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Posted: 13 years ago
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Varsha dear
We have all different takes about the serial and it's characters.
I will never give out names about who is bashing who. My statement was a general statement. There is a lot of stress put on things that people believe in and nothing wrong with that

Members have their opinions and nothing wrong with that either. I have mine too. There are times when I want to raise them and bring it out as a conversation. The problem has become in the recent months is that the conversation gets dragged in a different direction and takes the fun out of it. I am not on the forum like I used to be at one time and it is really heart breaking to see so much anger and bashing amongst the members which was never before.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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wow...really nice posts...

I completely agree with you Kools

the main problem with Archu is her EGO, and that EGO is developed because of Sulo...sulo always made Archu feel 'she is always right in making decisions' and always made her more important in comparison with Varsh/Vinod/Vyshu...which lead archu EGO and archu always thinks she is very Maahaan and when Mahaan Archu cannot do something then no-one can do it...
yes it is Manav's goodness which is portrayed as humanity sake he does everything...and it is archana's complete fault before separation...before signing the custody papers she didn't even wanted to see her twins...and she tells she has so much love for sachhu, why didn't she wanted to see him she knows she might not get chance in the future to see the kids...
regarding money, yes i agree she has right on manav's money, but if it is using for her or not matters...
sanskari sulocahan never never any of her kids to enter into the home when they made mistakes but archu is always exceptional for everything...sulo made varsha/vyshu to go back to sasural but why not archu...
and it is manav's mistake too, he was behind K's as if he is an orphan...manav was always felt guilty eventhough he didn't do mistake...he never gave self-respect to himself even after getting so many slaps from sulo...so why should anyone give respect to a person who doesn't have any self-respect...
sanskari archu stopped savita's hand when she was about to slap sulo, but she didn't stop sulo's hand when she slapped manav...
and it is true god gave enough money to manav to support all the needs of K's...
in one of the last week episodes archana told 'what if, if i cannot return the money manav', when did archu returned money to manav for whatever she took for her maika...

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Posted: 13 years ago
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I still remember how Archana sold all her jewellery and convinced her sisters Vaishu and Varsha to do so just so that Vinod could buy a flat without taking monetary help from his mother in law Rasika .

What I infer from this is Archana thought that Vinod would lose his self respect if he accepted help from his mother in law .

But Manav has helped Sulochana his mother in law over and over again . I fail to understand why Manju has not asked Archana this question . Rasika was bad but good to her own daughter . There she was the one giving the money yet she was termed as evil and trying to ' buy' her damad .

Here Sulo has only taken the monetary help from Manav ...her damad . Lakhs of rupees.
Sa vita has not taken a single rupee from damad . Rather she was fleeced by damad . These are facts shown in the serial .

Does not Archana feel that Sulo loses self respect by constantly taking from damad ? The same rule that applies to Vinod applies to Sulo too . Does it not ? This clearly shows that Archana makes a distinction between damad of the house and son of the house . She thinks its demeaning to accept help from mother in law . She follows the old Hindu culture . Personally I feel she should have stayed out . This was Vinod's problem . He was a grown man . It was strictly between him , his wife and his mother in law who was loaning him the amount to buy a flat .

But Archana saw to it that he does not take financial help from his sasu ma . Then how she borrows constantly from Manav and helps her family . Some one should ask her this question .

One cannot be selectively traditional and selectively liberal [ damad is beta thingie]. One must choose one path .


Edited by koolsadhu1000 - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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I agree Kools I blame Manav the most in the whole mess for putting up with the crap due to not having self respect and respect for his own family...There is a fine line between supporting your wife and her family VS being a weakling and let them disrespect you anytime they like after the work is done or money is taken...Ungrateful and besharm is the word more likely for Sulochana than Laalchi or Greedy...Although those 2 words do apply because she wants rich damaads especially one for Archana..So she supported Purvi -Arjun relationship..She knew he was Kirloskar b4 the lame challenge put forth by Archana abt earning rs. 10000 and after...Arjun was not to live that fatichar mechanic life and living in chawl for ever..
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Nice posts Kool di and Varsha Di. 😊
Edited by umayal - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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i read some topic regarding Ovi-Archu...Ovi will say Archu 'I will treat you as aai, I will promise you to get everything back can you please give my Arjun back to me'

really want to see how Archu is going to face it...CV's are portraying every character as bad character to show archu is MMMAAAHHHAAANNN...

