PR Today: Purvi or Archana lite? - Page 5

My dear Jyothi,

It is proof positive of what a good analyst and commentator you are that you can wring so much even out a dry sponge!

You are so correct in everything you have said, and I too hope (though I do not believe in it) that Purvi somehow finds it in her not to bolt, any which way, and leave poor Arjun dangling. The problem, however, is in what I have detailed in my responses above to Janhvi, and to Laurie after her typically sassy take on what Purvi should do. I really cannot see how Purvi can square this circle. Or where all this is going to leave Arjun.

I have written a good bit already, both on this thread and earlier, about Arjun being in a mess whether he marries Purvi or not, for he will NEVER come first for her, and not even second. That is why I wrote that bit about the house with a triple mortgage - Archana, Manav, and now Soham dada. I will not add to all that now, but it is absolutely true, and it will never change. Arjun will simply have to get used to it. And that will also change Arjun-Purvi, even under the best possible circumstances, somewhat for the worse. I can already see that happening.

Don't fret so much about all this, it is not worth it. Maybe the CVs will pull some impossible solution out of the box and all will be sweetness and light, but that will be only a week or less before they decide to shut up shop, and I do not think we are anywhere near that much-awaited moment as yet.

Finally, your take on the Arjun in the car scene yesterday is spot on. He was very refreshing, and if they do stay together, I hope this lasts!

Shyamala

Originally posted by: jdronamraju

Shyamala,
Looks like I am late to the thread today !! All have been said that needs to be said and discussed. But, still, i will give my take on this anyway..

As always, a great analysis from you, Shyamala. But, for once, I fervently and sincerely hope, that your prediction of doom is wrong, and am sure, you would like that to happen too, however a remote chance.

For once, Ms.Ovi did not let me down. I had no false illusions that she would turn a leaf, and did exactly what I had expected of her. At least she is consistent if nothing. For all those who had criticized, commented and berated us for calling Ovi a delusional, crazy chic who needs psyc evaluatoin, I just have one thing to say.. Here you go, this is the real Ovi Deshmukh, as crazy, conniving, delusional as you can get.

I actually liked the car scene, not for the silliness of Purvi being upset with a neighbor's comments, but for seeing Arjun, the way he is, and always been. A lively, loving, confident, dont care attitude guy, who doesnt care two cents for what others think, and does what he wants to do. Ms. Purvi has a lot to learn from him, well, ofcourse, if she is around..

I am amazed at how low the intelligence of Purvi has fallen that she takes Ovi's words at face value, even after she mentioned "Ovi's Arjun"..Didnt she recall that the same person tried to bribe her for Arjun. How can she believe that Ovi is all ready to embrace her mother after all that she has said and done. Archana had herself told her the state she lives in at the D house. And why did it not occur to doubt what she is being told? Can she not see a emotional blackmail when she sees one? has her brain gone down the drain? You are so right, Ovi played Purvi exactly the way she wanted and got exactly the reaction that she wanted too. I am not going to go into all the details as it has all been covered so well by you already.

The pre-cap obviously is not a reality, more a figment of our dear Purvi's fertile imagination. Seeing the expression on her face, made me want to smack her to wake her up, so she can smell the roses, as they say.

Anyway, yes, she is caught in a dilemma, between her blind devotion to see her mother's happiness, and the love of her life on the other. I will excuse her wavering, provided, I see
her give thought to Arjun also in the process. I expect her to show it to Ms. Ovi, by standing by her man, and marrying him.

In all this, my heart, as always, goes out to Arjun. For if she does this stupid sacrifice, he will be the ultimate fool, for loving this chit of a girl, for whom, he is so low on her priorities, that she has not given even a thought to him before deciding to do so. Shyamala, has always been right. She has never loved him like he does to her. She was always the loved one. She will never have the same intensity, fervor that he has in him for her. But, she has also unwaveringly promised him
to never leave him. I hope she remembers all this, while she remembers her Aai, in the next 48 hrs of Ms.Ovi's deadline.

