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Posted: 13 years ago
As far as I am concerned she is just the good that came out of the evil, when she did not give Archu the tickets.


Very well put and exactly what I and Varsha say . We know she has done immoral and illegal thing . But the righteous thing that Archana did ...the so called court case against HUSBAND for a so called RIGHT CAUSE is so WRONG that NOTHING MATTERS NOW . If the ends r good , We r simply ignoring the means nowdays as NOTHING is fair in this serial . Just like Purvi's arrogance ...we now welcome even PUNNI punishing her . Thats the point we have come to after watching unacceptable things .
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Posted: 13 years ago
Thanks because I don't want to come across biased, because it makes my blood boil that Purvi is considered Manav's step-child in far away lands.

It will make the blood boil of many with similiar thoughts

Taya has been commenting on this since a long time , the thought is unacceptable to her that she will displace Ovi Teju

Ovi teju r given no role this upstart has taken over

Its so tiresome

EACH TIME archana has entered Manavs life with a baggage ...Manju , or her psychotic sister , her dominating mother and now this adopted girl who will create nothing but turmoil

And Manav will accept her .
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Posted: 13 years ago
Excellent Posts Kools,

So well put. Yes I know this is a constant issue with Taya and rightfully so. We all feel this way at the end of the day, but who listens to us or care in Ekta's land?

Majority View Rules for EKTA and her Crew:

1. Savita is evil, and has no right to defend her son and his hard earned money. She is wrong to forge signatures on divorce papers,but Archu is right to commit Perjury in court twice, for Bigamy and calling her husband 'Ambitious,' but the majority sees that as 'love,' and love means not having to say sorry, for such small matters. 😔 Yet, Savita should be locked up and the keys thrown away, because her acts are 'Ambitious,' like her son.

2. When you love, there is no need to say sorry, even if that love means suing your husband tearing down his reputation, just to show off to chawl people that you have a mind of your own, even if it means committing Perjury in Court and destroying the good intentions of your husband, Of course, chawl people must stay as such, live in dilapidated buildings and stand in long lines fighting for water daily, cause those are good values and 'Progress is Bad.'
Giving a child that was not produced only by your eggs, to your sister whenever it suits you, and to hell with the consequences and who gives a damn if he is lost or dead. Even if that love means to pass your husband over to another woman, in the name of acting good and Mamta, to hell with what he wants. Having no respect for husband and his feelings and tolerating his Insult constantly from others, especially Mother, but you NEVER have to say sorry, because TRPS shows Majority acceptance of Your BS.😔

3. Sulo is the best Mother, MIL and Grandmother in the world, even though she controls her daughter's life and treats her like 2yrs old, insults and slaps her husband and his family, whenever she pleases. Slapping SIL's nephew reminding him of his 'illegitimate status,' is okay, as long as you Never do it to her 'Real,' Granddaughter, Purvi. No problem if she takes expensive gifts from SIL, and never have to say "thank you," in her actions, while speaking ill of him for 18yrs in that same house, and giving him dirty looks, is looks of love.😡
It is all good if she accepts outside child as Granddaughter and never insist that daughter finds her own and act like a Mother to them.
No problem if she gives outside granddaughter,the Power to expose her 'real,' granddaughter's deeds 'to the world,' even if it means ruining her reputation, no big deal she is one of the best characters in the show.
Never caring about the consequences or trying to find her a Rishta. Yet show up at function for her Rishta, after work was done by Maternal Grandmother, grinning her teeth, like she is the worlds greatest Saint Grandmother...give me a freak🤬 break.


4. Purvi is the 'real,' child of the family and should get more importance than Ovi, Teju and Sachu and obviously Soham. She should be the one to reunite Arman, because she has inherited the right Sanskaars from Saint Archu and Sulo, and the other kids are tainted by Manav and Savita's bad Sanskaars. Purvi should also get Arjun, who was for Ovi, because in Ekta and her like-minded viewers mind, Purvi is really Archu in disguise and should get all the 'rights,' that Archu abused for 24 yrs. Ovi is just one of the children, that Archu felt was not that important to fight for, because Purvi was a 'Gain,' after the loss she inflicted on herself.

