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Posted: 15 years ago
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samarth
Thank u so much for ur compliments but I am not half as intellectual as u and C are . Once upon a time was very active in the field , currently turned my back to it and just have a whole lot of opinions , bas . That I don't hesitate to voice .😊 Of course if I do get in , I can brush up , but my current frame of mind tells me simply to take pleasure and not to practise being an intellectual any more . C is a genuine one but I met so many who along with their intellect cultivated exactly the same amount of ego too that I decided to read only for pleasure and NOT for intellectual debates which my field demands and trains in . It is called critiquing.
C , Samarth 's opinions are .....cute , old worldly and distinguished , gentlemanly and absolutely positive in that order . Yes he shud be moderator .😆
And C , I do so hope u will take up writing seriously one day .The moment u described that Brahmani Marathi Aamthi , such a vivid picture with the peanuts and all arose before my eyes that i made it that very evening and drank it like soup , so hungry your description made me . So imagine how powerful ur writing skills are .
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Samarth have u read Anita Desai ? C , You ?

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Posted: 15 years ago
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Yep. My favourite is 'Clear Light of Day'. And yours?
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Fire on the Mountain and Clear Light of the day . Superb vocab she has C .Like urs .
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Hey! Moderator and me! I am warning you. All participants will run away. They may not get any floor at all.😆

Koolsadhu… Have I not mastered the art of being cute?😊 But don't frighten me with these 'intellectual' and 'distinguished'. I simply enjoy discussing my limited reading here which is not much of the case with friends who would never go beyond Arthur C. Clarke and would start yawning if a word of even Mocking bird is mentioned, let alone Saratji-almost a century old. Saratji or K.M.Munshi or Pannalal Patel are the legacy of the Family where Uncles and Aunts were used to invite Jagmohan or Jyuthika Rey to the household full of hustles and bustles-An old world, already gone past.

Kool , I have not read Anita Desai and for all her dexterity with English I did not like Kiran much.

She has mauled A Gujarati gentleman in very bad manner! 😡

We are set for a picnic.😎

Wish you all a very happy Sunday.⭐️

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Posted: 15 years ago
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Samarth neither did I like her much .KD , I mean . She too was thrashing 'the immigrant experience' ...................the only difference between her and Lahiri was that Lahiri 's angle was psychological , whereas KD has done intense research and highlighted the practical differences too . [ The plight of the illegal immigrant INdians who work in Indian hotels as chefs or assistants of those chefs or waiters . The immigrant experience is the in thing nowadays with commitees ]

I read KD first with prejudice , saying to myself , She must have got the Booker bcoz she was after all , Anita Desai's daughter , and we all know that Anita was nominated many times ..5 i think , for the booker and was a Booker commitee favorite . The co incidence was too much for me to ignore . But as I read the book , although the subject disinterested me , I found that she could indeed write and that with her creative writing degree she had honed her skills to perfection . In a sense the effort was studied and focussed , in a sense , the experience was genuine . And what happened was the genuine experience ultimately prevailed , it overshadowed her studied skills and made the book a real read . By the time I finished the book , I agreed that she was Booker material , but I still feel that the Booker comittee's fondness for ANita was also a big factor for her getting that award .

I don't think she set out to maul GUjratis on purpose .......was she true to her experience to the extent that she looked at it from the POV of her own caste ?Is ANita DEsai A gujrati ? Desai is a very common surname ........found in many castes in INdia. Was it the
being true to experience' thing ? I don't know Samarth .In fact , till u said so I never thought from that angle.
I want to read her as a humor writer and see if she has it . Her HUllabaloo in the guava Orchard is supposed to be humorous and got her the prize for a first time effort . Unfortunately I am NOT getting that book . Vikram SEth has rich humor in his writings , his wit is of the finest quality .
Your aunts said correctly about Sarat Babu . Even Tagore , although born in a wealthy family , delved in the woman's mind better than a therapist or psychiatrist . Look at his Binodini { CHoker Bali] and Lolita in GORA . I read the books again and again only to see them with a new understanding that comes as I grow . And each time I see something different.
Hope u enjoyed your picnic .😊 Am going to the book store to get Unaccustomed Earth and Hullabaloo in Guava Orchard one more time this week .
And yes.......now that you mentioned it I will not be able to rest till I read KD once more , this time with the view of Gujratis .........has she mauled them ? I will try to see how a Gujrati will feel if he reads the book , from his POV . Can't wait to try now .
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Posted: 15 years ago
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No-no Koolsadhu, you are misreading me. I did not like the 'Inharretance…', in spite of its flashes of linguistic brilliance, not because of Judge's vilification, but rather because of over all bleakness, melancholy and a sense of ambiguousness pervading entire narrative right up to the end. Too much realism is not for me. That Gujarati connection was a low sarcasm to 'support' my inability to like the novel for entirely different reasons. In fact her caricature of the judge was very good and I am sure she must have drawn from some personal connection as she is born to a Gujarati-Bengali Parentage. And there not only She is factually perfect but even brilliant at showing the suffering of his wife in flashbacks and some totally new facts about anglicized education of Gujarati students of that era , of which M.K.Gandhi was a part.

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Posted: 15 years ago
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Fantastic job!
I like your descriptions of food. I honestly have no idea what a majority of those italicized foods are, but you make them sound really good.
I don't know what else to write, I just really, really liked your "Not Exactly A FF", from the title to the actual piece.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Thanks, TBizzle.
Yes, Samarth had asked for a glossary too before the conversation became literary. 😊
Aamthi is a spicy daal, a sort of Marathi version of the sambar you get with dosas. It's usually not quite as sour as sambar; my mother always puts in a tsp of sugar at the end, or a little bit of jaggery, while my mother-in-law thinks sugar in sambar is sacrilege. You can put all sorts of stuff into it, and when that stuff is leafy, you can also put in shengdane or peanuts. Piuli bhaji literally means "yellow vegetables" and we make it from potatoes with the simplest spices; it's actually a childhood favourite of mine, which I've transferred to Manav in that gloomy mood when he's thinking nobody's ever going to baby him when Archana's gone. Basundi is a thick milky dessert and charoli is a light but very flavourful nut that goes into it.
OK, see you all tomorrow! Going home to an internet-less night till the guy arrives to fix the problem in the morning. Hopefully.
C
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Posted: 15 years ago
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hi u left ur writing after the first part itself. Y ?? Its a nice work would love to read more

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