BADHAAI HO !! - Page 7

Janhvi,

If I had a daughter who, after a harrowing day and night in captivity surrounded by a bunch of ruffians, interprets what the gang leader says after the other guy slaps her (that as her father is going to cough up the ransom, there is no need to hit 3 crores; if Manav had not been ready to do so, he himself would have ordered her to be shot in the head) as his fighting with the other chap for her, and adds, as a clincher, that "humare apna sa lag raha tha" (he seemed like one of our own), I would say that she needs to have her head examined pronto.

This in not a film by my namesake M.Night Shyamalan for you to be talking of the sixth sense, it is PR. So just chalk it down as another crass piece of CVs' folly, and do not go about adding unwarranted entries to your ladli's bio.😉 Next you will be saying that she is also an akhandasowbhagyavati (the equivalent of the Bharat Ratna for heroines of TV soaps)!!

As for the Arjun-Purvi love or other scenes, I stand by my review that they are getting to be increasingly trite: what is it with Main ab tumhare bina ek pal bhi nahin rah sakta! One cannot be more pedestrian than that. It does not even have the virtue of the high romantic to rescue it, like the one about the dil jo dhadakna bandh kar dega. This is plain boring stuff; the CVs are getting lazy.

What is the use of having such an AAA pair if this is all they get to work on? I think that if the director would just let the pair ad lib their scenes, they would do much better; they are both bright, peppy young people. Not that this is going to happen, and now there are probably only a few unclouded moments between the two that could have been used to excellent effect, which makes the present mush an even greater pity.

And how many times are we to watch that Nandi scene? Nandi himself must be saying to himself: Kya, yeh log phir se aa gaye mere kaan bharne! (pun intended) (What, these people are here again to fill my ears ! Kaan bharna also means to incite someone against someone else, thru false gossip). It only shows a complete bankruptcy of imagination as far as the script writers are concerned.

So, for any hatke scenes, we shall soon be reduced to Vishnu, who will undoubtedly oblige. He was very good at the end of that mini-confrontation with his baba, when Balan glares at him and Vishnu looks back at him, half sheepish and a little afraid, yet half determined.

But what a fall that will be, my fellow gang members (apologies to Mark Antony) !

Shyamala

PS: Apologies for having missed out on the pundit; I must put it down to having had no chance to watch the half hour, even 19 hours late, in any kind of peace and quiet!

Originally posted by: soapwatcher1

Ah, my beautiful tirade against your ladla, Arch, is gone, vanished into thin air - drat this phone!

Arch/Jyothi/Abhi, my ladli needs only one sasuma not all the mausis turning against her as well! Actions speak louder than words and the girl has done enough, the jail scene, the tender hospital scene, the asking her Aai to bring him home, her general stepping out of bounds of her comfort zone, doing his dishes, cooking, feeding the guy, surely you don't expect much more?? Leave the poor girl alone, please. And as Shyamala points out in Indian weddings, it is the guy that does all the promising. My ladli is shy, demure and oh so sanskari, all qualities that made your ladla fall for her hook, line and sinker.. You don't want her changing, do you?

And for that matter, what is this habit of Arjun's, making my beti wait for him at every turn? You guys need to teach him the value of punctuality, he cannot be late to every tete a tete with his lady and mere apologies won't cut it either sans flowers, sans candy, sans some pretty earrings as appropriate expressions of contriteness.

Shyamala, you are poking fun at my rightful indignation at Vishnu? No, I was not getting upset wih him about the kidnapping but at the thought that he wanted to ruin my beti's engagement. He will not harm my ladli, yes, his promise to his maayi is like a kavach that protects Purvi. Sentimental she might be, maudlin never so please don't decry her "humare apna sa lag raha tha" dialogue with her Aai, she has sixth sense along with her sanskars, an unexpected boon for Arjun and all his mausis, you couldn't ask for more!! :)

Aside: Shyamala, there was a pundit present, no slokas but definitely a pundit. Good for Archana, done like a proper engagement should be done, warm, personal with family and well washers. I liked the shoulder shoving, at least it was different (a little irreverent on Arjun's part, he is usually more doting lover) than the other interludes between them which end with them turning mushy and anxious as to their future.

Laurie,

On the fence, of course, holding one hand of each! And if, as seems to be the common wisdom these days, they do get separated, you will end up in two pieces!!

Shyamala Aunty

Originally posted by: Axiom

Loved your post Janhvi!!!

Purvi is very demure and subtle with the way she expresses her feelings for him but it meaning is felt very profoundly. Case in point, how she tackles DK and submits her resignation to give him the answer to his question of "Do you love Arjun?". Even he was impressed! 😆

I agree that your ladli has done her part to show your damaad how much she loves him and she even said it the other day while having pav bhaji. I thought he would have had a "What did you just say?" moment but he was too caught up in his own feelings I guess. That was actually the first time she said those three magical words to him outright aside from her airport confession.

