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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000

The forum rules state that members should not be attacked for their personal views.
We all will never agree about everything, so one should respect others for their different views, as long as those views respect the forum rules.


Sharon I do believe that sensible people absolutely do not endorse her bigamy supporting , racism, lies and many of the atrocious things she does . So you are a part of the SANE and EDUCATED viewers that Hillary talks about . She has respected them for their thoughts ...the above adjectives are NOT for NON FANS but for ALL with sensible views , you being a part of them as u admit that you dont like these things . So where does the question of ATTACK come in ?

The question of attack comes in because Hillary put forward her views in such a way that one could easily think that she was referring to those who do not support her views in general, e.g. those who do not normally post here or who do not criticise Archana or praise Savita and Sachin to the extent that she does.

If anyone supported what Archana said and did (e.g. lies, perjury etc), then they should be in a very tiny minority, so Hillary could have addressed them personally, or be very firm in stating that when she made those comments, she was not referring to the great majority of members.
I can only respond to how I felt on reading her post. My response to Hillary is genuine because I felt attacked by her comments, especially implying that those who don't think like her are insane and uneducated. I also didn't like how she lumped so many viewers in the same group as Ekta. It implied that if one doesn't agree with how Hillary feels about the show and the characters, then we are in Ekta's camp. That is how I felt upon reading Hillary's comments.
I believe Hillary meant that statement for those who support BIGAMY , PERJURY , etc and even by LAW thats wrong . So who is she attacking ? I am frankly puzzled .

We are on ONE side on this one .

I was on The PUNNI ENGAGEMENT THREAD https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/pavitra-rishta/2763253/3-02-12-tv9-punni-engagement-cancelled?pn=6 check this thread out please and see how a member has praised Tanya for her RATIONAL views by constantly emphasizing on the word RATIONAL at least 3 times during my conversation with TANYA . It seems like he loved her posts for the RATIONAL ELEMENT , he made sure to stress it .

I did read those posts.


Now Can it be inferred that the OTHER PERSON arguing with Tanya [ Me } is IRRATIONAL ?
Yes, that can be inferred.

Does calling her RATIONAL make me IRRATIONAL ? That what the member really meant was MY posts are IRRATIIONAL ? I did not infer it that way .

Well, that is your right to see those posts that way. I simply expressed how I felt after reading Hillary's post.


I did not make an issue of that nor do I see you advising that member to speak carefully as it might offend the other member arguing with Tanya as she may infer that way .{ meaning Me as I was the one debating And someone was constantly interrupting and telling Tanya how RATIONAL her posts were .}
I did not interfere, as I was not involved in that conversation.
I prefer to stay out of other people's involved conversations.
It makes for greater peace on the forum.
In my opinion, it was up to you and/or Tanya to do what you suggested above, if either of you thought it was necessary.
I responded to Hillary's post as it was not addressed to a particular member, nor was she invovled in an ongoing discussion with another member. To me, the situations are different.

So I fail to see why you are advising ONLY hilly . I would appreciate it if an issue was not made of MY thread alone .

As far as I know, any member can comment in any thread.
Once comments are posted, any one can reply, if they so desire.
I'm not seeking to make an issue about any matter.
I was simply expressing my views.
Hillary posted her comments in your thread, so I had to respond here.
The Mods advised a long time ago, (including in the BU thread), to not take issues/matters from one thread, into another thread, so that is another reason why I made these comments in your thread.
If anyone makes comments which I feel like responding to, I do so, regardless of whose thread it is. I just ensure that I stay within the forum rules. If I break them, I have no problem in being corrected, and when I make comments, I always try not to offend or hurt anyone.







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Posted: 13 years ago
Sharon I am in Kools Commentary, I did not even Know you and your like-minded viewers come in this thread. This was for Ekta, please with all due respect Sharon, please end this constant battle of misunderstandings. You make opinions on other threads, that implies that my like-minded viewers are wrong, and I do not rebutt you, because I have already established we do not agree, and rebuttal is senseless.

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Posted: 13 years ago
Viewbie Note: Hillary-People watching a show does not mean they support whatever is being shown. Lets not judge people on basis of what they see. Lets keep the discussion on the topic and on the show. The updated rules of the forum state that no one else's views(other topics) are to be discussed, stick to this topic.
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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: hillydee

Sharon,


I was not attacking the viewers, I was throwing my post at EKTA and her crew for being motivated by the Majority Views and not caring about how the Values that she shows are not values liked by others.

Now that you have explained yourself, I understand, but the way you said it originally, left room for misunderstanding your point of view.
Just a suggestion I have so as to avoid confusion like this in the future...when you are upset with Ekta and her crew, refer to them only. That is waht I always do, because at the end of the day, they are the only ones responsible for what is happening in PR. We the fans and viewers have no control over the contents of PR, so it will create less confusion if you don't mention the viewers in the way you did in your original post.
You are correct in being concerned about the impressionable young viewers in partucular, so it is good if you address your comments to Ekta in this regad.
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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000


I thought so too . I would not dream of disrespecting members like Sharon although we have difference of opinions . But THERE are people out there who r uneducated masses and who DO believe Bigamy etc is a way of life . I do believe Ekta needed to hear this . And I hope we r read . As she mints money by endorsing this purposefully under name of VALUES .

