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Posted: 13 years ago
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Dear rayadallie,

For starters, sorry for the goof up! It was a mistake in the cut and paste department; I was trying to copy and paste your id and I ended up with the text of an earlier message!

Thank you ever so much for the compliment. I am glad you enjoyed the piece.

For the rest, I agree with you 100% that Purvi should start thinking of herself and of Arjun for a change, instead of about everyone else, including some who hate her guts. Also that one cannot please everyone, and should never try to do that.

But as for Archana's very tiresome and at times impossible behaviour, more than her wanting to regain Manav's love (after all she throws it away for the sake of the surly Sachin), it is, to my mind, a case of wrong internal programming. Whatever the situation, she has a 100% record in doing the wrong thing or making the wrong choice!

Shyamala B.Cowsik

Originally posted by: rayadallie

Excellent post. I enjoyed reading it and it was an good analysis. M y only desire would be for purvi to not let go of ARjun. They love each other and they should fight for their love.

In today's world, you can never please everyone. No matter what you do, it will always upset someone. Maybe ovi never even love arjun, it was just an obsession which she can realize later on. why force someone to love you? There would never be happiness in your life and as see see before, arjun never made time to be with her. Its just her obsession.

As for Archana, i have no words to describe how low she is making herself for manav's love. How can manav love her and treat her with so much disrespect and also have his mother and even children treating her with disrespect openly? If that is what the CV's portraying as LOVE, then I prefer not to be loved.

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Dear bee5,

As you know, I always value your nuanced opinions, and I am pleased that once more, we are of one mind about yesterday's episode. Thanks ever so much for such generous compliments.

But your analysis in this post goes a considerable distance beyond just the happenings yesterday, and it is very good. I particularly liked the italicised portions.

The one about Archana and Ovi is spot on. It might be concern for a daughter, despite the fact that Ovi hates her guts, but Archana is not doing anyone any service by maligning Arjun without knowing anything of the matter. That she knows nothing is of course thanks to her having prevented Purvi from explaining anything, instead shouting her down in a most unpleasant and ugly scene.

I also liked your very fair and balanced appraisal of the Arjun-Ovi relationship. And in the point you have raised concerning Sachin, Arjun and Purvi, you have broken fresh ground, as none of us has noted this aspect before this post.

All in all, your post was much more interesting that the episode!

Shyamala

PS: The idea of Ovi seeing Arjun as a trophy husband is a very funny reversal of the usual gender roles!

Originally posted by: bee5

Dear Shyamala,

Now it has become a norm to look for your posts. It is a great pleasure to read your thoughts on the show. Today again the thoughts are totally in sync.

Here goes mine -

Clearly, everything hasn't been revealed yet. There was obviously a lot to be told from Arjun's side, Archana's side, DK's side and also Purvi's stand in all this. Obviously those are all for some other day since they still need to drag the story further to be in circulation.

As per the spoiler posted on the forum it is clear why the complete revelation was held back - to find a reason to justify the upcoming track for Arjun slogging at K house to prove his worth. If Arjun & DK had revealed everything today, then the upcoming track would make no sense. (However age-old that story line is! Grr)

But one thing is very clear is that DK understands all the events properly, that
- Arjun did tell him about Purvi, but he did it after the Engagement;
- It was DK who had misunderstood Arjun's restlessness with the unknown feelings (of Love) and assumed he had fallen in love with Ovi which caused all the issues for Arjun.
- DK further understood why his son could not reveal it at the Engagement itself.
- In addition, I am hoping Arjun did tell DK that he kept quiet due to Ovi's legal issues, when DK and Arjun had the talk after DK's arrival from Australia (with masked dialogues).

Also DK did ask Arjun to keep quiet until his return because of the sensitivity of the issue. Only thing is he wasn't aware his return would take that long and also he did not foresee things going so out-of-control which was mostly instigated by Punni, (infact no one is still aware of Punni's selfish motives in all these. Humiliating Purvi was just 1 part, the other part was wanting Arjun for herself).
Clearly DK does not think Arjun is at fault, things just happened one after the other.