These two have blossomed into a beautiful sonnet, haven't they? Each now confident in each other's love and looking forward to the promise of a happy life together. If only...

So if I'm for both sides, where do I fit in? 🤣

No, no Jyothi, you don't have to worry about any such conflict for Vishnu. Balan has abandoned the Manav track - he says as much to Vishnu, when he assures him that a bigger bakra would turn up soon. Moreover, Balan is not a hotheaded fool, and as that Yadav tells Vishnu over the phone, he has issued orders that Vishnu is to lie low for the present as they are still in danger and Vishnu has a sword hanging over his head as yet. He would NOT want Vishnu to make ANY move against Manav or his family.

Yes, Arjun makes a fine show by shoving Vishnu once and taking him by the collar once, but it comes off only because Vishnu does not shove back. If he had, and Arjun had fallen down (despite the sanjeevani cure, he has still been shot twice very recently), it would not have looked very impressive. However, it was an instinctive and entirely understandable reaction of Arjun's , to catch Vishnu by the collar, though an imprudent one.

It was rather the sort of thing Dharmendra would have done in his heyday. Even Arjun's lines sounded like Dharam's trademark Kutte, kaminey, tera khoon pee jaoonga!

It was not anything like as bad, however, as the time when Arjun, instead of hiding behind the gangsters' van, ran with Purvi across the open field and, naturally, got shot. He could have got her shot as well.

I wonder how DK, in his youth, would have handled such a confrontation. An interesting thought, that! I am sure he would have had a cooler head no matter what the crisis.

Shyamala

Originally posted by: jdronamraju

Shyamala,
We are a frantic bunch, aren't we !! 😃

It is just that all of our thinking through all combinations gives us a false sense of security that we know what we are going to face :) In reality, it is probably just the opposite !! The sword of separation that is hanging on our heads is to be blamed for our state, at least this week 😃

Arjun is no ruffian, to be as menancing as Vishnu, but he did hold his own, all firm, protective and full of valor, shoved him too twice :) for a sauve, cultured, yuppie canadian dude, he was awesome in his own way. Moreover, he was so cute doing it 😛

Vishnu lalla is proving more and more to be the proverbial bad guy. Soon it is going to be a test between his loyalty to his baba and his love for his maayi. Let us see..

Laurie my dear,

Not more than I am missing you all!

You flatter Vishnu too much; he does not have to be 'very sharp' to notice, not Varsha's aversion to Manav's family, but her extreme reluctance, amounting to fear, to have him getting involved with them. It sticks out so much that anyone but a fool, and he is decidedly not one, would have smelt a rat.

He will not let go, as you surmise, and will perhaps worm it out of her one day, for if he does not, how will the secret be outed? Unless of course Manav and/or Archana, Varsha, and Vishnu come face to face.

Once he knows the truth, Vishnu will still not give up on Varsha, but otherwise he will switch his loyalties 180 degrees, like turning on a coin (especially since he will also learn that Balan is not his baba at all), for in his black and white world, blood ties come above all else.

Yes, he is a bit of a sadist, and he is also trying to get over his feeling of shame at having failed in his 'mission', and his irritation at Varsha's no go fatwa, by baiting the two. My reaction to that snarling match between him and Arjun is somewhat different from that of the rest of you; take a look at my post to Jyothi above. I would be interested in your reaction to mine.

My dear, what is the use of talking about 'levity' when PR shows a confirmed kidnapper, who has shot at at someone to boot, not once but twice, being let off on bail as easy as kiss my hand? It is all one big tamasha.

Shyamala Aunty

Originally posted by: Axiom

Dear Shyamala Aunty,

How we've missed you 🤗

Vishnu is definitely going to be the accelerant in all tracks coming up. ARVI, ARMAN, The Addams Family.

He's is a very sharp one too - noticing his mother's aversion to Manav's family. The thing that makes him dangerous is his tenacity. He's not going to give up so easily and he knows that if he let's his baba down then its his reputation at stake as well. He does not take lightly to being bested.

He knows how to keep on the pressure points too as he keeps addressing Purvi knowing how uncomfortable he makes her feel. He is certainly not afraid of Arjun (considering he shot him twice) and even addresses Purvi directly as if Arjun were a bystander.

Not sure how I feel about the levity that they've treated this situation with regardless of who the character is.

Originally posted by: sashashyam

Jyothi and the rest of the gang,

I never saw such a lot for searching out every likely or unlikely reason for doom and gloom!

Vishnu is not going to do anything to Arjun, he makes it quite clear today in that foot of the temple steps scene. I was also glad that he confirmed what I had predicted yesterday, that he would never break the kasam taken on his mayee's head.

