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Originally posted by: MeghnaGhosh

When she twisted HS's own words about haq jatana, HS ka face dekhne layak tha🤣 he was like maine khud ne kiya hai yeh, aa bail mujhe maar😆

I actually so identified with him in that moment😆.....it is damn frustrating to see people twist your words or just do a surface interpretation of what you tried to say. Upar se such people then try to either act cocky or play victim if you point out that they misinterpreted what you said.....oh no but YOU told me this and now you are going back on your word🤔

HS had tried to explain to her that where there is love, you fight for your love and try to stay connected. He gave the example because Ashok had gone far away and wouldn't see Babita for months or years on end......but Babita twisted it completely in a childish blind interpretation to mean ki bas chipke raho 24/7 with your spouse and you can't even be apart for a couple of days🤔.

Also I've noticed that she deliberately tries to play dumb about some things simply to get her way....it serves her purpose to play the pouty brat, that's why she does it.....cuz she's noticed that HS ho ya Mini, they ultimately give in to her tantrums many times....that is why she does it and twists their words against them.....ki you told me this, look I'm applying it now......either she doesn't realize or she doesn't care that she is applying their guidance in a shallow or twisted way to serve her purpose.

Originally posted by: MeghnaGhosh

Anu I have a request...can you please post some gifs of the episode rather scene when HS was reading the letter by Ashok and then he goes to Mini..that hug and that small moment which they had..

Sure. Gimme a few, will try to post those soon.

I have not watched yesterday's episode. By the time I switched it on precap was going on and i cant tell how disgusted i was with it so dint bother to watch the episode. The way babita behaved was so insensitive and selfish and I know that will completely destroy the hs mini bond after that. I will be surprised if CVS show us otherwise. I fell bad for mini HS spcly after the scene we got after HS reading ashoks letter. They both were craving for each others love then. Babita is to not deserving of mini and HS but these two atleast deserve each other because of the understanding they have of relationships and being so similar like each other.

Originally posted by: naq5

I have not watched yesterday's episode. By the time I switched it on precap was going on and i cant tell how disgusted i was with it so dint bother to watch the episode. The way babita behaved was so insensitive and selfish and I know that will completely destroy the hs mini bond after that. I will be surprised if CVS show us otherwise. I fell bad for mini HS spcly after the scene we got after HS reading ashoks letter. They both were craving for each others love then. Babita is to not deserving of mini and HS but these two atleast deserve each other because of the understanding they have of relationships and being so similar like each other.

I don't ever like to talk of who deserves whom....and even after the way Babita behaved yesterday, I won't make this about whether she deserves HS or Mini or vice versa.....to me, relationships are never about deserving....they are about how you handle or nurture them.....the work you put into them. Right now the tragedy is that Babita doesn't know how to handle or nurture them.....that doesn't make her undeserving of love I feel.....just that she isn't able to manage the love she even gets. It's sad.

It's sad that Babita doesn't understand life or relationships despite so many experiences in life that taught her.....oh well.

People are interconnected....Yes, HS-Mini are more similar to each other but that very similarity also includes their love for Babita.....so Babita will always impact their relationship....her inability to balance and manage relationships, her inability to sense and perceive HS and Mini as people before labels....that is the tragedy that will lead to all relationships unraveling.

I do wish they had explored HS's psyche as a father towards Mini more.....they only showed a few one off scenes and didn't follow up on it consistently....especially after the Imarti track.....that will be one among the many missed opportunities here.

Originally posted by: AreYaar

I don't ever like to talk of who deserves whom....and even after the way Babita behaved yesterday, I won't make this about whether she deserves HS or Mini or vice versa.....to me, relationships are never about deserving....they are about how you handle or nurture them.....the work you put into them. Right now the tragedy is that Babita doesn't know how to handle or nurture them.....that doesn't make her undeserving of love I feel.....just that she isn't able to manage the love she even gets. It's sad.

It's sad that Babita doesn't understand life or relationships despite so many experiences in life that taught her.....oh well.

People are interconnected....Yes, HS-Mini are more similar to each other but that very similarity also includes their love for Babita.....so Babita will always impact their relationship....her inability to balance and manage relationships, her inability to sense and perceive HS and Mini as people before labels....that is the tragedy that will lead to all relationships unraveling.