This is no excuse for Arjun, for keeping quiet due to Ovi's lame(IMO) legal issue which further messed the situation, but as he repeatedly told, she was his friend and he respected her feelings. We ArVians might not see it right, but he wasn't incorrect either. He did know what it is, to be not loved in return/be in a one-sided love, which is why he respected her feelings and did not wanted to burden her with 1 more issue that too of such stature. She had put a hold to her career for him and he knew how important a career is to an individual.


I was sure Archana did not intent to throw Purvi out of the house, she merely asked her to get out of her sight. Today it was also clear that she was aware that Purvi has gone out (to think over the matter which from time-to-time even Archana does) and expected her to come back home after that. [And Purvi the good girl that she is,(as I hoped), did come back home.]

But, what baffles me is Archana's jumping into conclusions blindly. She has been doing that repeatedly - at the bday party, then at D house after the bday party, then claiming that Arjun is cheating both the girls when she slapped Purvi. Then today again with Ovi.

1st of all, Ovi has told Archana numerous times not to get involved with her issues. Again, today she spared not a thought on why a person like DK would support his son if he was wrong? There was no reason for her to console Ovi or make her see the truth of Arjun, which she herself isn't aware of. There was no need of her to interfere , that too with her blind thoughts and pass a judgement on Arjun that he doesn't deserve either of the girls.

For Manav, his world resolves around his daughters, the sole reason of his survival for 18 yrs, with a life without his beloved. Though Manav's anger at the revealation and the turn of events is justified, the physical display of it (slap, shove, humilation in public) cannot be justified with what-so-ever reasons. Being a successful businessman and being far way in Canada for 18 years, did not teach a thing in civility! Alas!

Manav now needs to make Ovi understand that Arjun after all is a human and not a priceless possession that she could walk around as a trophy. The girl doesn't even want to see the normal truth that Teju sees. Teju is also angry at Archana and everything to do with Archana, which includes Purvi. But that is besides the whole issue that she sees in Arjun - However busy a person could be, she does see the lack of lover's feelings in Arjun towards Ovi.

The day Arjun disclosed about Purvi to DK, I was wondering how come DK never asked if Purvi too loves him? More so, after Arjun's revelation, it would have made Ovi's love a one-sided stroy and also the fact he was aware that Arjun had admitted that he did not love Ovi (before Arjun came to India.) It seemed if DK has this superiority feeling about his son that he doesn't want to ask about Purvi, but today that concern was laid to rest for me - DK did assume Purvi loved Arjun too. He trusted his son's choice and also that it wasn't a one-sided love. Though he was correct in his assumption, it could be termed as a blind trust in his son, similar to Archana's on her daughter. But the difference is DK doesn't harp about his Sanskaars or his good genes when he trusts his son.

I noticed that the camera had Sachin in the background in several scenes. Sachin was a witness to Arjun-Purvi's initial relation. He was aware how they used to fight like a snake and a mongoose and how they could never see eye-to-an-eye. Would he realize that Arjun and Purvi fell in love just like that, and that it wasn't anything planned and strategized by either Arjun or Purvi and hence no one was cheating? I know I am asking for too much, but then I would definitely want to see his thoughts on this whole issue. Only thing that the CVs revealed was that he wouldn't support Ovi in her obssessive behavior, which is a great relief!

The real motive of Punni is unknown to anyone so far and even Arjun doesn't seem to understand the gravity of Punni's actions (MMS and all). He thinks Punni is right when she revealed that Arjun is involved with Purvi and thinks that it is Archana who is misunderstaing Punni's actions as just acts of humiliation against Purvi. For him, she doesn't seem to be any threat like Vinay was and hence would he still retain her in the office? I would want her to be fired, but that would mean the end of Punni in the story ...

The scene between DK & Arjun was really warm. Arjun was so glad to hear what DK had to say - that he does not want to separate 2 lovers, how he understood the whole situation, that he will support the couple all the way and accept Purvi as his DIL. Not separate 2 lovers is what DK wants even with Manav and Archana. That smile on Arjun's face at the end was so endearing.
DK's supportive hand over Archana was a really nice gesture, but not sure if it is going to have any effect on Archana.