I was also correct in thinking that the bail order might have a clause forcing him to stay in Mumbai - now they are ensuring this by making him report daily at the police station. I am so often totally wrong when I try to second guess the CVs that to get TWO things right in a row almost made me faint!

True to my penchant for Vishnu the Bad Guy, I liked the arrogance with which he goes up to the couple to bait Arjun, who, predictably rises to the bait., and almost gets into fisticuffs with Vishnu. Nice going and looks good in front of your girl - Arjun's profile, with the clenched jaw, is a total throwback to Arjun the Boss (complete with the mauve shirt, which looks nicely washed and ironed). But it makes no sense at all in practical terms.

I also liked the sudden menace in Vishnu's face as he asks Arjun about his leg and claims full credit for the shot having inflicted only a glancing wound. So, if we are to believe Vishnu's claims about his being a crack shot, Janhvi was right about its being deliberate. But that also washes out any lingering ideas she or others might have of him being a misled innocent. He has undertaken many successful kidnapping jobs for his baba in the past, and he might have shot any number of innocents in the process without turning a hair.

All in all, I felt that Vishnu came up tops in that snarling match with Arjun. After all, he is a goonda and a street fighter, not a well-bred plutocrat who is not used to these bare-knuckle bouts. However, I am Arjun will soon learn to fight hard, focussing on action and not on pointless bravado.

The softening process for Vishnu has started, with his standing up to his baba, even if only very hesitantly, to protect his mayee. Let us see how fast and how far it goes. If Purvi starts developing the Stockholm Syndrome for him, I shall take a slipper to her - Janhvi, be forewarned. We do not tolerate sentimental fools, and we do not want one such for our boy.

The temple scenes too are getting to be one exactly like the other. Can't the CVs exert themselves a bit to think of at least some new shots? Well, the conversation before they entered the temple was 20% better than their recent efforts, so I suppose one has to be content with that.!

Don't worry, Jyothi the 15 day deadline for so many different tracks does not mean 15 days in real time. Nor need it mean the same duration for each element. Each of the 4 Yugas was supposed to be but an instant in the dream of Lord Vishnu as he lay stretched out in his Ananthashayanam , reclining on the great serpent Adisesha in mid-ocean. Similarly, 15 days in the dreams of Ekta Kapoor or her CVs could mean another yuga of Archana's travails, with our kids in tow. God save us all!!

Shyamala

Originally posted by: sashashyam

Janhvi,

If I had a daughter who, after a harrowing day and night in captivity surrounded by a bunch of ruffians, interprets what the gang leader says after the other guy slaps her (that as her father is going to cough up the ransom, there is no need to hit 3 crores; if Manav had not been ready to do so, he himself would have ordered her to be shot in the head) as his fighting with the other chap for her, and adds, as a clincher, that "humare apna sa lag raha tha" (he seemed like one of our own), I would say that she needs to have her head examined pronto.

This in not a film by my namesake M.Night Shyamalan for you to be talking of the sixth sense, it is PR. So just chalk it down as another crass piece of CVs' folly, and do not go about adding unwarranted entries to your ladli's bio.😉 Next you will be saying that she is also an akhandasowbhagyavati (the equivalent of the Bharat Ratna for heroines of TV soaps)!!

As for the Arjun-Purvi love or other scenes, I stand by my review that they are getting to be increasingly trite: what is it with Main ab tumhare bina ek pal bhi nahin rah sakta! One cannot be more pedestrian than that. It does not even have the virtue of the high romantic to rescue it, like the one about the dil jo dhadakna bandh kar dega. This is plain boring stuff; the CVs are getting lazy.

What is the use of having such an AAA pair if this is all they get to work on? I think that if the director would just let the pair ad lib their scenes, they would do much better; they are both bright, peppy young people. Not that this is going to happen, and now there are probably only a few unclouded moments between the two that could have been used to excellent effect, which makes the present mush an even greater pity.

And how many times are we to watch that Nandi scene? Nandi himself must be saying to himself: Kya, yeh log phir se aa gaye mere kaan bharne! (pun intended) (What, these people are here again to fill my ears ! Kaan bharna also means to incite someone against someone else, thru false gossip). It only shows a complete bankruptcy of imagination as far as the script writers are concerned.

So, for any hatke scenes, we shall soon be reduced to Vishnu, who will undoubtedly oblige. He was very good at the end of that mini-confrontation with his baba, when Balan glares at him and Vishnu looks back at him, half sheepish and a little afraid, yet half determined.

But what a fall that will be, my fellow gang members (apologies to Mark Antony) !

Shyamala

PS: Apologies for having missed out on the pundit; I must put it down to having had no chance to watch the half hour, even 19 hours late, in any kind of peace and quiet!

Of course there is, Janhvi.

