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gaurimisha

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Posted: 14 years ago

#61

Its my long-standing wish....one of the ladies give a nice thapad to mannu darling...know ARchu wont...wish phoons wud....I wud seriously vote for her if she does tht.😆

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omshreejaanu

@omshreejaanu

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Posted: 14 years ago

#62

Originally posted by: sherma
thanks yar,atlest sumbody agreed wid me.i dont understnd y people tink i am anti armaan or am i luv wid shravani,i dont watchd show either for pooja or ankita or even sushita. i wtch dis only for sushant,wen i being such a big sushant fan is anti manav cause he is wrong,and nothing can b justified in manav part.i just wanted him to tlk to shravani, never mentioned any were i want him to get married to shravani although i was hoping for arjay marriage cause i find jay hot.but every1 just disagreeing wid me as if i am telling manav to sleep wid shravani.i jst wnted him to tlk to her before and nthing else.d reason y i want him to tlk,i know many peopl wont agree here again but shravani was being gud to every d memeber,she was playing a role of being a perfect bahu. and as evn u mentioned in ur post she has never cheated manav ever, she deserve a explanation.

@ Bold
I'm sorry Advocate i think u r hinting at me n i was very undiplomatic in my talk. Not my intention though coz i normally dont post nasty comments on ppl 2 hurt intentionally. Btw Saffy also says i write PR thesis n i feel she also writes it too though like a car with failing brakes😆😆 thats why i wrote that but i guess i was not very xplicit. Again my apology.

@ Sherma
Darling me too i'm not Armaan or Archu ki deewani. May b u dont know i was 4 Arjay marriage too some time bak coz i find the guy hot too😳 n even wrote a version of PR with Arjay n Archu changing him n him falling in love genuinely with her.
U'll also notice that i also said Armaan shud b 2gether if they lov each other but shud apologise 2 Shrav coz they goofed up, esp Manav ,trying 2 b God when they r simply humans.
1 thing we differ i admit is that i just dont like the character Shrav (may b coz i think she is a mother above all n her priority shud hav been her son n his future n security not her running after a man who cares a penny 4 her n as i said all the time, 4 me thousands men kurbaan 4 my kids , my POV of course) n never ever imagined Manav- Shrav marriage i dunno why😕
Other than I'm 1 of the romantic fools around here n i'm waiting 4 the reunion like many else😃

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koolsadhu1000

@koolsadhu1000

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Posted: 14 years ago

#63

Hey Jaanu u dont hafta apologise to me at all ...................love to ur badmash company😊

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Jasmine10

@Jasmine10

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Posted: 14 years ago

#64

Agree with you all who think that shravani at least deserves an apology for the two life spent in the deshmukh family. Manav may marry Archu to save her as it is last resort left . it doesn't look planned , so after another put of sindoor in the heat of the moment Mrs and Mr Manv deshmukh can ask for forgiveness. that would give sharavani chance to walk out.

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bee5

@bee5

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Posted: 14 years ago

#65

Originally posted by: pallai
@bee5
very good post.. agree to most of it.. though i feel that shravani choose to stay with savita during her pregnancy out of need rather than logic. see she doesnt have mother.. she just lost her fiancee, she is pregnant.. her father wants her to abort her baby.. given the circumstances she might have felt more secure being around women ( mother like figure ) and remember savita was good to her always.. so she choose to live in D house as such her dad was travelling it was better she had some support incase of a emergency.. ofcourse we can question that she might have had relatives but that was not clearly shown and also she was supposed to have come from US so may be she had no one here...
she was being promised a marriage so she choose to stay there. i tthink it makes perfect sense.. many plp in forum argue and belittled her saying staying there without marriage...
in that respect it was archu who shld be ashamed she styed with manav even though no one wanted her to.. just on the pretex of doing for varsha marriage...
1 big thing shravani lacked was strong family support.. she just had a dad and he too was busy with her bussiness. unlike archu who had sulo /siblings to guide and support she has no one to counsel.. her.. girish did wat he thought was best for her.. given those circumstances i think she did take the best decisions..though i wanted her to leave for good when she caught arman in rain ...
anyways.. waiting to see how they are gng to handle her exit ( or wll she leave the show yet !?? )

pallai,
Thank you.
I understand you explaining about the logic part that I questioned. Whatever I am writing is nothing against you. But that is your explanation .. similarly I can also explain myself .. but the CVs did not explain that. That was such an important part of the storyline that CVs had to explain and they never did.

