All izz getting well - Page 8

Exactly my point koolsadhu, I can't tolerate people being insensitive in love... at all. All these actions- by Savita, Sulochana, Damodar, Girish are the ones that I criticised long back and still continue to do as the issue crops up. That is why I said it is a matter of opinion: I can't tolerate it and so I hated it when Savita, Sulochana, Damodar and Girish did it... even when my sweetu, darling, koochi-poo Manav behaved insensitively and put sindoor on Shravani's maang without thinking what the grave consequences could have been I blasted him.. in fact we all did... also coz expectations were higher.. even in his anger and hatred he had not been insensitive to her... gave up his seat in train when he saw she was uncomfortable in the male crowd, picked her up tenderly when she fell down at his feet, allowed her to attend Sachin's asthi visarjan when she said she had loved Sachin like a brother... etc.

I clarified in the previous post itself that I dont blame shravani for agreeing to get married to Manav, as I said she had become selfish for her baby which is understandable. Okay, I even accept that she is thinking that things will get alright after marriage as maybe Manav will accept her and start loving her just like she is trying to forget Sachin.... but the point remains the same... she knows that RIGHT NOW he is unhappy, very guilty, in love with someone else, and very very pressurized... yet she doesn't say a word when her father forces Manav to prove his commitment for her, by getting engaged or by making him put sindoor... add to that the humiliation her future husband is getting when all the time he is being selfless and only trying to keep other people happy...

Manav put sindoor on Shravani's head thinking this act would hurt Archana as of now but would be good for her future since she would start hating and try to forget him and move on in life without him. Here also his intention was not wrong... in fact his intention was completely selfless in a way if you think of it (denigrating himself in the eyes of everyone and trying to commit bigamy for Archu's future happiness) but still I called this excuse stupid coz it was too too extreme, okay, maybe she will forget him in the future coz of this sindoor act... but what if she does not make it to the future.. how about suicide.

Same situation for Shravani... at least Manav became insensitive thinking about Archu's future... Shravani isn't even doing it for anyone NOT EVEN HER BABY ... afterall kya nuksaan ho jata if she had said no papa pls lets not trouble Manav more.. I trust him... lets wait for the divorce to come through... would Manav have cancelled this wedding? NO, he would have only been a little relieved and maybe a bit thankful to Shravani...the point is... what if RIGHT NOW.. Manav falls prey to depression/nervous breakdown/suicide attempt/drugs due to the pressures heaped on him, his guilt and his pent up feelings? If he does something wrong tomorrow, I will be angry with him and with Shravani coz she had the power to stop knowing what state he was in but didn't do anything.

If I didn't forgive my sweetu Manav for his act of extreme insensitivity despite the fact that he did it thinking about Archu then how can I forgive Shravani (who is not even doing it for anyone else) is my point.. as I said before I'm no hypocrite... the rule that applies to Savita, Sulochana, Girish, Damodar AND MANAV applies to Shravani too. I criticised all of them when they did it and so I criticize Shravani too.

The difference in my feelings as a viewer (thinking from the heart now) however is that I have been exposed a lot to Manav or Sulochana or Damodar's good side, character and intentions... they have played an important role in the story since the beginning and have made a very strong impression, so even though I criticize them and am angry with their one act of insensitivity, I can't hate them. Shravani even though a positive character, came into focus ever since the pregnancy track came, before that she was invisible and even though in this one month there were some positive points (talking to Manav to not marry her being the most important one) the insensitivity part has put me off totally against her coz the good impression that a positive character should have on the viewer has been ruined in its very foundation. And thus my current ire against her. I am sympathetic to her condition all the same.

She is the only one who loves him unconditionaly . Other than her he only has his baba and tarun ..Kaka hardly speaks anymore ...

And the way they have ended the episode today , I think he is just about to go in a deep shock or depression . At least that is what I felt as if he was loosing himself totally . Any normanl person would go crazy after what he saw today and to think that his father was in the same part of the train where the blast happened .

After all the depression, his brother dying , the jail , going in a loveless marriage , doing so much cruel injustice to his wife , and now his dad ....I think he is about to go in depression ...

Nikita , My POV in short is simply this : Far too much is being expected of Shravni .She shud be sensitive and voluntarly show sensitivity here there etc etc . Arre babas if jhampu and pampu {ARMAN] are themselves not bothered about their love why others will bother ?Is this the way duniya runs ? Even Satish there is not being exactly sensitive to his moms dislike of Varsha and going after his lady love ........He wants Varsha , bas . And thats the way it shud be . Like this if one decides to be sensitive to everything and everyone in the world , will marraiges take place ? To achieve goal a little insensitivity is not just required , but absolutely essential if u ask me .

