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umayal

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Posted: 14 years ago

#141

Originally posted by: lunza

and what we want to see in manav .. they show it in satish 😆

Exactly Lunza. Instead of sathish,if it was manav who put a foot down yesterday for soham then i would have been more happy

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koolsadhu1000

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Posted: 14 years ago

#142

I don't buy this argument for a moment that Archana could not bear Varsha's taunts and went into depression and decided to give up the baby .

I honestly kept this POV in mind as I watched the episode and I shook my head , I could not accept it .

Why ? Coz Archana has the hide of a rhinoceros . Shravani taunted her so much , she ignored her as if she ws a mad woman screaming , smiled , and did EXACTLY wht she wanted without budging . So strong Archana IS and CAN BE .

Varsha toh is her SISTER . She is USED to her temper , bitchiness and tantrums . ALL her life . How much Varsha had taunted her about Manav this and that ...Archana wud smile and DISMISS it and give haldi kunku and what not .

She knows exactly HOW TO DISMISS . She is master at it .

And now suddenly she is this sensitive ? Wohi Varsha , Wohi Taunts .

Where was this sensitivity to MANAV as a husband when he said he MISSES his child after coming from office ? How thick skinnedly she ignored it and pleaded her sister's case ?

Sensitivity does NOT come in one day . Its either in one's character or it isn't . It is NOT in ANY of K sisters ...not at all in Archana .

If she CHOSE to be sensitive at this juncture it looks hypocritical .

What is crazy is giving child away for 3 years and then giving it away in just one day for so called temporary reasons ...I cannot quieten it down indeed .

Even the males like Satish made more sense ...SO WHAT , JUST AS HE GOT USED TO U HE WILL GET USED TO ARCHANA , he said very rightly .But these females ...Varsha and Archana were purposefully making a BIG ISSUE about Soham's crying . What a laugh .

Crying does not kill a baby . Mothers handle kids crying ALL their life .

If this is her capacity to be a mother I pity her ,

Voicing my thoughts guys , plzz dont mind ok . Track over , Leap starting but Had to give MY POV before I moved on with my comments to new track .😊

Edited by koolsadhu1000 - 14 years ago

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umayal

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Posted: 14 years ago

#143

Kool Di and Nikki 😊,
all your posts were so nice.I enjoyed reading both your views.

Actually for me,I dont know where i stand and agree with whom.😕

Because when I see the scene where she said i have decided,after so much thought and let soham be with varsha and Manav simply nodded not given a thought against it and when he said archu was right,I was so mad at them. I felt like killing her entering the screen. even i told my friend this.with her past history i was mad at her for this statement.

But when i see the scene where she cries on the taunt from varsha being the fittest mom to soham,and the scenes yesterday which tell why she decided this,I felt ok with her.

so I was so confused about archu😕.

Hope this track ends here for the goodwill of soham and the CVs doesnt show varsha making attempts to get him back again and archu giving him on a platter to varsha because of her love for sister.

Oh I forgot to say that.I loved sathish yesterday.😊

Edited by umayal - 14 years ago

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koolsadhu1000

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Posted: 14 years ago

#144

Umi My views r ONLY for this track . Tomorrow if they show Varsha kidnapping Soham like Glen Close in Fatal attraction I will blast her of course .

In this track I advocated Soham NOT being disrupted from his secure cocoon simply for two reasons

His parents seemed uninterested in him

He was allowed to languish with another woman for 3 years

So fine , at least SHE developed attachment for him . Theek hai , let him be then .

That was my POV , bas . Then people started saying V is not good mother material . To that I said where is Archana good mother material ? She gives baby away when she is NURSING him with Breast milk and decides to give him away later coz she cannot handle his crying even for a night ?

sorry , these seem faltoo excuses to me and speak poorly for the character .

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Nikita Lakhe

@nikitagmc

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Posted: 14 years ago

#145

Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000

sorry , these seem faltoo excuses to me and speak poorly for the character .

Kools, I am sorry but I had to speak in here. If you are going to dismiss others POV as faltoo excuses made for a character or justify someone else, then I think there is no point in having a debate.

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koolsadhu1000

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Posted: 14 years ago

#146

Originally posted by: nikitagmc

Kools, I am sorry but I had to speak in here. If you are going to dismiss others POV as excuses made for a character or justify someone else, then I think there is no point in having a debate.
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You should clarify with me before jumping to conclusions please .