Shravani was a motherless child, was educated in the US, lived independently, chose social service/teaching profession, teachers really have great courage and on that Shravani was teaching elder people, which is even more difficult, came from a rich family. People generally flock towards those who have money, her father could've bought her THE BEST professional nurse to take care, she was bold enough to not give-in to her father's demands that she should get abortion (initially), that all together makes Shravani such a bold and a strong-willed woman, but the CVs spoiled it.

Shravani knows very well Savita is of no-one. Shravani herself has "caught" her red-handed trying to wear Shravani's jewels, but she chose to ignore always, she also knows that Savita is good to her only bcos of money, but atleast the CVs have never shown Shravani take advantage of that "weakness" of Savita. That is one very good thing until now they have done for Shravani.

I'm not refuting that Shravani doesn't desire to have a mother figure in her life, but in which Maharashtrian Hindu caste is it acceptable for the to-be bride to live in the groom's house unless she is an orphan or a relative(cousin) who lived in that household from childhood? There were so many options like you too have written, but the CVs took an easy route, all they wanted was these 3 folks (Archu, Manav, Shravani) under 1 roof so that
Archu and Shravani fight over Manav like he was the "roti" in the 2-monkeys-and-a-roti- story, so they pulled a quick-one without much explanation and never went back to that even once. That is all I'm saying.

When the story-tellers leave something for the audience to explain/understand then IMO they have failed there. I feel the CVs themselves were never convinced with that part themselves and hence never ever ventured to that "grey" area. If they wanted they could just do that in the most simplest manner - have some other character like Savita, Archu or anyone else utter those 2 lines why Shravani was living there and I would not have questioned. Whether I like the explanation or not, atleast I know they did that, but in this regard they never did and that is what I was pointing towards - missing logic. 😊

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Niharika

@Nihariikaa

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Posted: 14 years ago

#66

Originally posted by: sherma
if i wld be in archu place wldnt even look at a guy like manav who leaves his wife for sum other women,nor wil i every respect a women like savita,i dont understnd y people want shravan to tke a stnd, y not armaan,hav not yet seen him saying savita or shravani ta iwont marry shravani,he just claims he luvs archu and den get divorce to her. shrav luvs manav so she is staying bck and tking all kind of insult by manav,if i wld b in shrav placeor archu place wld hav left manav a long time ago.i am not against armaan to unite i just want him to tlk and covince shravani apologise to her for mking her wait for 2 yrs. shrav wasnt d one who was mking her own story tat manav will get married to her.it was manav who tld he will marry her so she is waiting for him.

totally agree with u.
It was them ( repeatedly)who made her trust that he will take her reposibility. but when they are not going to make up it, then certainly Shravani needs an answer.

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Niharika

@Nihariikaa

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Posted: 14 years ago

#67

Originally posted by: bee5

Niha,
So, here we meet! I do watch the show and come here to the PR forum only when the time permits.
1st of all, I would not trust these articles on this subject. Each one writes something and sometimes so dis-jointed. Also because the CVs themselves wouldn't have chalked out clearly what they really want to do and would've just shot the promos so that it can be shown on TV and increase the curiosity of the viewers(as well as the non-viewers) Next, the promos aren't showing much - I saw the promo where Archu had come to shopping with Jaywant and Archu sees Manav and Archu-Manav get into a bus. But are they going to get married? Even if they get married, will the family accept it? Will Savita keep quiet? Will Sulo keep quiet? Will Jaywant keep quiet? Are they really going to ELOPE?!

PR's TRPs are going low and low and from the episode of Nov 1st, with the PR's montage change of Archu lighting the diwali lamps, they are doing diwali's dhamaka one after the other - 1st it was Vaishali breaking up and coming home, next it was Varshu's high-voltage tiff with Bhavna Tai, Varshu's abortion, Ajit-Manav's effort to bring-out the real face of Jaywant, Shravani listening-in, Shravani's declaration that she will GRAB her "rights".. the list goes on ... So, to get back the TRPs (the viewing public) they hurriedly are doing this reunion (oh! the reunion IMO is long delayed and thats a totally different thing.)
So, with today's Dharmesh-Vaishali's patch-up .. doesn't it look like these CVs didnot have any other plan so they made them patch-up ... so, that break-up tamasha was soooo not required and waste of time that they dragged their side of the drama for 10 days!
It is yet to be seen if they want the viewers to go through 1 more divorce and that of Satish and Varsha! I was stunned to see Archu persuade Sulo aai to forgive Varshu as if she just broke an expensive ceramic plate or something ... 😡 and that she needed to be fed by spoon to eat bfast etc ... The most funny part for me was Varshu starting to wear cotton-saris right after the break-up with Satish (madam always used to walk-around only in the designers saris prior to that in Satish's house!) Oh for TRPs they had to show this abortion part?! 😡😡
I only like Satish's character in this show .. hope the CVs don't spoil that character!

