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Awesome Post Jai 👏👏👏👏Originally posted by: Jaishankar
Hi Shyamala,
Wonderful posts and analysis as usual.Your lucid style makes me read your posts again n again.Thank you once again for such wonderful analysis.I agree to most of your views except for one.I feel the Old CV's even though ditched so much depressing crap but made sure that our Arman always stood firm and their love never vanquished. Even in Arman first divorce track ,if seen on the holistic point of view ,its one of the most pathetic reasons to get divorce (with both the parties agreeing to divorce just for Shravani's life n her baby) but one thing that made the audience hooked was the love that CV's portrayed between Arman, Manav was always shown to be telling Shravani that he was always marrying her as just over responsibility and nothing else and Archu is everything to him. As crazy as it sounds ,he always stood firm n so did Archu . Hence in the TRP game ,they kept winning coz CV's showed that love existing always between Arman. In fact I have never seen a male lead cry so much (Manav) equivalent to a female lead . Sushant portrayed it beautifully and they made the Male lead Manav repeatedly miss his Archu so bad and vice-versa that despite the crap being ditched majority of audience were glued to this wonderful pair and wanted them to unite.Its the build up CV's did for their re-union was the key here.Over a period of 1 year they tortured all Arman fans but they made sure that "missing each other" touch was always there whenever possible even in small scenes.I believe CV's success story for the first 2 years of PR for soaring high TRP's was this. And after re-union again inspite of crap ditched they made sure they hooked up the audience by taking advantage of the real life chemistry of Sushant n Ankita in reel life and they kept winning the TRP game.Now in case of Arvi as many pointed out the current CV's instead of keeping Arvi as parallel track ,they have intertwined them within Arman track. CV's according to me have done blunder by showing Arvi totally victimized over the situation and that "missing each other" touch is missing here. Arman faced nightmarish hell back then but the old CV's had that clever thought of making sure that "missing touch" was always there.Current CV's have done a major blunder by not giving Arvi some time to think about their love life. Arjun is shown too caught in circumstances and all over Ovi and Purvi caught in her Aai - Baba scenario. CV's have not thought of showing scenes where Arjun n Purvi are individually missing each other.I think one way to get TRP;s is if they start showing both of them missing each other on certain situations like Arvi missing each other and remembering each other say when one of them visit Shiv ji temple where it all started I guess.I think unless CV's start doing some justice here for the current generation ,its not going to work. Storyline will always remain crap.The difference is how effectively you use your leads. The current CV's need to take a leap out of old CV's for such scenes and I am sure if missing touch scenes slowly coming up ,then TRP is bound to come up and lot of Arvi fans will be back watching the show. I hope it happens for all Arvi fans sake.😊
Originally posted by: parameswaran
The worse PR gets, the juicier and delightful all your various comments get. Most times the comments are more entertaining than the telecasts Thanks much.
Originally posted by: sashashyam
You are more than welcome, and thanks a lot for the kind remarks.
Yes, we are fast becoming like the mourners in a Dickens novel, who eat and drink and make merry so that they can forget the dear departed, whose wake they are holding! The dear departed of course being the laash of PR, and in particular the Arjun-Purvi track. It has all been reduced to, no, not tragedy, for that would at least have dignity, but utter and shameful mediocrity.
Shyamala
Originally posted by: archverma10
Bee...what I meant is that his attempt to be nice...in the sense of "Im fantastic...how is goa...wish I could have come with u...but alas!!! Too much work...etc) I felt was an automatic response...programmed to placate Ovi...perhaps formality is a better word than pretense?
Originally posted by: soapwatcher1
Dear Arch and Bee, whatever excuses you make for Arjun, they are not going to fly, at least not for me, alas!😭
Originally posted by: Jaishankar
Hi Shyamala,Wonderful posts and analysis as usual dear.Your lucid style makes me read your posts again n again.Thank you once again for such wonderful analysis.