If u ask me , both Archana and Manav need a good dose of this insensitivity . See where their over insensitivity has got them..........they r doing satyanaash of their lives . If they learn to become sensibly insensitive sometimes to others and focus on being with each others things wud be vastly diffrent .

My point : A little insensitivity , purposefully donned , sometimes is the sensible thing to do . It is perfectly normal . I dont think what Shravni is doing is abnormal AT ALL . The way she told Archna to back off was what a woman shud do to get her man . What jhampu Pampu are doing is the wrong thing , not shravni .

Well said, Kool.

"Jhampu and Pampu": very nice, very nice indeed ! Are they some sort of Marathi Punch and Judy pair? 😊

baap re , kool is angry . Don't blame her . Even I am angry with Manav , just maybe going a little bit soft , feelign a little bit sorry for the fellow . But I am sure the creatives will put in some thing else soon , him putting mangal sutra on Shravani on Savita's saying ...and I will be cursing myself for feeling even this little bit sorry for the fellow , secretly though I hope he does something nice for the girl ......

I am not that angry on Archu , maybe I am wrong but I think she just wnats whatever she can get in the 2 months and then just go . I think she has accepted the fact that manav is marrying Shravani and is absolutely ready to move on in life at the same time she has also accepted that she is and will always be in love with this guy ...Maybe she is what you call a looser . But that's how she is , why else would she give up her education and all that for her family .

that's her nature ...

But it would be good if he does not go in depression and stays fine ...he is mentally a pretty tough fellow .Specially these days .

But one thing I would like to say, I have very little expectations from Shravani- I'm not angry bcoz Shravani is not thinking of ArMan's love, I'm just angry because she is letting her Dad pressurize Manav far too much (sindoor and engagement) when she knows what his condition is right now and he is clearly not in a state to say no. To me it is like a form of mental harassment only, just like Savita snatched Archu's mangalsutra- put sindoor on shravani's forehead right now and prove your commitment, etc.

She has accepted him as her husband, right? It saddens me to think she cannot even speak to her father to give her husband a little relief, when her husband is doing so much for her. I think Manav deserves to get this much from Shravani. My expectations from Shravani are solely in the aspect of a human being, an old friend, and most importantly Manav's future wife. She is responsible for Manav as much as Manav is responsible for her. Instead of asking Manav from Archana (and thus in a way, getting her right by snatching it) It would have made so much sense to see her thinking about Manav a little and saying to her Dad lets wait for divorce (And this I am saying despite of the fact that it may have brought Manav closer to her.. which personally I don't want). When she can exercise her right over Manav why can't she fulfill a little bit of duty is my question. Overall in the very foundation, Shravani's positive character suffered a big blow, and so I am frustrated with her now.

Anyway each to his own. As I had said earlier opinions are bound to vary where Shravani is concerned.

The point is that the ceremonies haven't brought Manav and Shravani closer together. If anything, the sindoor and engagement have had the opposite effect, pushing the man further and further away from Shravani. He sees the door of his Archana dreams shutting on him even more starkly now. These premature rituals have also made him more keenly conscious that the family is wronging a decent, honest, caring (and beautiful!) wife. And that's what's triggering all these memories, regrets, moments of confessional softness etc. Girish's impatience will actually hasten the reunion. So what are we unhappy about here?

C

PS: Sorry about all this arch italicising; not usually my style, but IF makes one do odd things.😊

@koolsadhu:I agree both Manav and Archana are not practical people and they need to learn that but thts the way they are and in reality,such people do exist.

Their actions do anger me but still I love them as such for wht they are.

I dont think dignity has ever mattered to Archu else she shudnt have tolerated Savita at all...the definition of dignity is completely different for her.She flung the divorce papers since she hadnt expected Manav to distrust her character.What people say doesnt bother her,what bothers her is wht her beloved ones think about her and in this case it was Manav .As I had said earlier,Archana feels and does anything and everything for the sake of her loved ones and their thinking only matters to her...she absolutely doesnt care about the rest of the world.

If 2moro every chawl people say she's characterless,she'll gladly tolerate it only if Manav n her Aai trust her.

Manav will not go into clinical depression but he'll definitely be too shocked to think anything in today's episode and this is where our Archu will step in.😊