Archu and Manav both know they love each other .... so why this drama of responsibility and zimmedari ..? So, did Manav think that he would not sleep with Shravani after marriage with her or did he think that he is going to sleep with her as a 'zimmedari' too ? Same goes for Archu .. What are these people thinking? Why play with 3 more lives (Shravani, Sachin & jaywant) and give so much torture to their respective parents/relatives?! Earlier when Shravani gave-up and went away, Archu wanted to become mahaan and backed-off at the final moment, when their entire family wanted them to marry. They have to marry and its long over-due but ELOPEMENT ..??? I too don't understand.
But I don't really feel that bad for Shravani. I still do not understand what was the need for her to be living in Savita's house during her pregnancy .. it was so stupid of the CVs, so illogical. Yeah Manav agreed to marry her .. but she knows in the hearts-of-hearts that Manav will never ever love her .. so why is she fighting a losing battle? yeah she was good to Archu earlier (when Sachin was alive) and doesn't brag about being rich etc ... but I do not like the fact that she wants to "fight" for Manav. I would've preferred if CVs did not spoil her character and kept her character as she was before. (Somehow I don't like when CVs spoil characters and play with them, agree person doesn't remain the same always ... but all of a sudden making shravani forget Sachin and fighting for manav was really looking so out-of-place for shravani's character .. I will simply blame the CVs for that.) And as for Archu-Manav not telling her .. it could be because Shravani had declared in front of Manav that she is going to fight tooth-n-nail to get married this time to Manav and she isn't going to give up her "rights", So, probably Manav might convey that to Archu and they might decide we cannot ELOPE if we inform Shravani?! 😉

....ok, whatever, I wouldn't believe a thing until I watch the show. 😊

Hi bee, long time na.😊
nice post👏 agree with u.
actually it was excatly not the article which made me question this. when i read the article long back from when i saw the promo even i posted the comment " good for them"....but seeing the promo which made me remind the article again and made me to post my views as "why".....but now i better wait before saying anything like that till i get to read the update.😆

agree with u that CV's have totally ruined characters, i would say especially the leads. i try to see the episode not through the characters say, but thought the CV's POV. thats why i think why CV's plot these scenes so illogically. the two character which were shown to be Mahaan and now being dumped like anything.

They were the ones who showed Manav to be a Mahaan soul and accepted the resposibility of shravani, inspite of his love towards Achu. but now what?? where is concern towards shravani now. If he cannot take the resposibilty then why did he take and moreover i dont understand his attitude towards shravni, sometimes i think with what right he shows that much of attitude to shrav?

and also Archu, another Mahaan soul, when she brought back shrav from the station a very bad decision she made then and told them she wont enter into their lives, but now she's doing the same thing, Does Archu realize that? No, i dont think so? Even she doesnt care for the feeling of Shrav?

and Varshu, it was shocking to see Varshu took such an abrupt decision without consulting her husband, i thought she atleast has that respect for her husband, but no.
yeah Satish is the one who is left, hope they dont spoil his character too.

but i have little diff opinion on Shravani leaving their house.
Sravani was about to become their DIL but Sachin passed away, meanwhile shravani got pregnant. i would say, yes she did make a mistake there and she wanted the baby as Sachins memory. even the DM's didnt deny. they still accept her as DIL.
So i dont see why Shrav have to leave the house, even if she's not married to Manav, she can stay untill their inlaws through her out. but they wont and also they are not doing any favour for her because its their selfissness here, that they want Sachu with them.

Its a TV show, Armaan are the Hero and Heroine, and at the end of the day, def they will be the one who will Unite. but the drag has gone to the core that no wonder PR's TRP is falling abruptly.
Lets see how CV's use their creativity to pull up their TRP's.

first of all till now Arman had not any confrontations that they want to marry each other. reading the article and some posts on the forum it made be believe that Arman are going to unite, now dont know how true it might be?
Now a question pops inside my head, Is Manav going to stop the wedding of Archu-Jay because he loves her and wants to marry her or he's doing it to save Achu from Jay????? and when he still have his confused pending decision whether to marry sharvani or not??????