I agree to most of your views except for one.I feel the Old CV's even though ditched so much depressing crap but made sure that our Arman always stood firm and their love never vanquished.That missing touch was always there. Even in Arman first divorce track ,if seen on the holistic point of view ,its one of the most pathetic reasons to get divorce (with both the parties agreeing to divorce just for Shravani's life n her baby which is ridiculous to say the least) but one thing that made the audience hooked was the love that CV's portrayed between Arman, Manav was always shown to be telling Shravani that he was always marrying her as just over responsibility and nothing else and Archu is everything to him. As crazy as it sounds ,he always stood firm n so did Archu . Hence in the TRP game ,they kept winning coz CV's showed that love existing always between Arman. In fact I have never seen a male lead cry so much (Manav) equivalent to a female lead . Sushant portrayed it beautifully and they made the Male lead Manav repeatedly miss his Archu so bad and vice-versa that despite the crap being ditched majority of audience were glued to this wonderful pair and wanted them to unite.Its the build up CV's did for their re-union was the key here.Over a period of 1 year they tortured all Arman fans but they made sure that "missing each other" touch was always there whenever possible even in small scenes.I believe CV's success story for the first 2 years of PR for soaring high TRP's was this.This made sure for a grand re-union with soaring high TRP's.The build up CV's did was the main reason for audience really feeling that Arman needed to be with each other. And after re-union again inspite of crap ditched they made sure they hooked up the audience by taking advantage of the real life chemistry of Sushant n Ankita in reel life and they kept winning the TRP game.Now in case of Arvi as many pointed out the current CV's instead of keeping Arvi as parallel track ,they have intertwined them within Arman track. CV's according to me have done blunder by showing Arvi totally victimized over the situation and that "missing each other" touch is missing here. Arman faced nightmarish hell back then but the old CV's had that clever thought of making sure that "missing touch" was always there.Current CV's have done a major blunder by not giving Arvi some time to think about their love life. Arjun is shown too caught in circumstances and all over Ovi and Purvi caught in her Aai - Baba scenario. CV's have not thought of showing scenes where Arjun n Purvi are individually missing each other.I think one way to get TRP;s is if they start showing both of them missing each other on certain situations like Arvi missing each other and remembering each other say when one of them visit Shiv ji temple where it all started I guess.I think unless CV's start doing some justice here for the current generation ,its not going to work. Storyline will always remain crap.The difference is how effectively you use your leads. The current CV's need to take a leap out of old CV's for such scenes and I am sure if missing touch scenes slowly coming up ,then TRP is bound to come up and lot of Arvi fans will be back watching the show. I hope it happens for all Arvi fans sake.😊
Dear Janhvi,Can't expect anything when stating a point of view contrary to yours gets termed as "excuse".Go back and read everything I wrote in this thread about Arjun and tell me where I make an excuse.
Originally posted by: Jaishankar
@Shymala you are welcome my dear. yup I can tell from my experience as a old school Arman/Sushita fan (old school as a fan but young in age though ,Bachelors who is shaping/fine tuning his career 🤣) that the old CV's gave us the opportunity to feel the pain of Arman by showing how much Arman missed each other.The intensity was so deep and the scenes touched everyone's heart.This intensity what got me into PR like many others n to be ardent Arman/Sushita fans.For the first time where in Soaps where male leads dont get much opportunities to express their emotions,Manav character broke those barriers and the emotions portrayed by Manav (Sush) touched so many folks,in fact audience sympathized more with Manav than Archu in the crap scenario ditched.I always felt except for first 6 months of the show ,the PR storyline has been crap . The storyline will remain to be crap but the former CV's used the reel/real chemistry of the lead actors well there and provided them opportunity to portray those emotions. Hence it stuck chord with audience especially those living in chawls of Mumbai - PR was a huge hit among them which brought a different dimension in the TV industry.
The same way when they introduced Arvi ,frankly I think they did not expect it would be such a hit.The actors Asha n RD have done a wonderful job as Arvi that there is a surge of new fan base and now the CV's don't know how to handle it. Its now very important and with recent interview of Asha n RD ,there are positive signs Arvi are coming together again but the imp point here is CV's should provide some build-up so that audience gets a chance to feel their re-union instead of make it all of a sudden n rushed. Hope CV's think n plan it properly.