Inspite of all that I know may have a strong possibility of happening, the foolish romantic that I am, I still have a glimmer of hope that Purvi will not let Arjun down. It is probably a wishful thinking on my part, But, I think that during this process, if we have the bridge scene from the SBB segment, where Arjun talks about his mother, I am sure there is a strong emotional factor there that should pull Purvi back to the fold. Unlike some, I do not want anyone to influence her decision to stick by Arjun, it has to be hers and hers alone. I do not want to see Arjun, Archana convince her.. for gods sake.. why do we want that??? She needs to do it for Arjun, all by herself.. That is probably a tall order, but that is what I want.. No harm in asking for the ultimate, is there..

If not, then God save Arjun !! For, it is all down hill for him from here..

If Arjun even gets a wiff of Purvi's thoughts of giving him up for her Aai, that is enough to break his heart and put a mar on their relationship. If what Arjun has done for Purvi so far, is not enough to hold her to him, then what else will be? Any other reunion after this, is never going to be the same. For me, at least, it will always be a patched up relationship. Where is the guarantee for him, that in case of another issue like this, Purvi wont leave him again. Knowing the D-Family, it is bound to happen !! There is her long lost Soham dada already in line..

I have always loved Arjun Purvi , for, I believed that their relationship and love is unique, different and strong and not the mill of the grind. If they separate now, then that is what it becomes. I do not have any interest or inclination in seeing it go down the drain that way. For, it defies everything that I have always believed of them. It will then be time for me to say, Adios, PR..

Why should i subject myself to this emotional roller coaster, day in and day out, for this kind of a couple if they are not what I believe of them? I might as well watch the wooden faces of Rab ne banaa di jodi, or the recent embryo transplant in hitler didi, or even the ridiculous phir subah hogi, or maybe the much light hearted, SSLPK.( I only have Zee on tv, hence the choices )..It would not make a difference...

Jyothi and Shyamala,

Originally posted by: archverma10

Jyothi and Shyamala,

As the 3rd and lately somewhat habitual absent party of our 3 Musketeers Triage, I have to say--Im left with almost nothing to say!!! The 2 of you have pretty much said it all.

Jyothi, it is depressing and so the trend of the CVs continues...it looks like before we had a misunderstanding and character assasination of Arjun, where the vilification knew no limits, and now we have it with Miss Purvi. She will be kicked, beaten, and dragged around this forum for her ridiculous action. I guess what we cannot forgive her for is her inability to realize how lucky she is that this sweet boy loves her so much, and that she takes it for granted to the extent of being able to throw it away. To be loved like that is a great thing-----and puts her in such a rare and unusual minority that her ability to just throw it away to save a marriage that is already dead anyway is truly sickening.

That being said though, I want to play Devil's Advocate here (for lack of any other reason than to have something to say). I am opening a separate topic on this after a long time...i hope you all visit it and comment accordingly.

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Shyamala,
LOL I am kicking myself for not watching the precap from yday's episode. It was too obvious that it was a imaginary scene !!
I started laughing the moment that scene started ...😆

Originally posted by: sashashyam

Dear bee,

Let me start with the nice part. Of course I am watching the DID Superkids religiously. They have saved me from the withdrawal symptoms I was fearing would set in after the Grand Finale on Aug 12 (here in Pune too) which was most enjoyable, despite all the corny and repetitive jokes and the over grand ensemble dances where the L'il Masters were dwarfed in size. The results were fine, for my Om came first runner up, and nothing could have been better for me, unless it was the sight of him and Akshay Kumar walking in tandem on their hands, or that of the ecstatic Prince, for once, falling to his knees and doing a proper namaskar out of sheer gratitude to the janata.

Reverting to the Superkids, when I look at most the DID LM Ist season kids, they resemble Ram Kapoor in that there is about 50% too much of them, especially Rituraj. And their skipper Mayuresh (?) looks like an ambulant wardrobe. I prefer the current crop by far, but it is all great fun.

