Kool Comments : Dharmesh issue Edited note pg 15 - Page 8

Originally posted by: viram

Hi Kools. Cudnt post my views yesterday. Phew!!! Relieved that the Batats bahndaphod fiasco is done with> How they had dragged it for months. !!!

One would have expected fireworks during such a fiasco. But waht a damp squib it was. I suppose Sulo can return the unused pumps to the medical shop now that she has toughened up a lot. 😉😆. I expected Batats to be slapped by Sulo ,Varsha or Vinod ( I dont know if he was present on the scene). But nothing seems to have happened.

Vaishu is in hot waters .She had been acting like a moron all these days. In fact as we discussed earlier looks like CVs want to show it as a karmic punishment for her for being so rude to Arman. She saw what was actually not there(in manav's case : the theft ,Arman's elopement etc) .She was as blind as a bat when it came to batat's true self.She was totally blind to every thing that was happening right under her nose. She still hasn't realised it and she will when Manju starts taunting her day and night.

I also strongly support you that she should make Batat's pay for the child's upkeep.(let me make it clear that I am not blindly toeing your line nor am I supporting you becoz you are Kools or that I am afraid to upset you !!!! You know how I differ from you on so many issues. ).

If people like Batats are allowed to go scot free imagine what the world would be like. !! If a woman is not supposed to take any financial help from her ex -husband what would happen to all those women who are divorced due to their husband's fault and abandoned by their husbands ????We let such men off the hook and they go on ruining many more lives.? ? Who wants to wait for nature to take its own course ? Batat needs to be made to realize his mistake of ruining two women's and two children's lives.

The question of self respect doesn't arise at all. She anyway cannot live with this bigamist again. But she must get her child what is due. Going by what some say on this forum they r the women with no self respect then . What to say .

It was really hilarious to read that Archu was stopping Vaishu from removing the mangal sutra. Does Archu have Alzheimer's or short term memory loss???😆.How can she forget how she removed her mangalsutra when her mother was not happy with the marriage with manav the first time??Archana wants Vaishali to go back to Dharmesh viram . Just u wait and watch .

And why does she talk as if she wants vaishu to go back to batat?? Sickening !!!

Wish they end this misery of Savita and vandu. Let them see good times.Put an end to their sufferings CVs

Originally posted by: malinn

What surprises me..... Is that on this forum there are people who are so convinced about their own thinking being right, that they give no allowance for the possibility of another possibility or thought process......which they simply discard as wrong or incorrect....

There would be hundreds of thousands of women who would agree that taking money from Dharmesh would be the right thing to do...... And an equal number of women who would find that it hurts their self respect and dignity and self worth to take a dime from such a man ....

Let me give an example here...... Women in the West wear white on their wedding day as a sign of purity...... In India, pure white is worn by widows......

Think about it..... There have been some wonderful arguments for and against each pov and all I can say is that I feel richer and wiser for having participated.......

Now my definition and yours about rich is sure to differ.... But that's another story.....

If its war thats needed......then let there be war.....albeit one of words only....

This was the exact writing of yours, to which I objected:

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...Madhuri chose to only focus on acuiring help for Varun and NOT stop the financial flow . I wud not Judge her . Coz guys See what happens to Vaishu now .........I dont see a rosy picture for her . Madhuri was practical enough not to take him to a point where he wud DROP all financial responsibility as she had no other options .

When Manav walked upto him and taunted him that today he was more GAREEB than even him coz he had lost out on everything ....his Rishtas like Mom , Wife , sasural , Satish and wud later encounter Business losses also .

Why was Manav taking out PERSONAL KHUNNAS and taunting about GAREEB etc in such a moment of crisis ...........was that the time to strut and taunt ? Shudnt Manav be focussing only on Vaishus problem ? Manav only suceeded in turning him UGLIER . He actually walked out with head held high , leaving all the Karanjkars open mouthed .

Clever , Clever Dharmu . Practical to the last and not wasting a moment on DEFEAT or REMORSE but turning EVERY situation on the opponents and walking away victorious .That day on terrace Dharmu turned the tables on Archana and told her to shut up and join him in hiding his truth coz HER sister wud be at loss .Today the moment all broke relations with him , he disclaimed financial responsibility coz he still has HIS finances and a family ..Madhuri , Varun and perhaps a second child .

What a villain . Very bad one , but immensely practical . The Stupid Karanjkars cud learn a thing or two by sitting at his feet .

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Now, you will agree with me.....whether this above paras screams mercenery and materialistic.....you have written words of .....great appreciation for Dharmesh, since his mercenery mind is practical and better to survive in this world.....

According to the above.....you would have Vaishali be more practical like Madhuri....so that the money flow does not stop......UHHHH......I guess I do think I would have more self respect and prefer to leave such a man....than to be with him simply for the flow of money......

You will be surprised Kool, at how many people agree with this view.....as opposed to yours.... But then again, I don't really expect you to agree.......No issues there.....I can see both sides - for the both of us......

Originally posted by: simmy78

I so wanted to keep out of the discussions and remain the silent reader. But I am drawn to share something.

My best friend has an elder sister and both of them were raised by their single mom because the father died. They lived with their father's brother because the mom did not feel safe to raise girls alone in India. The uncle and his wife abused the girls and their mother on a daily basis but they kept quiet because of the Mom. The younger one (my friend) was the daring one and she fought every time the uncle abused but her options were limited too. So she also focussed on her education and took loans and came to the US. Now she has a steady job and an independent life. Now she supports her Mom, pampers her, brings her to the US and basically they have a gala time. She supports her uncle's family too. Slowly this is helping the Mom to become strong and stand up to uncle because she feels her own is there to support her now. But her sister just gave in to all the abuse and did not fight or focus on her self development. She is living a stable life too, but her marriage and her in laws and her life now, is not of her preference.

The younger one waited patiently and focused on her self development, took the money from the uncle to support her education, bore all the abuse but did not let her self development stop. So now she has a deep sense of self respect because the independence and freedom is giving wings to the self respect feelings.

The elder one did not want to take uncle's money because she was scared and did not want to upset him more (I know Vaishu's reasons are diff). But the bottom line is that she feels even more sad and helpless in life on a daily basis. She does not have courage to stand up to abuse done by in laws.

I know the Vaishali case is diff here. But life has certain moments where you have to gulp down your pride, do whats best for the present so the future can be what you want it to be. Closing down options impulsively sometimes has big costs. It had in my friend's sister's case.

Facing deep adversity myself and having met so many diff people over the course of my life, I have come to believe one thing - Our experiences govern our thinking and shape our choices. those you have seen the tough side of life end up thinking practically too along with only idealistically. Those who have been blessed to stay away from tough adversity (I am not talking about usual ups and downs) have the luxury of idealistic thinking alone.

In this case its not even a matter or self respect or idealistic view point. Its pure birthright of a child on both the parent's resources. Vaishu has a right on both her parents whether Manju likes it or not and her child has a right on Dharmu whether Vaishu likes it or not.

Originally posted by: simmy78

Those who have been blessed to stay away from tough adversity (I am not talking about usual ups and downs) have the luxury of idealistic thinking alone.

In this case its not even a matter or self respect or idealistic view point. Its pure birthright of a child on both the parent's resources. Vaishu has a right on both her parents whether Manju likes it or not and her child has a right on Dharmu whether Vaishu likes it or not.