5. Purvi is right in practicing arrogance, lack of manners, the lowest of the lowest office etiquette and lack of respect for authority. No sense understanding of how a business should actually operate. Blatant Nepotism for one family member is considered admirable and brave, even if it means endangering the jobs of a whole staff. Spending tons of lakhs on office machinery without permission from authorised personnel, and carrying it to home for training to prove a point to boss, is considered Jhansi Ranki, and one must bow at her feet.

6. Ovi, Teju are nobodies because they have Manav's Bad Sanskaars because they are without the Great Sanskaars of Archu. Ovi is considered a spoilt brat who only yearns for to-be husband, yet Archu's nights and days of mental 'terms of endearment,' acting same age as Ovi, is considered a beautiful thing from a "perfect,' lady.
Teju is just another brat, who beats up boys and has no sense of purpose but to run around India looking for her roots.

7. Sachu is evil because he sides with Savita, who has brainwashed him as a kid upon till now, confusing his life.🤔 We wonder what is his excuse? Sachu has no excuse to resent Archu, because she did him a favour to make him 'legitimate child,' even though it is her family, that caused him to be fatherless. Sachu should never resent Archu for pretending to give over her husband to his Mother, then backing out last minute, and wasting 2yrs of her life. Sachu is evil because he should never resent Archu for 5yrs of supposedly keeping her promise to his Mother to raise him, then backing out for 18yrs of that promise, who cares about the Math.🤓 He should fall at her feet when she emotionally blackmailed him, showing how much Mamta she showered for 5yrs, without her having to say 'sorry.'

8. Manav must not dare to question anything his wife has done to him, because she is the Root of their PR, don't ask questions or expect good actions, just take her word for it. He must never doubt her, never believe she could sign divorce papers, the evidence can never be against her, only against him.

Wow what love, what Sanskaars, what PRs, that Ekta and her like-minded viewers hold as 'Greatness.' and 'Perfect,' values for young and impressionable minds to Grace their Sasurals and for Sane and Educated Viewers to be baffled and angered by daily.









Edited by hillydee - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
excellent post hillye i totally agree with u 100% well no matter how nice ,kind loving, caring, mahan purvi is may be she will unite arman but their is no replacemant of biological child .ARCHANA relation with purvi is different as archana and purvi are together for 18 years archu raise her like ovi teju i understand this but i just cant digest this idea of manav accepting her as daughter i ilke manav to admire her as she unite arman be kind with her but give her same imp as ovi teju this is not acceptable for me i m sounding a bit harsh abt purvi but i m telling this bc of my personal experience.i repeat it again ii will be much better if purvi become manav bahu and they will share same bonding and love like damoder and archana have.
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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: hillydee

Majority View Rules for EKTA and her Crew:

1. Savita is evil, and has no right to defend her son and his hard earned money.
Hillary, I don't think anyone is saying that Savita has no right to defend her son's hard earned money, it's the way she chooses to defend his money that I think is wrong, (and I'm sure many others too.)
If something is illegal, (and it is illegal if there are laws on the books saying so), then it is illegal for everybody. One can't go to court giving excuses for breaking the law and those excuses are accepted.
She is wrong to forge signatures on divorce papers,but Archu is right to commit Perjury in court twice, for Bigamy and calling her husband 'Ambitious,' but the majority sees that as 'love,' and love means not having to say sorry, for such small matters. 😔 Yet, Savita should be locked up and the keys thrown away, because her acts are 'Ambitious,' like her son.
If anyone, (and I'm not amongst them), thinks it was okay for Archana to commit pergury by saying Madhuri's marriage to Dharmesh was fake, then they are wrong. There are certain situations when wrong is wrong. This is one of them. I was one of those who never thought it was right for Archana to ask Madhuri to deny her marriage to Dharmesh so that Vaishali could get legal status as his wife.
Vaishali had enough education to get a good job to look after herself and her child, and I'm sure she could have sough legal means to get financial support for the child.
Anyone who is angry with Savita, (and these are my views), are usually angry because of the means she uses to get her way, either illegal means, by lying, or abusing people, wilfully seesing to harm them. It is a sad day when you have to resort to these means to keep yourself happy.
2. When you love, there is no need to say sorry, even if that love means suing your husband tearing down his reputation, just to show off to chawl people that you have a mind of your own, even if it means committing Perjury in Court and destroying the good intentions of your husband,
I don't think anyone supported Archana in the chawl matter at all. That was just plain wrong.