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000

Sulochana as a mother has great influence on Archana . Most of the time Archana listens to her . The times she does not are rare . So if it was a brainstorming session she should have been ultra careful especially keeping in mind the delicate state her daughter's marraige is right now . People were bugged with her advice because prior to this she had gone to invite the Deshmukhs for Purvi's engagement . Either she was a very stupid lady or a very mean lady to do it . It appeared as if she wanted to rub it in the face of the Deshmukhs . I honestly did not understand what ' farz ' she was talking about when her daughter was about to be divorced in two weeks . What farz remains when all relations are about to end ?


Archana did not listen to her during the engagement to Satish prior to the first divorce , when she ran away with Manav during the marraige to Jaywant Rane , when relations between her and Manav soured and he left for Canada with the twins . But she listened to her most of the time ...during the first divorce when she left Manav without giving him a chance to speak , when Sulo gave her ' kasam ' by hiding in an old age home knowing fully well the toll it will take on her married daughter's life , when Sulo kept quiet as Varsha and Vaishali insulted Manav ...the number of times she has listened to Sulo is much much more than the not listening part . I could go on and on . My point is that she controls Archana 's mind most of the time and this brainstorming discussion could have a disastrous effect I was very glad that Archana said no to her ..

What Sulo has not understood is Archu's heart . She secretly yearns for a marraige . Purvi understood it ...she noticed Archana's suffering even at the top of her euphoria but Sulo needed to be told when she knows Archana longer . She was happily planning Purvi's marraige . She was least bothered about Archana's happiness or what Archana was going through . She is only bothered about Purvi not about Punni , Ruchi , Ovi or teju who r her other grandkids . This leads one to think that in reality she is looking out only for herself . I won't be surprised if she lives comfortably off DK and Arjun's wealth via Purvi as Arjun is very much in love with Purvi . Sulo has been incredibly lucky where damads r concerned ...even the grand damad will dance on her tunes and provide her with a comfortable old age . Unlike Savita who has been grossly unlucky where damad was concerned and the grand damad broke off with her grand daughter very soon and left her heart broken .

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Kool Di ,

Well written post Di.
Exactly what I wish to say about Sulo. she has a tremendous control over archu, yet she didnt used it and payed way for Archu's happy life and as not guided archu properly is what My anger is, with that character's actions.

Well said about all.

@Underlined and Green : Just loved that observation on archu. Totally agree and True.
However archu might be with her Brains ,insensible her actions might be, end up foolishly at most times,
Her inner wish, thought, Her hearts Desire is to have a Happy life with Manav and her entire family. She wish to be with them all along. Thats what her tears, heart say. As you said she Yearns for a Marriage. though she said she is ok, contented with sulo & Purvi, that wasnt the statement from heart. and for none it would be true as everyone wants to be happy with their family.

Sulo being insensitive to archu's feelings and Happiness is well depicted through her actions only. archu as Done so much for her mother, she has always been with her mother, takes care of sulo and does all things and nods for most of the things sulo says. But as you said,
Sulo hast understood archu's heart till now.

My anger at Sulo's actions is more, Not because I love archu and sulo is not paying attention to archu's happiness, Its because that, archu might have gone wrong in playing other roles, she may be at mistake in playing a Wife, Mom, Bahu, Vahini ,Sister ,whatever other role it might be,
But she was the best Daughter to Have. She has fulfilled her farz as a Daughter more than it is needed, for such a Daughter, sulo hasnt helped for what that daughter's heart desire for ,
and that Left me in anger on Sulo.


even in last week's epi, it was Purvi I think, who talked about archu's feelings ,concern and what archu might be going through because of this marriage preparations.

The below statement,i just liked it more and amen to it.

What Sulo has not understood is Archu's heart . She secretly yearns for a marraige . Purvi understood it ...she noticed Archana's suffering even at the top of her euphoria but Sulo needed to be told when she knows Archana longer .


@Varsha Di :

Correctly Said about Sulo di. Thats what I too wish to say and said in My last post. Its the post actions Sulo shows after receiving or using the Money or Help.
It was not Laachi or greedy we talk about, its the ungratefulness, no Gratitude attitude of Sulo we talked about when Manav is concerned.


Even if archu ends up doing something tomorrow which doesnt go well with Sulo but goes well with archu's welfare and future, she wont support archu ...Sulo wont support the daughter who was all around her life stayed with her Mom but will make her hear words.


So gratefulness was not in Sulo's actions most of the time when ArMan are considered.


