Saffy dearest . Ok , Before i launch into my reply ...........One thing I make clear although u know it . I love u and respect ur opinions although we differ here and dont mind my sarcasm .When i say 'YOU" it is actually meant at CVSnot at you as such .Ok ?Muvaa .that said ..........my answer .......... . I know that the topic of the thread is dissecting Shravni's character , the problem is , Shravni is not seperate from ARMAN case ............she is intertwined with them . She is hated coz she is the kabab mein haddi for ARMAN the PURE COUPLE . So while discussing Shravni , giving examples of ARMAN becomes very mandatory . .
ARchu's psyche comes from a v v traditional Hindu concept of 1 husband for 7 lives and to heaven.Hinduism in itself does NOT have the concept of divorce.Archu subscribes to this hindu concept due to her upbringing.Even bfore SHravni's arrival Archu was clear that she wanted to stay away from MAnav bcoz he did not trust her suspecting her with Satish,but there was no way she wud accept anybody else as a husband.She told Manav that clearly -'meree chitha hi mujhey aapse alag kar sakthee hai'.Period.Till date Archu has stuck to this principle of hers,she is consistent on this one.
If we are on the topic of Hinduism , and that too , ancient Satyayuga age Hinduism that was followed strictly by ladies of that time............coz this concept that u said Archu subscribes to .....of one Pati for seven lives exists ONLY from that age to the Treta yuga where Sri Krishna appeared to tell the Gita . If Archu subscribes to THAT then ..........
How come she left her husband and went with her mom without even listening to his side of the story ? Ancient Hindu wives did that ? Ancient hindu wives were such that forget demanding proofs of innocence of hubby or listening to his side of the story , THEY WUDN"T GO PERIOD . They wud say ok , he went to prostitutes , so what ? He is my hubby , MEREKO KABUL HAI . Its OK with me . This is the way an ancient hindu wife wud have silenced Ajit . And if Sulochna wud have dragged her she wud have respectfully but firmly dislodged her hand and said SORRY AAI , FOR BETTER OR FOR WORSE THIS IS MY LIFE NOW . Did your Archu do this ? No , like a very urban , modern gal she cried on mommys shoulder , turned her face away from hubby and walked out ! U wanna know who behaved like an ANCIENT HINDU WIFE ? Vandu ! From day one , although many blasted her [ and I still do] she said FOR BETTER OR FOR WORSE I WILL NOW NOT COME BACK . HE MAY BE WHATEVER BUT HE IS MY HUSBAND . Thats what an ANcient hIndu wife would reply . Do we see Archu doing this ? So on what basis do u say she subscribes to TRADITIONAL HINDU CONCEPT OF ONE HUSBAND FOR SEVEN LIVES ? Vandu subscribes to it , NOT ARchu !
Ancient hindu wives file for divorce even if Hubby asks for it ? Thats a BIG TIME LAUGH . They will DIE but not remove mangalsutra from their neck or give up their marraige . U want tradition saffy , heres tradition for u ! They will obey hubby in everything , but if he says divorce me , they will take a sword and give it to him and tell him here chop my head and be free but I cant do that when IM ALIVE .Did Your TRADITIONAL ARCHU do that ? No ...the moment Manav filed for divorce , after a confrontation like any urban gal she too SIGNED THE DIVORCE PAPERS . Where does the concept of one hubby for seven wife come in hERE ? R u telling me that inspite of signing she was gonna go on worshipping him in her heart ...coz I wont accept that answer , at that point she WAS NOT IN LOVE WITH HIM TO THIS EXTENT AT ALL . THe madness started much later .
Ancient Hindu wives wud never turn face away when husband is constantly trying to tell his side of a misunderstanding . They were VERY PATI ORIENTED baba saffy ! Your traditional Archu travelled to divorce court , shrinking away from PATI in rickshaw ............showing dislike and disgust at every point till the TAPE fell in her hands . Like a very modern wife she WANTED PROOF .
A Traditional Hindu Wife wud not DREAM of telling her husband I AM UR BOSS IN FRONT OF WORKERS , she wud lay her life before that ! Nor wud she hesitate to show recognition in a function to husband even if he had discarded her , she wud go forward and touch his feet whether he liked it or not and acknowledge him as a husband . Thats an ancient , traditional true Hindu wife for u , the type who believed ONE HUSBAND FOR SEVEN LIVES .