Now for PR, my post, yesterday's episode, and your comments. The trouble is, bee, that I agree with you so much that it would be too much to itemise. But I will try all the same.

1a) I think it would have been forbidden for Arjun to watch the chudi ceremony, which is strictly a women's affair. I suppose he agreed on a time, after it was over, to pick her up for a drive, which is why she says that she was waiting for him, in one of her hardy old outfits. Maybe she had a premonition about the rain!.

1b) The chawl gossip tack was ridiculous, as you have stressed. I too thought the only plus point in the whole of that was your choice as well, the fairly sharp remark that Arjun makes to her about his being very happy but he does not know about her, ending with an exhortation Then smile!.

It would be tiresome for any man to be tied to such a doom and gloom girl, a watering pot in the making, exactly like her mother. She will never be happy, for there will always be something or the other concerning her blessed parivaar, and seeing that he is obsessed with her, she will never let him be happy either.

1c) That took the cake, the bloomer about the auto. I was laughing so much at it, and wanted to incude it in the very end as a titbit for laughs, but it slipped my mind, and in any case the post was already long enough! I suppose they wanted to keep Arjun away for the grand Ovi-Purvi scene, but it is inconceivable that Arjun would let her go home in an auto!

2. I have covered this in detail in the Archana-Purvi section in the post, but I loved your very apt comparison with that scene between Manasi and her mother in yesterday's LMYAM. But then LMYAM is about people who could very well be real, who talk as people do in real life, unlike the cardboard cutouts that seem to populate PR,mouthing sanskaari lines or shrieking at each other and slapping each other. Just see the scenes where Rajalakshmi Sisodia is chewing Sahil out, or ticking off poor blameless Anoop earlier for allegedly 'training' his brother all wrong! She is furious, but she never loses either control or her dignity.

3. Of course I am happy to get such a solid recruit to my 'precap is real' camp, but even if it is not, as I have explained above, it changes nothing as far as Purvi's options and her likely course of action are concerned.

Finally, as for the affidavit question, yes, it is Archana who first names Purvi, she being the usual suspect in these matters. As for Manav not regarding Purvi as his daughter, you are correct there. Moreover, he does not call her beti. What he calls her is beta, which is the generic term used for all young people of either gender by their elders, and it does not imply any relationship.

I agree that if she jettisons Arjun now, for reasons I need not elaborate, she would not deserve a love as deep and unselfish as his. But bee, what about him? The poor boy would have done nothing to deserve such a turn. I have already written too much in this strain, so I shall desist from pursuing it any further,

Shyamala

Dear Shyamala,
I think you have got to be one of the ardent admirers of these DID kids show!
BTW, last time when they had this DID Superstars show between DID season1 & 2 contestants, it wasn't that great, but this time the performances are really good, even better than what we saw in the DID l'il Masters Season2 show. And these DID LM S2 kids are way better than the S1 kids.

About the Chudi Ceremony, Arjun is not allowed is alright, but Purvi spent all her time getting ready without even picking his phone call up and finally when he comes to pick she has already changed. They don't even show that scene. What I meant was that the couple in the car scene and the phone conversation doesn't seem like the same people, emotionally. There was no connect.
I was already so pissed with the disconnected scene earlier that when I saw Purvi come back in an Auto, right after the getting drenched in rain ended, I was totally bugged at the choppy-ness of the scenes. How much of badly put-up episode should one take? Emotionally the characters are not connected, choppy editing, insufficient dialogues, some faltu scenes, how much more can one take?

Thanks for clarifying that it was Archana who suspects that it must have been Purvi who filed for the affidavit.

If Purvi sacrifices, I don't know what will happen to Arjun. More so after watching today's episode and the precap. It would just rip him apart. The way she keeps looking at Arjun today during their dance and then so clearly utters the words I LOVE U to him and then pouring her heart out and still going ahead with his sacrifice. After all the talks on the bridge (in the precap) ... it looks all very painful.

