. You may have to talk and interact with your ex many times due to circumstances. Are they expected to 'come clean' every time by justifying every look, every talk to their spouses? Then why are we even discussing about trust. Why should your partner trust you, a lie-detector would help to prove the point. No I dont expect that. But we are forgetting this ISNT a normal story where the exes have moved on.No sir. These two have a BABY together, that the mother hasnt told anyone much less the wife. Then she proceeds to swap babies and make her husband commit a crime and convinces her ex to lie to his present wife until the Ajmeri Baba approved Sahi Waqt comes along. Also, its not as if Arjun is a straight laced man saying " oh! I chatted with Purvi" when asked. HOW MANY times has he lied to her about conversing with Purvi. From Ovi's side, from the deal, to the questions, its upfront. She doesnt LIE. Can we say the same about Arjun? If you want trust, then you must LEARN to be truthful. Arjun failed at that. He NEVER told Ovi about their dead child the minute he found out. He lied because PURVI asked him to. Who is SHE to dictate terms in their marriage? If is going to listen to his ex on how to run his marriage... he better be ready for a lie-detector test. I thin people feel that because Ovi married a man who loved another, she doesnt get any rights a wife would or should. What happened to treating your wife as one? We want to justify all the talks between Arjun-Purvi but these two havent given a chance or earned the right to go scott free. When the chance came for Arjun to truly prove that he was over Purvi was to tell his wifr about the dead child, and also hold Purvi responsible for never telling him about the swap and robbng HIS RIGHT as a FATHER to see his baby, HE FAILED. If I found out my ex swapped my dead child, I would be PISSED. Why isnt arjun upset? He continued lie on Purvi's behalf, went and HUGGED his Pari, without a thought for a dead child. If thats the attitude he has, why should there be any trust between them? Has this man earned that trust? I dont get it. Arjun can support his ex, plan with his ex, meet in hotels, lie on her behalf, maintain that connection and NEVER move a platonic bond, yet, we want the wife to trust him.

When Ovi learnt the truth about Pari based on what she overheard in the restaurant, it is natural for her to break down completely. But when we are talking about trust, why would you not confront your husband and ask him what happened? Why not give the guy a chance to hear from him if you had trusted him till a day before?She did give him a chance. He should have told her as soon as he found out so they could mourn toegther. Yet, she gave him a chance to explain. instead he gave her a gift. 😕 What is Ovi supposed to think. She knows Arjun is aware of their child's death. Yet, he made plans for sahi waqts and mahurats with his ex in an hotel, as opposed to grieving with her. She remembered how he suddenly hugged Pari as if she was Goddess Lakshmi herself. I was surprised when people questioned how could Arjun ask that question in the party.

And for everyone hiding things from her, she is seen by one and all on not being strong enough to face the facts that displeases here. She reacts violently and have shown tendency to harm herself. She has shown maturity of late but that is because she is in a positive state of mind. Her family has under-estimated Ovi-of-today's resilience to face the truth but in the past, she has always been handled with kids-gloves for the same reason.

Ovi is justified in her anger about the baby switch and that she wasn't told the truth. She is justified in her decision not to have Pari in her life as it reminds her of the bad past, including her part to play in that. Yes, Onir did break her trust in hiding the truth from her but he did not break her trust that he wanted only her well-being at heart. She was wronged for the fact that she does not lot of choices in her life now, as I see it. But neither do Arjun, Purvi or Onir and all four have their share (some more, some less) in bringing this sorry state of affair on themselves.