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Posted: 13 years ago
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Dear Kesha,

Who gave Arjun the benefit of the doubt during his "main sab theek kardoonga" monologue ? No one, not even I! That is my whole point, but I have gone into this at great length in my response to Laurie, so I shall let it rest here/

Shyamala


Originally posted by: mjht_ArVi4ever

completely agree with you laurie.

when we can give arjun the benefit of doubt during his "main sab theek kardoonga" monologue than why not Purvi. Poor girl is crushed under the debt of gratitude, for her archu's trust is more important because arjun's love is definetly there for her no doubt.
think she is acting in favor of situation

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Laurie,

Now, don't jib! Two small points more and I am done.

1)He already knows that Purvi is with him through thick and thin: An over-optimistic statement if ever there was one.

Tell me this, Laurie, if Archana refuses to let Purvi marry Arjun for whatever reason (I somehow do not think the Rs.10000/- thing is going to work for him; it is too pat), what do you think Purvi would do?

I do not have to think, I know. She will bow her head, sit in her room and shed some tears, and then marry Vinay II without a squeak of protest.. I am sure you will not contest this assessment, for your whole thesis rests on the central pillar of Purvi's unquestioned and absolute obedience to Archana's every command.

Now then, is this the thick, or the thin, or something else that is the exception to the rule?

2) Please add this sentence at the very end of my original response: I am a vegetarian😉😉

There, what did I tell you? I am really done!

Shyamala

Originally posted by: sashashyam



Laurie,

Nice try, and argued at length, with amazing fluency and your usual eloquence, 👏👏👏even from the fox pit in which you were apparently hiding.

Your basic conclusion, that Purvi will never go against Archana, and will wait it out till (or if, more like it) her aai gave her the green signal, should make Arjun's heart sink. Though apparently it does not, as per you. You may very well be correct. He seems to be quite happy letting the engine of the client's car get flooded while he floats on a gentle tide or reminiscences (which stop at just the right moment, even for the forehead kiss scene!)

Well, it makes my heart sink.

As for your affirmation that "Purvi does love Arjun, fiercely, and will defend him in front of anyone. She will not stand by and watch his character get tarnished. ⭐️ ", I presume you have already built in the exceptions to this: first of all Archana, then Manav Baba, and then who else? Well, all I can say is that if she actually defends him anywhere at all, publicly and strongly, I will give you at least pass marks. But I have yet to see any evidence to back up this sweeping assertion of yours; you are like a savvy defence lawyer indulging in verbal sleight of hand, Laurie!

As I noted elsewhere, catch any kids these days, adopted or not, being so crushed under the burden of gratitude that they end up having spaghetti for a spine when the parent is concerned! Our sanskaari Purvi, however, defies this 21st century norm. One's heart goes out to poor Arjun. Fate is playing Russian roulette with him.

I agree with every word that you have written about Arjun. But that is the core of the matter. Arjun loves her, and Purvi lets herself be loved. That is all. I dare say she does love him back, but it is not with the kind of visceral emotion that will not be denied, and she probably never will. There is no room for any deewanapan in her makeup; it she had been Juliet, Shakespeare would have expired of a broken heart! But hey, if she, with all her reservations and sanskaars, is what Arjun wants, then that is his fate, and who am I to object!

But what I will not do it is to find excuses for the girl for whom he comes pretty much last on her list of priorities. I like spirited young women who will fight for what they want, and at least try to convince their recalcitrant elders when they are plainly in the wrong. What now is the difference between Purvi - behaving like a German motorist stopping at a red light at 1 am when there is no other car in sight for half a mile - and Archana, whose permanent location these days is apparently behind the kitchen door at the Deshmukhs', peeping out with tearful eyes? Nothing at all.

The curious thing is that if Arjun had been in Purvi's place, and he had held off her or even backed out because DK forbade his marriage to Purvi, he would have been pretty universally excoriated as a coward. Now when Purvi seems likely to do the same thing if her mother is set against Arjun, I am sure there will no voices raised in even much milder criticism. What is this but double standards?

So, dear Laurie, while I am all admiration for your superb thesis, I am not biting, and I vote with Jyoti and Vilasini.

And yes, it is safe for you to come out. I at least am not going to eat you!😉

Shyamala

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: sashashyam

Dear Kesha,

Who gave Arjun the benefit of the doubt during his "main sab theek kardoonga"monologue ? No one, not even I! That is my whole point, but I have gone into this at great length in my response to Laurie, so I shall let it rest here/

Shyamala




Dear shyamlaji
I read your above post and it was very crisp n clear.
as far as the benefit of doubt is concerned than most of the arvians were in his defence for few weeks and thats what i meant... earlier he was supported but after a certain period he lost that support in the same way lets see how purvi character is moulded in future n than pass the judgement
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: Axiom

Exaclty Tanya! 😃

She will have it all. It's like with everything else in life... it's all about timing.
The pieces are still being moved around the board and not all the enemies are known. Offense strikes first before the defense sets in 😃
She'll get there for sure AND she'll do it the right way! ⭐️

Hi Laurie,
You laid out the facts very succinctly👏⭐️ well done portraying Purvi's conundrum for all of us.. ...and i guess that is how Purvi is characterized...yes it is about timing...what if Arjun's plane had taken off with him in it- it is about timing...and if Purvi does not at the right time and for the right reasons - stand up for her love- then all is a lost cause...I am not so optimistic as you are- on the one hand you say that Purvi will do it the right way (which often takes time- as it did for Arjun- post engagement, to finally tell everyone he loves Purvi), i have a feeling then in that case, her timing may not nearly be as perfect...
I have really loved Shyamala's description of Arjun who loves and Purvi as the loved...fits perfectly with these two...😳😃
I guess if we are camping out 😉 i am with JD, Vilasini and Shyamala 😆...
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: sashashyam

Well, it makes my heart sink.