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koolsadhu1000

@koolsadhu1000

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Posted: 14 years ago

#68

Shravani was a motherless child, was educated in the US, lived independently, chose social service/teaching profession, teachers really have great courage and on that Shravani was teaching elder people, which is even more difficult, came from a rich family. People generally flock towards those who have money, her father could've bought her THE BEST professional nurse to take care, she was bold enough to not give-in to her father's demands that she should get abortion (initially), that all together makes Shravani such a bold and a strong-willed woman, but the CVs spoiled it.

I'm not refuting that Shravani doesn't desire to have a mother figure in her life, but in which Maharashtrian Hindu caste is it acceptable for the to-be bride to live in the groom's house unless she is an orphan or a relative(cousin) who lived in that household from childhood

that is what I was pointing towards - missing logic. 😊

For me it is exactly opposite ..........I see no logic whatsoever in DENYING HELP when it is offered on a platter to u when u r in such a delicate , controversial position . Everyone keeps saying Shravani shud have stayed seperate , Shravani shud have brought the child up on her own , just like single moms do . All that is very well , but she HAD AN OPTION . And why she should NOT take the option is beyond me . Here in the US single moms r urged by government counsellors , social services etc to TAKE ALL THE HELP BY LEARNING TO ASK FOR IT . DON"T BE ASHAMED TO ASK HELP is the ADVICE . And she was offered help willingly without any expectation from her side by her fiancee's family . Her fiancee's brother offered to marry her and share responsibility in upbringing of child and his family stood by her staunchly offering their support and help .........why SHOULDN"T SHE TAKE IT ? When Help is available , WHY DENY IT ? Makes No sense to me at least .

Why opt for a babysitter when Grandmotherly love is available ? A Home atmosphere is available ? Savita took care of her like a mother . Why shouldn't she take this help and opt to 'show society ' instead how sINGLE MOMS LIVE ? Her goal was never setting a social example .........he goal was bringing SAcjhins child in the world and if his family supported her happily enough , she accepted it happily enough ..it was as simple as that . If she had no options it wud be a different story ...but the fact remains SHE HAD . And if she HAD , why deny it ?makes no logic to me ! Today here in the US I raise my kids all by myself and its really strenuous .........But tomorrow if I go to India and i get such help from my sasural or maayka why wud I say No ?

As Far as which Maharastrian Hindu Gal wud stay like this for two years goes .........I don't think any caste Gal wud stay like this ..........Be it Bengali , Gujrati , Punjabi . But Hers was a special case ......her fiancee DIED tragically . And her Fiancees family accepted her and stood by her . Maharashtrian Hindus r a very understanding caste and they do make special allowances , they r not without a heart . Gossip may be there but understanding ALSO is there . Its a perfectly normal caste with the usual flaws and equally strong good points . Maharastrians worship Marathi social leaders like Maharshi Dhondo Karve Or Jotiba Phule who fought for emancipation of women . Its a caste with advanced thoughts too . I personally feel far too much was made of her staying there for two years .

I agree with pallai . In fact Archana cud take some lessons from Shravani about commitment to a marraige . So cud the other K sisters coz they keep running back to their maayka when any problem occurs . Half the time all the three r in their maayka , weeping and doing dramas .Once she gave the commitment Shravani stood by it religiously .........she adjusted to the standard of living although she was accustomed to a higher one , treated sasural people with respect , was content with the simple life and frugal food . She gave the commitment her hundred percent . I rather like her for not stirring even once to go to her rich dad .

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zainab rao

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Posted: 14 years ago

#69

they r not running.............................i hv read a article that they convince there luv in front of everyone..................nd they dnt accept there marriage.....then manav leave his hame with archana

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bee5

@bee5

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Posted: 14 years ago

#70

Originally posted by: NiHa24

Hi bee, long time na.😊
nice post👏 agree with u.

Hi Niha, Yes, its really been very long since I interacted with you 😊

Originally posted by: NiHa24

actually it was excatly not the article which made me question this. when i read the article long back from when i saw the promo even i posted the comment " good for them"....but seeing the promo which made me remind the article again and made me to post my views as "why".....but now i better wait before saying anything like that till i get to read the update.😆

agree with u that CV's have totally ruined characters, i would say especially the leads. i try to see the episode not through the characters say, but thought the CV's POV. thats why i think why CV's plot these scenes so illogically. the two character which were shown to be Mahaan and now being dumped like anything.