Dear bee,

As for the sloppy goings on in the technical dept., they are getting to be the limit.

@ red. It would be truly frightful for us, and totally destructive for Arjun. How can she do such a thing to him, without giving a single thought to what he will go thru? She takes him completely for granted.

Please see my post of today; you might like it.

Shyamala

Dear Shyamala,
I think you have got to be one of the ardent admirers of these DID kids show!
BTW, last time when they had this DID Superstars show between DID season1 & 2 contestants, it wasn't that great, but this time the performances are really good, even better than what we saw in the DID l'il Masters Season2 show. And these DID LM S2 kids are way better than the S1 kids.

About the Chudi Ceremony, Arjun is not allowed is alright, but Purvi spent all her time getting ready without even picking his phone call up and finally when he comes to pick she has already changed. They don't even show that scene. What I meant was that the couple in the car scene and the phone conversation doesn't seem like the same people, emotionally. There was no connect.

I was already so pissed with the disconnected scene earlier that when I saw Purvi come back in an Auto, right after the getting drenched in rain ended, I was totally bugged at the choppy-ness of the scenes. How much of badly put-up episode should one take? Emotionally the characters are not connected, choppy editing, insufficient dialogues, some faltu scenes, how much more can one take?

Thanks for clarifying that it was Archana who suspects that it must have been Purvi who filed for the affidavit.

If Purvi sacrifices, I don't know what will happen to Arjun. More so after watching today's episode and the precap. It would just rip him apart. The way she keeps looking at Arjun today during their dance and then so clearly utters the words I LOVE U to him and then pouring her heart out and still going ahead with his sacrifice. After all the talks on the bridge (in the precap) ... it looks all very painful.

Jyothi and Archana,

Our poor boy is going to get it right between the eyes. And this without a single thought from Purvi of what it will do to him. Well, serve him right for falling for such a girl, for whom he is the 4th priority, if that, and being so blind and deaf and dumb in his adoration of her that he can see nothing coming.

His plea in the precap today, Will you be there with me always? .. Promise? wrung my heart. What has he done to deserve this, or DK for that matter?

Anyway, take a look at my post of today; you might feel a bit better, for I have spoken my mind very frankly.

Shyamala

Originally posted by: jdronamraju

@bold: truly said, archana..She got it too easy, that is why even though she says it, Purvi does not realize Arjun's worth for what he is. The day, she loses it, is the day, she will know his value for what he is and what he meant. In a way, I do want this to happen so that Purvi knows what true love is. And the next time, she wants it back, I want to see her pursue Arjun and not the other way around, as is the case always.

For, the only thing that bother me in all this, is Arjun's heartbreak. For, he does NOT deserve this from any angle. To be treated like a commodity that can be set aside, by the same person, who he considers his life, is the ultimate betrayal anyone can do to him.

otherwise, I wouldn't care less, what Ms. Purvi does !!

I did add my bit to your post... chk it out..

Originally posted by: archverma10

Jyothi and Shyamala,

As the 3rd and lately somewhat habitual absent party of our 3 Musketeers Triage, I have to say--Im left with almost nothing to say!!! The 2 of you have pretty much said it all.

Jyothi, it is depressing and so the trend of the CVs continues...it looks like before we had a misunderstanding and character assasination of Arjun, where the vilification knew no limits, and now we have it with Miss Purvi. She will be kicked, beaten, and dragged around this forum for her ridiculous action. I guess what we cannot forgive her for is her inability to realize how lucky she is that this sweet boy loves her so much, and that she takes it for granted to the extent of being able to throw it away. To be loved like that is a great thing-----and puts her in such a rare and unusual minority that her ability to just throw it away to save a marriage that is already dead anyway is truly sickening.

That being said though, I want to play Devil's Advocate here (for lack of any other reason than to have something to say). I am opening a separate topic on this after a long time...i hope you all visit it and comment accordingly.

I