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Posted: 12 years ago
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Kool, our weddings are a bit different, as the actual wedding takes place in the evening and night depending on the auspicious time. The haldi ceremony happens right after water is offered to the ancestors, in the morning. During the ceremony, the bride generally wears a yellow saree and gets the traditional bath from the kalash (performed by 5 or 7 married women). I have seen girl's dressed up in an all yellow marigold flower saaj (from head to toe, right before the haldi ceremony for this). The flower saaj comes from the groom side. I don't know if the yellow saree was suppose to come from mama, but I know, girls can be given away (Kanyadaan) by mamas, since mamas are considered the first relative (kutum).

In the evening the bride actually wears the red/maroon traditional benarasi saree for the actual wedding. The red color is most commonly preferred for bride. In ancient times, the girl didn't wear the blouse as we have it now. The groom is given to wear a dhoti (that is made of silk, but much smaller in length). To cover the upper portion of the body, a shawl made of the same material is given. Both come from the bride side for marriage. Traditional the groom only wears these 2 clothing – nowadays, of course, groom will just put these on over undergarments. So, both the attires of the bride and the groom actually come from the father (Janhvi). I know for instance in NI, the groom don't change into anything for the actual ceremony. Interesting, the sindoor and the first saree (called lajja bastra – to cover up the head (shy)) come from the groom.

Lot of these traditions is not only followed in upanayan, but in our rice ceremony after 6 months. My son went through a mini- marriage, with tattya, offering ancestors food and water, haldi and the traditional bath. He then was given the first rice by his mama.

Now, truthfully, I think it is up to the people to really follow or venerate what they really feel that is close to their heart and belief. Most ppl still feels (especially girl's father) it is a form of duty that they have to perform in their life. I know my dad felt that way too, that being a girl's father; it is something that God bestowed him with, a duty that he needs perform. Of course, marriage can even happen without someone doing the daan, but isn't then the priest who performs that duty?

Coming to PR land, both Purvi and Archana, must have thought highly of this daan highly too, otherwise they couldn't have gone on demanding it of Manav, at the expense of pushing Ovi over the edge. Archana could have performed it for Purvi too. In that context (since it was shown to be of the highest importance) then obviously not following the ritual rightly by the girl who wanted it so much, makes it not only a mockery, but a disgraceful act. My opinion of course.

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Posted: 12 years ago
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I really don't think purvi is married to onir, she kept everything as secret to all D and K families.

onir first proposed purvi for marriage but purvi didn't agree...then we don't know what happened, may be that orphanage people started hating purvi for not married and getting preggo, then as a good person onir must have hold purvi's hand and saved her from society...

while onir and purvi convo he asked purvi did she tell truth to everyone, then purvi said noone knows it...

and everyone loves adores purvi in D's family except ovi, but noone gave her a big aarti when she entered back D's home with sindoor and big tummy...and noone performed any specials or party for purvi and onir...so this clearly tells that onir and purvi are not married...

if purvi-onir are really married then archu would have performed marriage again so that she could enjoy it and be so proud of her girl and perform all wedding rituals to purvi...

i know purvi and archu emotionally blackmailed D's about kanyadaan, but truly speaking they did all that just to hurt ovi otherwise they don't care about kanyadaan at all...

purvi didn't give chance to ovi to have kanyadaan...so if we consider onir and purvi wedding not valid because of no kanyadaan...then ovi arjun wedding is also not valid...

according to my traditions wedding is done if guy puts mangalsutra and sindoor...

Edited by m_masti - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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I m hindu n nt much aware f thz kanyadaan thing bt i just want to ask a ques... As many f u r sayng tht kanyadaan z fr virgin gals nly... So i just want to ask... Is thz rule nly for gals or z it applicable for boys also??
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Posted: 12 years ago
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mishti in those days guys were virgins too . But i guess it was only for girls , guys married again after wife's death etc . There is no Putradaan vidhi , only kanyadan and kanya means virgin girl . Nowadays its followed only ritualistically .
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Posted: 12 years ago
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if she was not married why was she sleeping in same bed with Onir i Kokata😲
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Kalapi, ours as well, the girl is married in a yellow or white (cream) sari given by the parents. She does the gauri puja before, 5 married women help her with it. When the groom ties the mangalsutra and puts the sindoor, her shoulders are covered by the sari gifted from the groom's side. The groom is in a silk dhoti with a silk shawl of the same material covering his upper body, we call it angavastra. I guess the basic rituals are the same all over India with minor variations.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000

if she was not married why was she sleeping in same bed with Onir i Kokata😲

well maybe she has brotherly feelings for Onir ..the sindoor and all the rest is all meant for Arjun . She is still crying for Arjun .
At that time she was very sleepy so maybe she thought , " no problem I will sleep next to Onir bhaijaan " ...
Kool, now I expect anything from Ekta kapoor .There is no logic or any sense whatsoever anymore .What's going on in Purvi's head , not even the best psychologist can figure out ...it changes from scene to the next scene ...
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000

if she was not married why was she sleeping in same bed with Onir i Kokata😲


but after coming to mumbai onir was sleeping on the floor...thats the reason why i am thinking they are not married...
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: mishti31

I m hindu n nt much aware f thz kanyadaan thing bt i just want to ask a ques... As many f u r sayng tht kanyadaan z fr virgin gals nly... So i just want to ask... Is thz rule nly for gals or z it applicable for boys also??

It used to be that way too...Boys used to be Virgin too but that has gone out the window for the longest tiem...There diff rules for girls and boys...
You asked something that came to my mind the day the topic was opened. Forgot abt mentioning it in my other post...I agree with you..
BTW Masti I think Purvi_Onir has to be married or else why would he say "We as a parents never thought or talked abt what our kid will be when he-she grows up" he looked at Purvi and said OUR Child...WHy would he? if they were not married..Why would she wear SIndoor and the bengals which Bengalis would wear after marriage? Unless it is another lie...Purvi would lie abt anything but why would Onir lie? 😕
Edited by Dabulls23 - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000

mishti in those days guys were virgins too . But i guess it was only for girls , guys married again after wife's death etc . There is no Putradaan vidhi , only kanyadan and kanya means virgin girl . Nowadays its followed only ritualistically .

No there is no putradaan, and Kanyadaan was thought to be more important and relevant for they bring progeny to the family they went. Son never went and lived with the girl's family, but girl's did go to live with the boy's family. So, that made it a daan.
If a boy is given to someone, the purpose is different. He was given more for manual labour or working in the fields. Thus a girl's contribution was more to the society than a Boy's could ever be. So, giving a virgin away is more significant that a boys - the purpose isn't same here - the 'daan' here is of a less value, if you may. Girls in Hinduism always had a unique place (although hard to appreciate it now) and were considered Laxshmi, or who brings good fortune. The Guy who marries the girl is considered to be Vishnu. Besides, girl's did command a lot of respect in the families they lived, which is difficult to explain, unless one appreciate it at close quaters..
Edited by Kalapi - 12 years ago

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