I am not dismissing others POVS as excuses made for a character . I am talking of ARCHANA strictly ...and if indeed the CVS are showing THIS as a excuse for HER behaviour . WHIch , after reading your post I did agree with .Indeed CVS WERE trying to show THAT only ...That she sunk into some depression and was suddenly sensitive . They seemed to succeed and many DID see it that way . To THAT I am saying that sorry , I cannot buy these excuses as they dont go with what HER character AT ALL . She has a history of a THICK SKIN .

So next time , ASK me WHAT i meant , please . I do NOT dismiss others POV , I give my own . A lot was said about her depression , this is open forum , I tried to see it from that POV and gave my thoughts bas .

There really is no need to take offense . I can show u far more offensive posts which are completely ignored . Why is it pointed out to me when all I am doing is just giving my candid views ?

Whether people want to debate with me or not is their choice . I dont force anyone . I made it clear yesterday itself I am voicing MY thoughts on depression issue .

Nothing more to add .

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Nikita Lakhe

@nikitagmc

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Posted: 14 years ago

#147

I am not taken unnecessary offence- if I had to take offence I would not have posted at all. I said what I understood on reading your post. Here is what you had posted.

Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000
That was my POV , bas . Then people started saying V is not good mother material . To that I said where is Archana good mother material ? She gives baby away when she is NURSING him with Breast milk and decides to give him away later coz she cannot handle his crying even for a night ?

sorry , these seem faltoo excuses to me and speak poorly for the character .

The above words were what I said Kools. This was my interpretation- my personal one, not anything that the CV's are trying to show or anything like that. And you yourself said 'then people started saying' and 'these' excuses. And anyway, when have we ever tried to follow the CV's interpretation? We have always interpreted characters ourselves.

I thought you know me that much by now that I don't take offence easily and that too in debate. If something has hurt me now, its bcos there was a reason behind it. And this time I felt genuinely bad.

Fine, I'm sorry. Continue your discussion. Sorry to butt in.

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koolsadhu1000

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Posted: 14 years ago

#148

Your personal interpretation can be exactly the effect CVS intend to have ...it was from my POV , the popular interpretation ...the ones CVS intended to convey . I saw that in your explanation and I saw the episode keeping it in mind and I found the excuses given by CVS as flimsy keeping characterization in mind .

What we interpret from character's actions is often what CVS try to convey only . 80% DO interpret exactly the way CVS want it interpreted .

And thats what I saw in YOUR explanation . What THEY expected ...the popular reaction .

Well I could not agree coz if by these incidents and excuses this reaction was expected , it defeats the characterization .

There is a very thin line between popular interpretation and intent of CVS . I DO interpret CVS And I DO this by reading popular opinion . You said yesterday YOURS was NOT the popular opinion but I disagree . It WAS . i saw it that way . I have no cause to lie when I say this , nor am I being defensive .

What I MOST emphatically HATE is belittling others VIEWS. I don't like dismissing even the most opposite view .

I hope now that I made myself clear , this can be put behind . Whether you feel like debating with me in future or no is your decision . Will respect it .

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Nikita Lakhe

@nikitagmc

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Posted: 14 years ago

#149

I accept your answer Kools. We end the matter here.

But next time, please make it clear whether you are criticising CV's or people.. Sorry to say your first post did not make me feel you wanted to say anything about the CV's, cos even the word CV was not there. I could only see 'then people said' and 'faltoo excuses'. Of course, you might have meant it differently, and the whole matter was my mistake. But please be a little more clear with words for everyone to avoid such issues, so that I don't 'jump to conclusions' next time, cos I can't know beforehand what you are thinking, or what the other meaning behind your words is, or what you are interpreting, right? I will toh only understand on the basis of what you write in your post.

Once again, sorry and this matter ends from my side.

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Dabulls23

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Posted: 14 years ago

#150

Varsha had no business asking Archu to take Soham for a day than keeping for 3+ yrs. Archu had no brain to let her take him and letting her keep him for this long. Wrong wrong wrong.

Neither are right IMHO. CVs change characters and storyline each day to justify their jobs. They should be fired for butchering so many characters and a wonderful show how it started out with. Essence of the show Pavitra Rishta is gone.

Edited by Dabulls23 - 14 years ago