5. Purvi is right in practicing arrogance, lack of manners, the lowest of the lowest office etiquette and lack of respect for authority. No sense understanding of how a business should actually operate. Blatant Nepotism for one family member is considered admirable and brave, even if it means endangering the jobs of a whole staff. Spending tons of lakhs on office machinery without permission from authorised personnel, and carrying it to home for training to prove a point to boss, is considered Jhansi Ranki, and one must bow at her feet.
Poorvi's actions in the office and towards her boss are wrong and nobody supports such actions and attitudes. Many have said so. This aspect of her character needs to be changed by the CV's because it's not realistic. All this is the fault of Ekta and her CV's.


6. Ovi, Teju are nobodies because they have Manav's Bad Sanskaars because they are without the Great Sanskaars of Archu. Ovi is considered a spoilt brat who only yearns for to-be husband, yet Archu's nights and days of mental 'terms of endearment,' acting same age as Ovi, is considered a beautiful thing from a "perfect,' lady.
I don't know where you got this impression from, but I've yet to see any post where that member just loves all this teenaged type infatuation that Archana keeps dreaming about.
It irritates everybody.

7. Sachu is evil because he sides with Savita, who has brainwashed him as a kid upon till now, confusing his life.🤔
No one considers Sachin evil simply because he sides with Savita.
It's because he's allowing himself to be influenced by Savita into commiting illegal acts.
That is what viewers like me don't like.
He's allowing Savita to use him, and that is sad because he was such a sweet boy.
Sachu should never resent Archu for pretending to give over her husband to his Mother, then backing out last minute, and wasting 2yrs of her life.
Archana didn't pretend, neither did Manav.
Shravani released Manav from his promise just before the ceremony. She told him to go to Archana because she realised that Manav would never love her.
Manav called Satish who in turn told Archana of the latest developments.
Archana had been waiting in her room to marry Jaywant, and only left to go to Manav's mandap on the insistance of Satish.
If Shravani hadn't released Manav from his promise, he and Shravani would have been married and Archana and Jaywant would have been married too.
However, as this is a serial, we all know that even though they may be separated at times, the leads will always end up together, regardless of how we the viewers feel.

8. Manav must not dare to question anything his wife has done to him, because she is the Root of their PR, don't ask questions or expect good actions, just take her word for it. He must never doubt her, never believe she could sign divorce papers, the evidence can never be against her, only against him.
Hillary, no one is saying this at all. Just as Archana doubted him re his signature in the chawl matter, he has the right to doubt her signature in this divorce. They are both wrong for doubting each other in both matters, but no one is saying that Manav must never question Archana on any matter and must simply accept whatever she says or does.
No one loves a mahaan Archana at all.

Wow what love, what Sanskaars, what PRs, that Ekta and her like-minded viewers hold as 'Greatness.' and 'Perfect,' values for young and impressionable minds to Grace their Sasurals and for Sane and Educated Viewers to be baffled and angered by daily.

Hillary, why are you associating Ekta's plots and storylines with some viewers?
Where have you seen viewers liking all that Ekta and her CV's put forth as PR?
If we agree with some of the things that occur in PR, that doesn't mean we should be likened to all that Ekta supports. That is not fair.
By your comment about "Sane and Educated Viewers", are you saying that those viewers who do not agree with you and those who support you, that those viewers are insane and uneducated?
The forum rules state that members should not be attacked for their personal views.
We all will never agree about everything, so one should respect others for their different views, as long as those views respect the forum rules.