Oh Archu and Manav's mahaantha ... I am bored of their mahaantha since very long .. I just roll my eyes and ignore them. These 2 for me are not normal human-beings! I watch the show to see how the story progresses, technical aspects of the show and of course Satish. I do like the technical aspects of the show like editing and the camera work. It is one of the best among all the Zee shows.

Originally posted by: NiHa24

They were the ones who showed Manav to be a Mahaan soul and accepted the resposibility of shravani, inspite of his love towards Achu. but now what?? where is concern towards shravani now. If he cannot take the resposibilty then why did he take and moreover i dont understand his attitude towards shravni, sometimes i think with what right he shows that much of attitude to shrav?

I agree, Manav accepted Shravani's responsibility without thinking. And the "coldness" that Manav always shows towards Shravani is because he despises her as he thinks it is because of her that he had to lose Archu. But that is none of Shravani's mistake. Who told him to do - aa-bail-mujhe-maar 😡? No one! I wonder if Manav would've behaved with Shravani in this manner if Sachin was alive and she was his SIL?!

Originally posted by: NiHa24

and also Archu, another Mahaan soul, when she brought back shrav from the station a very bad decision she made then and told them she wont enter into their lives, but now she's doing the same thing, Does Archu realize that? No, i dont think so? Even she doesnt care for the feeling of Shrav?

If only Archu and Manav behaved like normal people they would've understood all these. But their actions always make me say - 'how idiotic' ... !

Originally posted by: NiHa24

and Varshu, it was shocking to see Varshu took such an abrupt decision without consulting her husband, i thought she atleast has that respect for her husband, but no.
yeah Satish is the one who is left, hope they dont spoil his character too.

Originally posted by: NiHa24

but i have little diff opinion on Shravani leaving their house.
Sravani was about to become their DIL but Sachin passed away, meanwhile shravani got pregnant. i would say, yes she did make a mistake there and she wanted the baby as Sachins memory. even the DM's didnt deny. they still accept her as DIL.
So i dont see why Shrav have to leave the house, even if she's not married to Manav, she can stay untill their inlaws through her out. but they wont and also they are not doing any favour for her because its their selfissness here, that they want Sachu with them.

Difference of opinion .. I don't think you understood what I wrote, so, I am trying again.
Oh, What Shravani and Sachin did, I don't even call that a 'mistake' ..its their life, their choice, its totally upto them .. I am no one to judge them what they should do with their private life as both were getting married. Both did not anticipate that Sachin was going to die. Shravani wanted to keep the baby, it is her choice as well. Till there CVs did fine.
I am NOT saying Shravani should have left Manav's house nor that Shravani shouldn't have gone to Manav's house. What I am saying is how did the CVs come up with the reasoning that Shravani would live in Manav's house?! Here is what CVs did - Manav comes to Shravani's house and when Girish tell .. "I want her to abort and she isn't listening .. who will marry her .. yada yada yada ..." .. here the CVs made Manav say - "I will take her home, we will look after her, I will marry her"... In here .. where is the logic given by the CVs to make Shravani live in Manav's house or for Manav to say that? Do you get my point? As I already replied to pallai, there was no reasoning given and the CVs never ventured into that area to explain that to the viewers .. all they did was make Manav mouth some random dialogue of taking care and that is all.

Originally posted by: NiHa24

Its a TV show, Armaan are the Hero and Heroine, and at the end of the day, def they will be the one who will Unite. but the drag has gone to the core that no wonder PR's TRP is falling abruptly.
Lets see how CV's use their creativity to pull up their TRP's.

first of all till now Arman had not any confrontations that they want to marry each other. reading the article and some posts on the forum it made be believe that Arman are going to unite, now dont know how true it might be?
Now a question pops inside my head, Is Manav going to stop the wedding of Archu-Jay because he loves her and wants to marry her or he's doing it to save Achu from Jay????? and when he still have his confused pending decision whether to marry sharvani or not??????

From the promo and the article, I had a feeling that Manav and Archana are going to marry, it is not just that Manav is going to stop Archu from marrying Jaywant. And after watching todays show and Monday's promo it does look like they are headed towards that direction unless respective family barges there and say that they would not accept it as a marriage 😉😆

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