BTW, RD looked very fresh in today's episode. Anyone else felt it?

About the precap, I too think that they would hug and console each other with some kisses, in addition to some initial protests from Purvi still doubtful about the support from her loved ones and uncertain about the future.

Anyway, this week's has been really good episodes. Complete drama. If these do not fetch the TRPs, then it is a hint to the CVs that they need wrap this story up. The story seems to be just standing on the bare minimum plot of non-disclosure of the real facts. Just tie in the loose ends and be done with it. However cute Arjun-Purvi are and however sweet their love story is and will be, a story should always leave the audience with a desire to see the characters more and with a feeling that could last for a long time, not beat the crap out of everything dragging unnecessarily leaving a bad taste in the mind.

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Posted: 13 years ago
#53

Dont know whether anyone thought about this..yesterday Savitha & Ovi mentioned about money greed to Archana.. Now this Purvi POA is going to cause trouble.

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: sashashyam

My dear Archana,

A very big hug to a girl after my own heart (the hug emoticon just will not be adequate!). I loved the way in which you collated your facts, and then analysed them so rationally and logically before reaching any conclusions.

I am sure you are correct about the likely tone and the content of the meeting - with rain, soft music, a slow approach by Purvi (yes, I recognise the other, ramrod stiff posture and the official walk), no umbrella: such a long list of clues! Even Sherlock Holmes would have approved, not to speak of the ultra meticulous little Belgian, Hercule Poirot, with his insistence on 'order and method and the use of the 'little grey cells' with which I am sure you are abundantly provided!

I also loved your other, longer post: trailer trash is just right. The sad thing is that Manav too has degenerated to this level, and Archana as well, in that last horrible scene with Purvi.

As for Archana being as blind as a bat wrt Arjun, it is even less excusable than you think. As someone else pointed out on this thread, DK obviously backs his son and finds nothing to criticise in his behaviour in this matter. Archana should have realised that DK would never condone Arjun's indulging in any two timing of the kind of which she accuses Arjun. The DK factor alone should have been sufficient to make her pause and rethink before condemning Arjun so roundly. It shows the kind of foolish sanctimoniousness that is so very irritating. don't you agree?

Shyamala

Thank you Shyamala and a big, big hug back to you!!!!! 🤗🤗🤗 I hope I get proved right with this.
I am also highly irritated with Archana's assessment of Arjun. She doesnt even know the story...why doesnt she practice what she preaches? During the party scene she preached to Ovi that she should get all the information before accusing somebody. And now she is telling Ovi Arjun is not worthy of either of them???
Bee is right...she should have seen that DK is supporting Arjun 100%. And she walked up and heard DK say that Arjun was not trying to hide anything...he knew about Arjun and Purvi before he went to Australia. She also knows perfectly well, as do the rest of them that that engagement was a complete surprise to him- he had no idea it was going to happen. They also saw Purvi run out and Arjun run after her. Apparently these people seem to have selective memory though.
I noticed Ovi asked the same question: he got engaged to me in front of everyone and put the ring on my finger. Again, selective memory---nobody seems to have remembered his reaction on seeing Ovi----no excitement, oh my god you are here, oh its so good to see you---nothing. His first words to her upon meeting her after not seeing her for so long was "Ovi what is all this??"
Archana also apparently fails to remember that Purvi asked her who the guy was that Ovi is getting engaged to and she herself told her that she cannot tell her. All of them knew what was coming---except Arjun. But all of them seem to be suffering from memory loss.
Her passing judgment on Arjun and the threads about him having to live in a chawl to prove his love for Purvi as per her wish are simply ridiculous. It makes absolutely no common sense. If she is a real mother, and really loves her daughter equally as she says she does...she should be thrilled that this man loves and cherishes her daughter and is going to marry her, and give her a good life complete with all the luxuries.
He is rich----there is nothing he wants or need from Purvi (unlike Vinays family who needed her salary...they are middle class and live in a chawl...and we all know what happened there. So my question how the hell is willingness to live in a chawl supposed to be an indication of character??) Arjun loves Purvi for her. Unfortunately, Purvi's mother who prides herself on her sensitivity towards her family members' feelings and her great Mahaan self is actually as blind as a bat and cant see the side of a barn in broad daylight.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Loved your analysis of the episode.. nothing is going good and i hope Purvi accepts the proposal and set things right.. or atleast teels him to convince her aai.. give the poor guy some hope that he messed up so many things but it was all worth it
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Dear Bee, had not seen your post until Shyamala's comments on it...👏
really enjoyed reading it...
Dear Shyamala, you were right and so were you Dear Arch...well said of Archana in PR..i am so glad that you were both right about the precap...and i am so thrilled 🥳...from the written updates of today...it seems nice bonding between Archana Tej...and he best being SULO AAJI..you go girl...
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: sashashyam