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Posted: 13 years ago
The forum rules state that members should not be attacked for their personal views.
We all will never agree about everything, so one should respect others for their different views, as long as those views respect the forum rules.


Sharon I do believe that sensible people absolutely do not endorse her bigamy supporting , racism, lies and many of the atrocious things she does . So you are a part of the SANE and EDUCATED viewers that Hillary talks about . She has respected them for their thoughts ...the above adjectives are NOT for NON FANS but for ALL with sensible views , you being a part of them as u admit that you dont like these things . So where does the question of ATTACK come in ?

I believe Hillary meant that statement for those who support BIGAMY , PERJURY , etc and even by LAW thats wrong . So who is she attacking ? I am frankly puzzled .

We are on ONE side on this one .

I was on The PUNNI ENGAGEMENT THREAD https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/pavitra-rishta/2763253/3-02-12-tv9-punni-engagement-cancelled?pn=6 check this thread out please and see how a member has praised Tanya for her RATIONAL views by constantly emphasizing on the word RATIONAL at least 3 times during my conversation with TANYA . It seems like he loved her posts for the RATIONAL ELEMENT , he made sure to stress it .

Now Can it be inferred that the OTHER PERSON arguing with Tanya [ Me } is IRRATIONAL ?

Does calling her RATIONAL make me IRRATIONAL ? That what the member really meant was MY posts are IRRATIIONAL ? I did not infer it that way .

I did not make an issue of that nor do I see you advising that member to speak carefully as it might offend the other member arguing with Tanya as she may infer that way .{ meaning Me as I was the one debating And someone was constantly interrupting and telling Tanya how RATIONAL her posts were .}

So I fail to see why you are advising ONLY hilly . I would appreciate it if an issue was not made in MY thread alone .








Edited by koolsadhu1000 - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
Sharon,

I was not attacking the viewers, I was throwing my post at EKTA and her crew for being motivated by the Majority Views and not caring about how the Values that she shows are not values liked by others.
Edited by hillydee - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
Please I ask you to stop misunderstanding me and defending other views, that I have Blatantly seen on this forum for months.

I find it tiresome to have to post these views to defend my points, because just yesterday, there was a view, that said 'love means not having to say you are sorry,' and the like button was surely clicked. Saying something like that speaks volumes, after all the backstabbing behaviour and lack of Motherly instincts I have to witness daily by Archana.

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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: hillydee

Sharon,


I was not attacking the viewers, I was throwing my post at EKTA and her crew for being motivated by the Majority Views and not caring about how the Values that she shows are not values liked by others.


I thought so too . I would not dream of disrespecting members like Sharon although we have difference of opinions . But THERE are people out there who r uneducated masses and who DO believe Bigamy etc is a way of life . I do believe Ekta needed to hear this . And I hope we r read . As she mints money by endorsing this purposefully under name of VALUES .
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Posted: 13 years ago
If there is no Support for Bigamy, the Chawl Case, then why are we being attacked just like you are doing for our opinions?

Also, if Purvi behaviour is not supported, then why am I seeing posts that say she is only being independent and highly opinionated and deserves to be with Arjun. There is a whole thread, questioning, why Purv and Arjun romance has not started.

Seriously, Sharon, it is best we don't counteract each other on the threads, because I am tired of being accused of things, where I have see so many evidences, or am I considered one of the irrational viewers. Oh yes I forgot, I don't know the meaning of words, such as "Democracy,' so I am irrational and lack pertinent information that makes Archana's behaviour plausible.

I only speak on issues that I see with my 'FOUR EYES,' I don't make wild assumptions, this a forum where opinions must be based on facts, whether it is abused by subjectivity or not. Facts I deal with, not a figment of my imagination.

If the Majority views that I have made in my Post are lies, then why does PR have the highest TRPS on Zee?
Ekta may write disastrous story lines, but she can only be motivated to continue due to high TRPS, I am sure she is not in this to lose.
Edited by hillydee - 13 years ago

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