Happy to see this response Kools. You can read my above response to Hillary to see where I was coming from.
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Posted: 13 years ago
With all due respect Mods, I was aiming my opinions to Ekta and her people, this thread is for us to discuss how we feel and hope Ekta sees that there is a world out there besides her high TRPS.

I felt offended when my post is being attacked, when I roam all threads and see the views daily, this I summarise is the reason for the High TRPS.

Everytime, I make a post, it is being accused of make false allegations, and this is the second time Sharon, is doing this to me. Please understand my position.

However, I respect your comment.

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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: hillydee

Sharon I am in Kools Commentary, I did not even Know you and your like-minded viewers come in this thread. This was for Ekta, please with all due respect Sharon, please end this constant battle of misunderstandings. You make opinions on other threads, that implies that my like-minded viewers are wrong, and I do not rebutt you, because I have already established we do not agree, and rebuttal is senseless.


With all due respect Hillary, all members are entitled to visit any thread in the forum.
Not because members do not reply in a thread, it does not mean they do not read the comments.
I read many comments in many threads, but do not reply to the majority of posts that I do not agree with, just so that there can be as much peace as possible in the forum, because some members get very upset when others disagree with them.
If you post comments, you should expect that some people will disagree with you. That does not mean you are right or wrong, or they are right or wrong. We all are entitled to our opinions, as long as we pay heed to the forum rules.
What constant battles of misunderstandings is there? I hardly respond to posts in Kools thread, so what constant battles are you referring to?
With reference to my opinions on other threads, when I give my opinion, I'm not saying that others should not feel differently. or that my views are the correct ones. If you feel so, then you are wrong. I'm only expressing my view on different matters. You are free to express your views too, and there's no problem if your views differ to mine. I've never said those whose views are different to mine are wrong to hold such views. That statement is absolutely incorrect.
Are you saying that if someone's view is different to another person's views, that they should not discuss any matters at all between them?
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Posted: 13 years ago
A lot of things are said to Ekta , a living person , on many threads in this forum , including Brief Update Thread . We dont report neither do mods correct .

Hilly made a post suggesting blatant nonsense should not be passed off as sanskaars . Her post is WARNED . I am ZAPPED .

Is not India ...the masses there in villages etc largely uneducated still and DO think bigamy is a way of life and RACISM like Indians alone have sanskaars and foreigners Don't etc is REAL .

Their ignorance is EXPLOITED was the gist of Hilly's post , Never was her purpose to ATTACK anyone . It was a very REAL post . Where does question of judging anyone comes in ? Ekta Kapoor HERSELF states in interviews that she targets the MASSES , not the ELITE and yes many of them are ignorant and uneducated .

The Educated ones will NEVER agree with bigamy , racist comments , aborting on impulse etc

I thought it was UNDERSTOOD . So While i respect this warning I am also very disappointed .

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Edited by koolsadhu1000 - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: hillydee

Sharon I am in Kools Commentary, I did not even Know you and your like-minded viewers come in this thread. This was for Ekta, please with all due respect Sharon, please end this constant battle of misunderstandings. You make opinions on other threads, that implies that my like-minded viewers are wrong, and I do not rebutt you, because I have already established we do not agree, and rebuttal is senseless.


oh hilly di i totally agree with u ... now people hav started invading KC also
we never go on BU thread any time to create nuisance & ruckus there
mods now will we hav atleast 1 thread to discuss freely ????
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Posted: 13 years ago
Respected Mods,

We do understand why that comment came from You and we respect that too,
we will leave it here itself so that Peace prevails and Hope everyone does so also...

But then Just wish to say our side of POV too and our disappointment...
Hope it doesn't come out or take it in a wrong sense...


As I see the Hilly di post,
It wasn't aimed at the Viewers or the members here at all...
It wasn't for the members at Forum...

We all know that we have been disgusted with the current storylines ditched out,But even then if the TRPS are high and Ekta and her crew are still continuing to ditch out such disgusted ones, then it means there are viewers who do support it, watch it and take all her craps...

Thats is what the Great Ekta and her Cvs think... that the great masses out there support it though that was not the case...

So as we thought IF is one of powerful forums and we do have a say in it such that it is read and may Ekta and her crew Know that there are viewers who doesn't go with this also and not wish to take all craps...

That is what Hilly di meant is what I feel...
Her purpose of that post was to say that feel...

Hope i didnt go overboard anywhere...
I say all the above with due respect...

If anything is wrong i am sorry...


Edited by umayal - 13 years ago

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