So I dont see HOW ARchu fits in that category , she very much is in the modern HIndu category ..........where wives file for seperation , divorce , demand proofs , explanations , love conditionally ONLY WHEN HUSBAND IS EXONERATED FROM BLAME { via TAPE in this case ] .
So u see saffix ............Archus Traditional dramas are SELECTIVE . Vandu on the other hand is CONSISTENT . ARchu is sometimes a very traditional wife and sometimes very modern . And so I dont see any reason why she can't LET GO OF MANAV . She is not being TRADITIONAL WIFE here but is a typical case of MODERN DAY REPRESSION who needs counselling .
..Shravni on the other hand is being the oxymoron.She is NOT consistent in her approach to marriage.
She on the on the other hand never claimed to be a traditional , ancient Hindu wife at all .She is a common girl u see in todays world . She did mistake of pre marital sex , she fell in love again , she became an unwed mom [ a rapidly increasing social problem in modern day society ] . She fought for her man , she had full confidence that ok he doesnt love me now but one day he will , I will make him love me .Thousands of girls feel that way , incomprehensible or shocking as it may seem to u . She is consistent with the age in which she is living , its your SELECTIVELY TRADITIONAL and SELECTIVELY MODERN ARchu who is inconsistent as i see it . And this i say on basis of the FACTS I saw in this serial . I repat ..........VANDI is the only one who falls in ANCIENT TRADITIONAL MOULD . Not Archu .Nope .
Her love is not equated to Archu's becoz Archu loves Manav only and only bcoz they had the saat pheres,legalised in front of God,ArMan's POV.
Achcha ?😆😆😆😆 Then why is she loving him now ? There r no saat pheres now , she took ulta pheras no now ? If her love is is strictly related to LEGALITY she UNDID the SAAT PHERES , divorced , no marraige left , so LOVE SHUD END . Your ARMAN disrespected God and struck the Saat pheres off with a sign on the divorce papers ! Now r u gonna tell me that the divorce papers cannot undo the saat pheres ? If they believe soooo much in the saat pheres why did they go to divorce court ? Ancient Hinduism had no divorce court ! But ARMAN were modern enough to go there ! So what do they believe in ............Ancient hinduism or modern day filtered hinduism ? Who is inconsistent here saffy ? If love is related to legal marraige only , legal marraige has ended ! So love shud go na ?It hasnt ?😆😆😆😆 And if THEY CAN BE HUMAN ENOUGH TO LOVE WITHOUT THE LEGAL MARRAIGE WHY NOT SHRAVNI OR ANY OTHER GIRL ?
.Manav gave her a promise under duress,why does she insist that he follow it up on the pretext of her love for him?She is playing the promise card but calling it her love,that is wat I dislike.Be consistent
Manav gave her promise under DURESS ? when ?Where ? I didnt see it ! Manav was DURESS FREE when he gave the promise , with his own volition ! He was gonna be divorced in just 3 days , he was gonna be a free man ! Shravni had come to him asking for humanatarian help , she was not at all in love with him ! She did NOT propose marraige to him ! Neither did Girish , whom everyone LOVED to blame ! Infact Girish told Manav categorically , plz dont put BS in her head about keeping baby etc , better if she does abortion , who will marry her ? And Manav , who was feeling free and thought his life wud have some meaning if he helped sumone said I WILL . Manav did not propose to her under DURESS . He proposed to her feeling FREE and coz he quickly saw a way of making his mom happy , by having Sachins replica that Girish wanted to snuff out .
I never saw her saying u promised me na . now marry me ! I saw her going along with his plans of marraige coz he is consistently telling Archu u go , u remarry , u have ur own life , my zimmedari is Shravni ! If Shravni feels encouraged by this .that soon this zimmedari will turn into love , see how committed he is to me , he is JUST NOT GIVING ARCHU COMMITMENT see how much she is hovering nearby , whats there to be soooo shocked about it ? He even betted his marraige with her to push Archu in marraige . All Shravni has seen is ZERO cOMMITMENT TO ARCHU FROM MANAV . Courtesy whom ? MANAV .