I agree with every word that you have written about Arjun. But that is the core of the matter. Arjun loves her, and Purvi lets herself be loved. That is all. I dare say she does love him back, but it is not with the kind of visceral emotion that will not be denied, and she probably never will. There is no room for any deewanapan in her makeup; it she had been Juliet, Shakespeare would have expired of a broken heart! But hey, if she, with all her reservations and sanskaars, is what Arjun wants, then that is his fate, and who am I to object!

Shyamala,
I thought I would be in the minority when I posted my response, glad to see there is someone who agrees with me...I loved what you said above..I agree with every sentence you wrote today, and, YES, Purvi does let herself be loved by Arjun, atleast it seems so. for, we do not see anything to disprove it.
You are right, it does look like the PAP is in the minority, fighting for Arjun and his love always. 😊
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Posted: 13 years ago
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BTW, after the blank check episode with the crazy chic, didnt Purvi ask permission from her Aaji to meet Arjun? Wasnt the embargo in place then? If so, she had already defied her Aai, isnt it? 😊. Or is it, that she didnt think it was effective, but now, as the Queen Mother again reiterated it the other day (after Purvi sees Arjun in the garage), she thinks it is in place...hmm...
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Belive me.. I understand all your frustrations for they are some of mine too 😆

Even I wanted Purvi to grab any chance she got to make Arjun happy - even if it was a little like his dream 😉 but the girl's hardwired not to show a modicum of emotion for anyone other than her mother.
She loves her mother dearly and will not defy her. She has not found her true independence yet but she's on her way.
Once she's got Archana's blessing (which might still be a while) sky's the limit. 😉
I know we just want to see something from her in the way of reckless emotion for her hero and I hope for all our sakes its soon 😆
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Posted: 13 years ago
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I agree with the topic maker too.

Arjun and Purvi's circumstances are different. Arjun has his dad on his side so he doesnt have to fear or worry about anything. on the other hand, Purvi has a lot to fear and loose. her mother's family that she has been praying for can be broken because of her (there is nothing that is not broken already from our point of view, but this is purvi's point of view i am talking about :)..) anyways even if one puts oneself in archana's position, for her arjun is the guy who cheated her one daughter so no mother would want to marry him off to another. he has to prove himself.. if she leaves home like arjun did and went to leave with him, it is archana who will suffer the most and thats the last thing her ONLY good kid will do to her.. she may love arjun unconditionally but she cant do that for her mother doesnt matter if this is an adopted child or not.. they relation is and will always be of real mom and daughter.

i was hoping Teju would come around and tell archana the history of arjun and ovi and explain to her that purvi is his first love. but i dont have any hopes on that considering that teju was actually hoping archana to tell purvi to stay away as she promised savita.

i dont want to blame teju for her behaviour because it is all savita's doing and the facts in front of her doesnt help the situation either.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Laurie,

When anyone begins a sentence with 'I understand how you feel' all my antennae come right up, for that is usually proof positive that he/she does not understand it at all. In your case, I will give you a time-limited benefit of doubt, and let us see if your protegee delivers.

Purvi is never going to find "her true independence" because Archana is never going to agree to her marrying Arjun. Today, Sulochana asked her, in effect, why she was bothering only about Ovi and not about Purvi, which brought her up short and made her a tad defensive. But then, when Sulochana asked her again what she would do if and when Arjun made good and turned up with the dowry, she avoided the obvious answer, and instead insisted that he would never be able to do it.

Well, that seemed to me to indicate that she will do anything she can to avoid delivering on her side of the bargain, by hook or by crook. Purvi did nothing but stand around with tear-filled eyes and look petrified of her mother. By now, I am SICK of the pair of them, and I find myself wondering why Arjun did not fall for Teju, instead of for this aai-obsessed girl . Sari duniya me yehi ladki mili thi kya?

'Once she's got Archana's blessing (which might still be a while) sky's the limit". It will be a good lo...ong while, and more like never, but 'limit' for what? If it is for demonstrativeness, then there is no difference between Purvi and the hordes of standard issue bahus and betis who populate our soaps. One may have put up with that, but for Heaven's sake, Laurie, do not make a virtue of it! You, of all people!

Shyamala


Originally posted by: Axiom

Belive me.. I understand all your frustrations for they are some of mine too 😆

Even I wanted Purvi to grab any chance she got to make Arjun happy - even if it was a little like his dream 😉 but the girl's hardwired not to show a modicum of emotion for anyone other than her mother.
She loves her mother dearly and will not defy her. She has not found her true independence yet but she's on her way.
Once she's got Archana's blessing (which might still be a while) sky's the limit. 😉
I know we just want to see something from her in the way of reckless emotion for her hero and I hope for all our sakes its soon 😆

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: sashashyam



But then, when Sulochana asked her again what she would do if and when Arjun made good and turned up with the dowry, she avoided the obvious answer, and instead insisted that he would never be able to do it.



I was shocked at that behavior of Archana, today.
Yeah, Archana cried and I started to melt a bit 😆
But at that point didn't it look like Archana is hell bent on getting that favorite toy for Ovi come hell or high water? 😲

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