Edited by umayal - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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it is not just sulo's responsibility, it is Purvi's too...

if any misunderstandings happen between daughter and dammad in middle class family, the parents immediately go to daughter's sasural to solve the issue...

it is Sulo's responsibility to make things properly...
stupid sulo could go for inviting D's for Purvi's engagement, but she couldn't go to D' home when D's family was leaving to Canada and leaving Archu in India...
and even after knowing everything no mom(except Sulo) can see her daughter's life ruin...no mom(except sulo) could stop herself to speak the truth because of stupid kasam made by daughter...

even i feel Purvi is at fault too in this case, I always had a hope that Arjun-Purvi get together to make ArMan together, Arjun was very close to Manav and Purvi is very close to Archana and they could have done so much better, but they are in a hurry to get married...and what poor Archu-Sulo can do, even they might be thinking Arjun first got engaged to Ovi then now in love with Purvi, lets do the wedding before Arjun goes to other girl...and sulo might have thought if Arjun is given to Ovi she will not be able to get single penny, but Arjun gets married to Purvi then she can make Arjun Kirloskar to Karangkar...

In a middle class family, if a girl takes any help from any relative or stays at relative's place for her education/job needs, that girl feels like she can never pay back the help they did...for Purvi, Archana gave everything, and Manav gave the lastname, it is her duty towards ArMan relationship, if Purvi really gives the value to the Archu's so called suffering regarding getting seperated from kids, purvi should really work on it

Purvi and Sulo made ArMan life more horrible in these 6 months...they made more distance between Archu and Manav/Kids...

I am not sure what miracle Purvi will do at the end...but if CVs make the whole fault on Savita/Sachu and if Manav believes it and accepts Archu...and PR ends like that...then for sure I will not watch any of EKta's show in the future...


and one more point to be noticed on the main topic of this thread...Sulo said Ovi/Teju don't have need for money so give it to Purvi...but in these 18 years sulo never thought "Ovi/Teju needs Mom in their life its not just Purvi"

I couldn't understand the wedding demands, when Purvi was supposed to get married to Vinay all these demands never came and when vinay's mom wanted some she is portrayed as bad female, but when it is now Arjun-Purvi wedding, why all these issues are coming, they always say Purvi is simple girl, then why doesn't she understand financial needs of this wedding, all this drama is to get money from manav now, and Arjun will think Sulo-Archu are Mahhan/sansakari and he will put money rain on Sulo-Archu in the future
Edited by m_masti - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: Dabulls23

Why fund a large wedding..Weddings are mostly hosted by girls family in India I could be wrong as in US where I am we share complete wedding expenses so someone can correct me if I am wrong..But even here some of bride's parents want wedding to be hosted by them...They do it according to their financial condition...If Archana can do simple wedding as she can only afford that than be it...Let the Kirloskars throw a big party or reception if they want to...Archana can be very clear abt her affordability to DK...i am sure there won't be a problem..
My elder sister had a decent size wedding in a hall & 300 some guests...She got more clothes, jewelry and I got married in Arya Samaj hindu ceremony with less than 50 guests...2 sarees and small chain by my Mamaji...Nothing more...My husband and ILs did not ask or demand anything...Because they knew my mom could afford only that much..Again ILs wanted simple wedding too so it all worked out the best for all..Its good to have a open communications between the samdhis when discussing wedding and the scale..
Sulo or Archana apparently has not done that yet...Thank god Archana did not listen to Sulo and break the fds..Lets keep Ovi-Teju out of this as the topic is abt Sulochana..

Why can't a family have a large wedding? Perhaps you didn't want a large wedding but that doesn't mean another family or person her might actually want one. Whatever is good for you doesn't mean it has to be good for everyone else. That's your personal choice.
If the character in the show wanted one, and she suggested they use the FDs (it's not like Ovi and Tej needed the money or knew it was there), what was wrong? And why not bring in Ovi and Tej here? It's about their FDs. Sorry but I do not want to engage in a protraying this character in the way you and others have done here.
I am not against Archana's decision to keep the FD either. She didn't want to use the money at all - perhaps she had too much pride to use Manav's money. Soluchana accepted Archana's reasoning and left it at that. If she was greedy, she would have found another way to get at it. Sorry but I just find your arguement rather baseless.
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Posted: 13 years ago
How about Ovi/Teju give them a opening to even approach them. Then Purvi or Archana will able to do something about it.

Why should Purvi be the one to sacrifice her happiness for two people who hate her aai.

Communication is a two way street not one way.

So all of you are saying Savita can advice Manav and Sulo can not advice her own daughter.

In this marriage both of their mother's had the hand of ruining it with Arman letting their respective mother's do the dictating.

I will put Savita and Sulo in same category.

How ironic Savita got a good son but useless damad and Sulo has a useless son but good damad.

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