Falling in love is not inappropriate,but with whom and when is the factor for consideration-there is a time for everything and everything has its time
And I will really like to know how many girls r considered to be proprietary and nicely human when they wud declare in front of a man's wife that she loves the wife's husand,also well knowing that he loves her too and considers her his wife- if a man does this,he wud be considered a lecher.
if this is so,then watz wrong in ArMan flirting after being engaged,after all they r in LOVE,let them do adultery if not physically,do it emotionally after marriage,watz wrong,after all they r in LOVE.Doesnt that sound HUMAN? Why bash them?
They never said they r not in love.Archu said it clearly to Jay 2 times and MAanv to Shravni umpteen times.
no matter u might consider Archu's marriage a non-marriage,due to non-cosummation but until divorce,it IS a marriage.And the seal on it is that ArMan consider it soo as well-for them non-cosummation did not matter-the mann hi mann is marriage for them,becoz it has been sealed by the saat pheres already
There are many overseas marriages where the husband does Nikah on phone and wife does not join him for a long while due to visa and things like that.Wat does that mean?He can love,she can love,anybody can love them and declare it and say,hey,they don have a marriage?
So there is a time for everything and everything has a time . Especially LOVE . And its APPROPRIATE for ARMAN to be sooo much in love POST DIVORCE i suppose . Coz thats what they r claiming . That LOVE HAS NO BOUNDS AND LAWS . OUR RISHTA WILL REMAIN , SO WAT IF WE R DIVORCED , they r claiming . I guess thats propriety for U ? Its OK for them , but not ok for Shravni . I see .😆😆😆😆😆 If Archu can declare that the KAGAZ OF DIVORCE WONT STOP HER LOVE , why CAnt Shravni declare that KAGAZ OR NO KAGAZ < I AM IN LOVE , bEATS ME baba ! i see BOTH as human . FARAK ITNA HI HAI that SHRAVNI is HONEST Archu is basically honest but being weak minded she is unecessarily following MAnavs DISHONESTY .
Shravnis confession in front of Archu , Manav and full family that I was not in love with u at first but u know what I have fallen for u now is a very CANDID , hUMAN CRY in front of a SELF RIGHTEOUS PRIG who thought that by being politically correct by throwing A COMPRO MARRAIGE TERM I will be JUst fine , LETS GIVE the young gal food , clothing , BAS THATS ENUF . He had made no allowance for the fact that HUMAN EMOTIONS change over time [ see how Ajit changed ] and was fine with this CRUEL PURITANICAL < POLITICALLY CORRECT LIFE FOR SHRAVNI . But u know what , Shravni was no foolish Archu to accept whatever Manav says as the GOSPEL TRUTH .She cried out that MY EMOTIONS HAvE CHANGED .R u GUYS HEARINg ?IM NOT MAHAAN < MY EMOTIONS HAVE CHANGED ! And sorry Saffy , It touched a chord in my heart , that cry . As far as SAying in 'FRONT OF HIS WIFE" and 'PROPRIETY " Go , I think the day Archu came back , heard that Manav was marrying Shravni and walked out with a suitcase without putting up a fight and saying Lets solve this problem in any other way , u know what I dont want to give up on this marraige now , THE MARRAIGE REMAINED ONLY ON PAPER FROM THAT POINT ONWARDS . SHE GAVE UP . Exactly at that point she CEASED being a wife , she gave that post up HERSELF by obeying that Manav . Had she put down her suitcase and said I will help u with this girls problem , but i want this marraige , and if she had braved Manavs anger then but REFUSED TO QUIT BEING HIS WIFE , this question of PROPRIETY wud arise . But She herself qUIT and repeatedly told Shravni Im wife only on paper , im going after 3 months . So what wife ????? Later on toh they DIVORCED .
Look , Im firmly of opinion that Shravni needs to walk out . But She is no party pooper , there never was a party . Manav stood by and watched Archu being abused , let her sleep in kitchen , saw her character assasination by Savita , reduced her to the other woman from a wIFE STATUS now pushed that weak minded gal to marry against her wishes , knowing her SUICIDE HISTORY . Life with Manav was NEVER a party for Archna , it was MISERY . Always . Still if u guys say ARMAN !ARMAN ! its ur choice but all i wanna say is Shravni is a seperate story by herself she didnt poop anyones party coz no PARTY EXISTED . Hell , there is no party even today . See Archus halat . Those eye locks and Sufi songs aint PARTY , anything that makes a woman cry so much is HELL .
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