The whole of Ekta's very successful Kkusum was, I understand, basely solely on the Kkusum of the title being an akhandasowbhagyavati, so that, after marrying her, the husband could never die before her. What would be the use of saddling oneself with such a female who might be run over by a truck any day, leaving the chap as exposed as before, is of course an open question, but then Ekta's CVs ignore such logical quibbles.

Okay, if you insist on quoting Tamil folk wisdom at me, I see that I shall have to give in, so keep your 6th or 7th sense if you want to.

I was not talking of Vishnu saving the day for the other principals, but only of his saving us from the monotony of these soporific Arjun-Purvi scenes, interspersed with Archana's repeat demos of How to Cry Profusely without Spoiling your Looks. There is a difference between the two, so don't cherish any false hopes!😉And please don't quote Theognis (whose name I suspect you have misspelt) at us either. It is all a question of the percentages of bad and good, but I do not think even Archimedes had got to percentages!

Shyamala

Originally posted by: soapwatcher1

Really, there is akandasowbhagyavati??? or are you pulling my leg?😃

A mother's imagination knows no bounds (kaka ku thann kunju ponn kunju) so allow me to invest my ladli with Night Shyamalan (film) like qualities. 😆 I agree, the romantic scenes were a little trite, yawn! but the shove at the end was what I liked 😉

I see all of you adroitly avoided the topic of teaching your beloved protege some lessons in punctuality!😳

As for Vishnu saving the day, the day will come soon come when you guys will admire, albeit grudgingly, "my lalla" 's talent.

I shall abstain from condemning Soham yet 😉 for " Fairly examined, truly understood, No man is wholly bad, nor wholly good." (Theognis)

Originally posted by: sashashyam

Janhvi,

If I had a daughter who, after a harrowing day and night in captivity surrounded by a bunch of ruffians, interprets what the gang leader says after the other guy slaps her (that as her father is going to cough up the ransom, there is no need to hit 3 crores; if Manav had not been ready to do so, he himself would have ordered her to be shot in the head) as his fighting with the other chap for her, and adds, as a clincher, that "humare apna sa lag raha tha" (he seemed like one of our own), I would say that she needs to have her head examined pronto.

This in not a film by my namesake M.Night Shyamalan for you to be talking of the sixth sense, it is PR. So just chalk it down as another crass piece of CVs' folly, and do not go about adding unwarranted entries to your ladli's bio.😉 Next you will be saying that she is also an akhandasowbhagyavati (the equivalent of the Bharat Ratna for heroines of TV soaps)!!

As for the Arjun-Purvi love or other scenes, I stand by my review that they are getting to be increasingly trite: what is it with Main ab tumhare bina ek pal bhi nahin rah sakta! One cannot be more pedestrian than that. It does not even have the virtue of the high romantic to rescue it, like the one about the dil jo dhadakna bandh kar dega. This is plain boring stuff; the CVs are getting lazy.

What is the use of having such an AAA pair if this is all they get to work on? I think that if the director would just let the pair ad lib their scenes, they would do much better; they are both bright, peppy young people. Not that this is going to happen, and now there are probably only a few unclouded moments between the two that could have been used to excellent effect, which makes the present mush an even greater pity.

And how many times are we to watch that Nandi scene? Nandi himself must be saying to himself: Kya, yeh log phir se aa gaye mere kaan bharne! (pun intended) (What, these people are here again to fill my ears ! Kaan bharna also means to incite someone against someone else, thru false gossip). It only shows a complete bankruptcy of imagination as far as the script writers are concerned.

So, for any hatke scenes, we shall soon be reduced to Vishnu, who will undoubtedly oblige. He was very good at the end of that mini-confrontation with his baba, when Balan glares at him and Vishnu looks back at him, half sheepish and a little afraid, yet half determined.

But what a fall that will be, my fellow gang members (apologies to Mark Antony) !

Shyamala

PS: Apologies for having missed out on the pundit; I must put it down to having had no chance to watch the half hour, even 19 hours late, in any kind of peace and quiet!

I didn't watch Kusum, been sadly bereft of the best in entertainment, I fear.

Now, I know your Achilles heel, folk wisdom :)

No, no I have not misspelt Theognis, that is the right spelling, strange always brings to mind a theorem rather than a poet! That is a folly of the Greeks and their nomenclature :(

Ah, you underestimate me Ms Holmes, by talent I did mean Vishnu's acting talent, beggars cannot be choosers and I for one was ready to take any crumbs of praise thrown at my Lalla.

Wonder what fun awaits us tomorrow, off to bed now.

Wonderful ladies, good morning from this end of the world...the heavens are pouring and i am reminded of Arjun Purvi and their relationship with rain...😳😍...

I see all of you adroitly avoided the topic of teaching your beloved protege some lessons in punctuality

Good going Jyothi for defending our Arjun 😃...yes, i guess the bangles were lost in the kidnapping fiasco...