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Nikita Lakhe

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Posted: 14 years ago

#21

I agree with your whole post Hope.

I felt Manav helped Varsha only on humanitarian grounds. And I really didn't feel that he was anywhere wrong in this.

I suppose Girishji didn't want Manav helping Varsha since he has learned from past instances that ultimately Manav will somehow get involved in the K family matters.

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gaurimisha

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Posted: 14 years ago

#22

Originally posted by: unknown18

Archu is still not his priority. He is just helping her by trying to persuade her not to marry Jay. He is not saying marry me.

It was just stupid of him to sign those papers in the jail. What did he do after coming out...Nothing! Even now its only talks, no action! His mother and Sachin were always his priority after Sachin's death.

Agree.

I agree with the varsha part apa.But Girish as a father wud worry when 5 days before marriage manav is busy saving his ex-wifes' sis.Actually,phoons n girish hav always witnessed Manav jumping to help Ks...its not tht they dont want Manav to help anyone....they hav particular prob with Ks.From his POV,it looks as if Manav still somewhr wants association with Archana...excuse being helping out her family.

Manav helping out varsha looked stupid to me actually....though I do like his good intentions.He can not control his mother and yet he had to give her shelter in his house.Varsha,being an educated and working lady shud hav been perfectly able to stay in some hostel,hotel or any temp place...its not like financially she's worse than Manav.She is better off than him.Yet he had to help her by asking him to stay in his house.Intentions were good only.

Honestly,if Manav is committed to phoons and Archana to Jaywant,I dont see any reason why they shud defy their families and go against them to help out each other in the most stupid way.

If they cared so much for each other,they shud never hav divorced.To any third party,it appears as if they want to hav affair even when they r committed to others...be it prabha,jaywant,dharmesh,phoons or girish.

Had Manav helped out varsha by finding for her a PG or hostel ,I'm sure Girishji wud hav praised him.

I luv ArMan bcoz intentionally they r good.But their actions can only be termed as those of extreme studpidity in the real world.

Edited by gaurimisha - 14 years ago

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Posted: 14 years ago

#23

Originally posted by: unknown18
I agree with u about Varsha. 😃

Abt Girish - I dont think he thinks Manav is mahaan. I don't think either. I think he was being sarcastic. I think if Shravani had a mother then things wud hav been different as they think differently than men. I m not supporting Girish as I think he is stupid that he cant see that even after 2 years Manav has no interest in Shravani at all and even the deshmukhs care abt Sachu only.
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Sid:

I know of many men and women who after a divorce (amicable or not)maintain relations with their's ex's family and friends. sometimes it is the maturity in them that makes them do it. they know these relationships were a product of their association with their ex but they maintain them because they value these relationships out of love for the invidivduals independent of their ex.

manav choose to leave his wife for shravani.

he never promised her love

shravani feel in love with him. that was her problem not his. instigated by his mom and not dissuaded by his actions. I do not blame him for misleading her I blame him for not correcting her delusions consistently.

expecting him to distance himself from archu from shravani considering the joint decision is fair - not out of love or respect or loyalty to shravani but out of sensitivity.

expecting him to distance himself from people he likes (and he seems to have a handful of these won't you agree) is expecting him to totally change his life for a charitable compromise. again here I am not going to debate whether he was in a position to offer the compromise considering his marital and financial status.😆

If he was helping manjusha then I would say he was doing that for archu brownie points as no love lost there but Varsha is different for him. he has always been shown to have a special independent bond with varsha.

demonstrating a sensitivity to shravani's insecurities and letting these insecurities take over all other relationships in your life are two different things. the first is a fair request, I think the second is stretching it.

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Posted: 14 years ago

#24

Originally posted by: lunza
I think somewhere shravani and maybe even her dad feels manav will forget his past baggage and fall in love with her ....

I agree it is her cross to bear..maybe she is willing to bear it too if she can get married to manav ( which is what has been promised to her) ... but isnt manav backing out of his commitment now ? That too in such a cowardly way ... sneaking out of his wedding to stop someone else's ...

I find her zid to marry manav though vindictive of her own "football" status in this house is short-sighted on her part and her dad's part where sachin is concerned.

sachin needs a better future. the D's could not give this to him even if they tried.

love yes
support yes
structure no

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Posted: 14 years ago

#25

Originally posted by: gaurimisha
Agree.

I agree with the varsha part apa.But Girish as a father wud worry when 5 days before marriage manav is busy saving his ex-wifes' sis.Actually,phoons n girish hav always witnessed Manav jumping to help Ks...its not tht they dont want Manav to help anyone....they hav particular prob with Ks.From his POV,it looks as if Manav still somewhr wants association with Archana...excuse being helping out her family. people think this way not because of manav's actions primarily but because of archana's and their impact on manav. manav has always tried to keep his distance out of sensitivity to shravani. yet archu and her family has always involved him in her life. if sulo came and begged him to convince archu about remarriage is that his fault? if archu begged him to attend engagement is that his fault? if archu took on family and lost reason freeing him from jail is that his fault? if archu gave him at ultimatum to continue working at his factory or else she would quit is that his fault?. if they have created a perception of his actions should he be penalized so that he cannot follow his heart when he wants to? no at least in my mind.

