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Posted: 15 years ago
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Goodness, Kool, thank you very much! More - and higher - praise than one could have anticipated for a 20 minute FF on IF. 😊 (Though I confess to editing minor details afterwards, viz. the Limca ladies.)
However, on a realistic note: clearly this is your affection speaking rather than your critical faculties, since work like Lahiri's and Jhabvala's requires both serious research and much focused effort. Even if I could come within reach of such subtlety, especially Lahiri's, for a few lines or phrases, I don't know if I could sustain it through a whole novel or even a short story. I think she's absolutely brilliant, so the mere suggestion that I could some day begin to emulate her is wonderfully flattering. 😊
C

C there we go , we differ again .
Why should you be this modest or self effacing where Lahiri's writing is concerned ? Seriously C did u mean all that ? She is GOOD NOT BRILLIANT. Of course it is my opinion only but there , I have said it . C , Alongwith her many others were nominated for the Pulitzer and they were equally as good as her , she was the LUCKY ONE THAT DAY when the committee made that decision . Her stars up in space were shining bright like Blake's tiger . And so she arrived . But what about those who were nominated and didn't get it are they any bit lesser than her ?
C all those who are nominated for the Pulitzer , booker , PEN FAULKNER awards cannot be more better than the other nominees . Utltimately a bunch of people give an opinion ..........it boils down to that , thats all . Tagore got the Nobel but Sarat Chandra was equally worthy wasn't he ?
I read it elsewhere too , a crtic had lavished praise on Lahiri saying now we are scared of her etc etc , she has arrived . All this with what , just two books to her credit in which she thrashes the bengali immigrant experience most of the time ...........I am not talking here of her Interpreter of maladies where indeed some character sketches are good . As far as her lucid style goes , its good , but ONLY THAT . R K Narayan , whom btw Lahiri reads before writing , had nOT done any creative writing course like Lahiri did in BOston [ the place where one gets the right contacts] , neither had Tagore , neither had JOHN BUNYAN or Mark Twain . C i strongly believe Lahiri is good but over hyped and please , for my sake don't say that you can come close to only emulating her . What nonsense ! You are brilliant and if you can just write this way for fun , if u put your mind to a short story you will be be the goods . For u have a way with words and writing is ultimately only that .........a way with words . This painstaking research and focus that writers of Lahiri's breed do nowdays by doing creative writing courses perhaps helps them in writing but it must be remembered that yesteryear writers wrote without doing these courses and got Nobels . PG Wodehouse wrote twenty five pages a day , and words flowed coz it was in his bblood and Lahiri cannot come upto his mark in any way is my personal opinion , although their genres r vastly different . For that matter Anita Desai did not land the Booker and Kiran Desai did , but I find the mother's style much more less contrived and effortless .
You can do it coz when u write , the scene stands before my eyes . Your description is vivid and lucid both . And although i do have affection for u as a forum friend I say yhis with total honesty .
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Posted: 15 years ago
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If one takes in to account the lasting impact of a story , let me tell you, Jumpa Lahiri is nowhere near Sharad Chandra Chatterji . At least for me.

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Posted: 15 years ago
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And samarth how i second you on that one ! Exactly my opinion .
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Posted: 15 years ago
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@ Koolsadhu

Let us gang together in forcing C to come up with a full-fledged novel.

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Posted: 15 years ago
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Yes samarth . Let her start with a short story first and C has lived in India too uunlike Lahiri who has ONLY the bengali immigrant experience and nothing more . Indian writers from India have so much more to share .See Narayan's Malgudi days ....see the multitude of exxperiences and characters . And these people go Lahiri Lahiri ....why , I fail to see .
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Yes C, its a request...do write a short story.
You will do an excellent job...Come on there isnt any harm trying once
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Posted: 15 years ago
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OK, guys, girls, gang enforcers and Limca Ladies, thanks everyone for all this lavish praise. I have lots more to say on the subject of Lahiri and Sarat Chandra but I also have a deadline today so will take a rain check till tomorrow.
A modest bow going off-stage,
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Whew, OK, finally sent off the files I was working on.
Now, Kool and Samarth, just for starters when you wake up / log in today/ tomorrow:
How is it possible to compare Lahiri and Sarat Chandra Chats? Firstly, they're doing very different kind of work: Sarat Babu's novels are so melodramatic that women kept an extra handkerchief at hand for all the enjoyable sobbing they expected to indulge in; his works were often serialized, so he had the same problem - of retaining audience attention in every instalment - as the PR creatives, though of course he wasn't quite so much at a loss!. In contrast, Lahiri's work is so low key and predicated on slow, minute observations of the everyday. He's domestic, she's diasporic, he wrote mostly in Bangla, and she in English, his forte was the novel, and hers the short story, they're separated by a century and more, he's canonical and she's just been around a decade or so, and look at the sheer size of his corpus in relation to hers. An apples to oranges comparison, really. Will elaborate on why Lahiri won in my next post!
C
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Two admissions as the starters

1. I have read only one of her works (2?). So I can not claim any intimate familiarity with her work.

2. I have never been educated in English Literature. For that matter English as a proper subject was also lost to me at 12th standard when I entered technical degree education. So I can never debate at the same level as you two are perched. So what ever I comment may come as only an intuitive impression of an average reader and hence these comments have to be indulged accordingly.

Having said that I want to point out the way both the authors have worked on me.

While Lahiri's work has come to me in its original form with out any influence of intermediary translator, Sharatji has reached to me as translation. I have always wondered at his original grandeur in Bengali when even translations had held me spellbound.

When you say Sharatji is so melodramatic and sobbing experience, let me tell you, I was equally shaken at his deftness and mastery over sharpest wit and humour without losing any tempo or pace in narrative. In comparison, Jumpa's prose was coming many a time a bit contrived and boring (at least to me). Her narration of Rice Krispies concoction has started the novel with a big yawn ( unless I have missed some Bengali context), where as I can not recall a single such moment with Sharatji.

And when you point out his greater challenge at serialization in comparison to Jumpa's rehearsed downloads, it only adds to the magic he was able to create with out losing out on a single passage unneeded in hisnarratives.

Disclaimer: Take this as the one coming from an average reader who is nowhere near your debating skills.

Edited by samarth_050 - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Will definetely wait for your next post on LAHIRI but i want to make one thing very clear here

I am very well aware that Sarat Chandra and Lahiri cannot be compared from a lit crit POV. Lahiri should be more compared with Kiran Desai or Chitra Divakaruni . So ok . Let us not quibble about the technical parts here .........of the time , language , style this and that ..........as I understand what samarth was trying to say .........it was about the impact and essence of a novel in general and had nothing to do with lit crit evaluation . Still , chalo , I accept everything you say and YET say that Lahiri was plain lucky to land the Pulitzer . She is GOOD but not BRilliant is my firm opinion and from whatever I have read uptill now , limited in her very experiences . But I cut my argument short here and am waiting to see your response . Will reply only after reading it . 😊

About Sharat babu ..........MY BEST SWEETU WHO STIRS ME IN AND OUT .and no , we most certainly dont need the hanky for his novels have far more depth than that . The soclal life of Bengal of that time which stands before our eyes is enough of a tribute to his writing skills so is the fact that he SURVIVED after so many years and didn't get buried . Oh how I love Sarat chandra !

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