Dear bee5,

As you know, I always value your nuanced opinions, and I am pleased that once more, we are of one mind about yesterday's episode. Thanks ever so much for such generous compliments.

But your analysis in this post goes a considerable distance beyond just the happenings yesterday, and it is very good. I particularly liked the italicised portions.

The one about Archana and Ovi is spot on. It might be concern for a daughter, despite the fact that Ovi hates her guts, but Archana is not doing anyone any service by maligning Arjun without knowing anything of the matter. That she knows nothing is of course thanks to her having prevented Purvi from explaining anything, instead shouting her down in a most unpleasant and ugly scene.

I also liked your very fair and balanced appraisal of the Arjun-Ovi relationship. And in the point you have raised concerning Sachin, Arjun and Purvi, you have broken fresh ground, as none of us has noted this aspect before this post.

All in all, your post was much more interesting that the episode!

Shyamala

PS: The idea of Ovi seeing Arjun as a trophy husband is a very funny reversal of the usual gender roles!


Dear Shyamala,
Thank you very much for the kind comments.

Ever since Arjun's confession in D house, Sachin has been focused more. Did you notice it in today's episode too?
His expressions especially
- during the confession.
- during Manav man-handling Archana (in the corridor)
- during Archana taking a stand against savita and rebelliously declaring that she isn't going to go anywhere until divorce
- during Archana trying to console Ovi and make her understand (of course with her ill judgement about Arjun)
- during Archana handling Resham(the chawl lady) and talking far Ovi.

During all these times, there seems to be something going on in his head. I am so eager to know what that is. I have a haunch that he is melting towards Archana. But then the CVs are not letting him open his mouth and keeping it a suspense. I am so curious about this and I wish it is something positive.


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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: abhimg

Dear Bee, had not seen your post until Shyamala's comments on it...👏

really enjoyed reading it...


Thank you so much, Abhi😃 Means a lot.😊
Edited by bee5 - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Bee , yes I think there is so much to Sachin that the CVs never show. I hate that all he gets is a few glares and stares in a scene. My favorite episode of Sachin and Archana was the one after the leap when she took him to his old haunts and they strolled (or rather she dragged him) though memory lane. The CVs have to better utilize the actor. Sachin has such a strong connection to Archana but we never get to see exactly what he's thinking. There's so much he's bottled up inside, his story would be an interesting story since he had more of a connection to Archana than Ovi and Tej because they were taken away from Archana while they were still babies. Hopefully, now we get to see more of what Sachin thinks and feels and with the upcoming Varsha-Soham track, maybe they should also give Sachin a better storyline.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Dear gaga00,

Thanks a lot for the very kind words. I am so glad that you liked the post.

As for the rest, your wish --and mine and of all the rest of us as well - has been splendidly fulfilled on that little woodne bridge in the pouring rain. Lovely!

Shyamala B.Cowsik


Originally posted by: gaga00

Loved your analysis of the episode.. nothing is going good and i hope Purvi accepts the proposal and set things right.. or atleast teels him to convince her aai.. give the poor guy some hope that he messed up so many things but it was all worth it

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