Manav helping out varsha looked stupid to me actually....though I do like his good intentions.He can not control his mother and yet he had to give her shelter in his house.Varsha,being an educated and working lady shud hav been perfectly able to stay in some hostel,hotel or any temp place...its not like financially she's worse than Manav.She is better off than him.Yet he had to help her by asking him to stay in his house.Intentions were good only. Manav is the least judgemental of people so I can totally see him helping Varsha inspite of whether he belives she did something right or wrong. his offer was shelter was a last resort not his first option na guddiya?

Had Manav helped out varsha by finding for her a PG or hostel ,I'm sure Girishji wud hav praised him. Exactly. it is not the action but the lens that was used to perceive it that was shady. Girish should demonstrate some of this wisdom in the future of his daughter (outside of the Ds). I think.
Manav's actions seemed genuine to me.

Edited by stillhopeful - 14 years ago

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Posted: 14 years ago

#26

Originally posted by: Akashspartan
Hope di, i agree to an extent! But its a father's heart, which was doing all the talking!😊

A concerned dad who is out there too be a protective of her lonely daughter, and yes its a marriage of compromises!

Akash I understood why he said it. just found it ironic.😃

if he is truly protective and truly concerned, he should get his daughter away from this madness and take her to somewhere that her future and her son's can be secured.

pandering to her delusions is being an indulgent but a less than model father.

if his daughter took many unwise decisions that he did not want to critique her for that is ok but what is at stake her is sachin's future.

I am not saying this because i want Arman or anything like that. I am saying this because even an impressionable girl needs a second chance and most definitely an innocent child needs a chance.

two years of her life is long I agree but being stuck in this rut for the rest of her life is even worse. As a parent who is educated and financially secure I have always expected more from him. sometimes you have to be cruel to be kind as a parent. his pragmatism in this matter may be unappreciated by his daughter now but later sachu may appreciate it.

when you see signs (like arman) you take corrective action you do not attack the signs instead. how does that make sense eh?

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Posted: 14 years ago

#27

Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000
No I dont see it that way . . I side totally with Girish in the Shravni matter . . And I dont finD Manav being conniving in helping Varsha but I really dont think its any of his damned business . These kind of problems r endless and at a certain point one has to cut off . Neither is it Manavs business to go and talk to Satish ........this is a delicate matter which exists only between Satish and Varsha . . Lets agree to disagree .

Kools I did not like him speaking to Satish on it. that is crossing some boundaries but offering her shelter as a last resort seemed fine to me considering his nature.

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gaurimisha

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Posted: 14 years ago

#28

Originally posted by: stillhopeful

It is gud that he helped varsha.I only hav prob with the help he offered.He cud hav helped varsha without creating so much fuss.Moreover,I dont get one thing..varsha has no friends in whose house she cud stay for a day?.I agree he is fundamentally a good person so he wud naturally help varsha...but think the way he didit was stupid.

Archana asks for help.Her family does and so manav willingly helps them.He is more enthu abt helping all the Ks put together thn bothering abt attending Girishs' parties.That shows whr his interest lies.He saved Ks izzat during vaishus' marriage...hardly bothering but Girishs' izzat n tht of phoons.

Ultimately,both ArMan r relying on each other n want to help each other.Such behaviour will call for mistrust and irritation frm other family members...tht is obvious.I can understand Girishs' frustration at this point...its 2 yrs already...thr is difference in how Manav treats Ks n phoons-girish.

Girish may not be the best or ideal father....but what he feels today is somewhr due to both Archu-manavs' inconsistency.His wisdom is telling him Manav still cares for Archu more thn more his own daughter...thts not something any father of a bride-to-be wud like to feel.

Manav cant afford to be so forthright with his helping ways...if he wants to help Ks he shud...but maintaining a balance btwn phoons n Ks...he goes out of his way to help the Ks,completely ignoring phoons.This makes the whole divorce-for-sacrifice thing lame and idiotic.

Archana too went ahead to slap dharmesh.I didnot like one bit of wht she did then.Neither do I like manav offering his house for varsha to stay....going against savita,girish,phoons and going to advice satish.

Dont see anyone penalizing Manav for what the Ks asked him to do....but then he was a willing to help as well...what I say is his willingness to help is getting misinterpreted by ppl and it can not be helped.

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Posted: 14 years ago

#29

apt title.
Girish and Shravni arent malicious ppl they plain opportunists. Sachins sudden demise and Shravni's insistence on keeping the baby made Girish apprehensive and left with very few choice. He cleverly asked Manav who would marry his daughter under such circumstances knowing quite well Manav's magnanimous heart and as he expected Manav offered to marry his daughter. Shravni too at that point had no option but to agree to this alliance so that she could keep the baby, so both father and daughter took this opportunity that came their way nothing wrong in that. But after that the way entire situation changed with Archana coming back and Manav unable to forget or forgo his love should have made both Shravni and Girish realise the futility of this compromise relation. Girish has the money and the status to provide Shravni and his grandson a better life, Shravni likewise is educated enuf to have a career and start life afresh. Decisions taken hastily under emotional duress or coercion often fall flat. Both father-daughter duo should realise this and make a dignified exit.

Many Happy Returns of the day Hope 🤗

Edited by piya_10 - 14 years ago