I do wish they had explored HS's psyche as a father towards Mini more.....they only showed a few one off scenes and didn't follow up on it consistently....especially after the Imarti track.....that will be one among the many missed opportunities here.

Ok what I meant was not that babita dosent deserve love but if she fails to understand and nurture relationships the way they are needed it's her fault. If she loses HS and Mini because of how she is it is her loss and her karma. It's like you reap what you sow. But here I feel bad because even HS mini are going to face the brunt of whatever she is. Because she is like this only. She is not only spoiling her relationship with mini but also HS relation with mini maybe permanently because of the way she behaved in precap. She deserves love but from people like saroj who will love her superficially and she too in return. Mini HS will never be able to be happy and peaceful with her because she will never learn to value them properly. Her insecurity, her importance to long kya kahenge, her need to show them off as assets are always going to come over them for her. I feel its not really fair to both of them especially mini. Dont they both deserve better.

@bold Yes as you said babita is connected to both of them it's not fair that a persons inability to handle relationships affects the other two in such a bad way.

Also you dont keep getting chances in relationships. You keep putting them through tests and disrespecting them and they are not going to remain same. People have enough of some things and give up. Babita dosent understand this. She is testing not only hers and mini relationship and hers and hs relation she is testing hs mini too by all this.

And people keep saying that mini is dominating and has her way but no babita is very stubborn and has always had her way since beginning. Mini initially always wanted to go with ashok but babita had her way and wanted to go only when ashok called them. Even with the jewellery returning thing she had her zidd of getting the jewellery returned. If mini stayed back at lunch for sr ks house she saw to it that she made mini feel bad about it. She got her sorry from HS in a forceful way. Got the marriage done the way she wanted throwing all tantrums. I thought marriage will happen and babita will rise up to getting mature and handling things but she's got worse. She dint want to work and got her way around it. Now she wants to sell the shop and wants to move with HS she will get that too. And she dosent want mini to read ashoks letter she will burn the letter forcibly. Where does what mini or HS want come into picture in all this. People say it's her life and her decision so she is getting to do what she wants even if it impacts all life around her.

Has she thought of how minis college will go if she moves with HS and is she ready to let mini stay here . I don't think she would because then people would say that maa to doosri shaadi karke pati ke saath chali gayi and beti ko chod ke gayi. I'm sure minis studies wont matter because she has this zid of going with hs

Originally posted by: naq5

Ok what I meant was not that babita dosent deserve love but if she fails to understand and nurture relationships the way they are needed it's her fault. If she loses HS and Mini because of how she is it is her loss and her karma. It's like you reap what you sow. But here I feel bad because even HS mini are going to face the brunt of whatever she is. Because she is like this only. She is not only spoiling her relationship with mini but also HS relation with mini maybe permanently because of the way she behaved in precap. She deserves love but from people like saroj who will love her superficially and she too in return. Mini HS will never be able to be happy and peaceful with her because she will never learn to value them properly. Her insecurity, her importance to long kya kahenge, her need to show them off as assets are always going to come over them for her. I feel its not really fair to both of them especially mini. Dont they both deserve better.

@bold Yes as you said babita is connected to both of them it's not fair that a persons inability to handle relationships affects the other two in such a bad way.

It’s definitely not fair. But then, life itself isn’t fair in general. As the writers like to say on Twitter...life is not a laddoo 🙄😆

It’s not fair that Babita’s failings as a person will lead to other relationships falling apart too. But solution bhi toh nahin hai aur koi🤷‍♀️. What can they do? Leave her and build their own life as father daughter? They will never be happy without Babita either. Despite everything, they will always love her. Love doesn’t die just like that simply over personality flaws.

Babita’s inability to look beyond herself and her superficial understanding of life and relationships has doomed them all, sadly.

Karma bhi hai, tragedy bhi hai. These writers definitely seem more influenced by Greek tragedies....lol

Originally posted by: AreYaar

It’s definitely not fair. But then, life itself isn’t fair in general. As the writers like to say on Twitter...life is not a laddoo 🙄😆

It’s not fair that Babita’s failings as a person will lead to other relationships falling apart too. But solution bhi toh nahin hai aur koi🤷‍♀️. What can they do? Leave her and build their own life as father daughter? They will never be happy without Babita either. Despite everything, they will always love her. Love doesn’t die just like that simply over personality flaws.

Babita’s inability to look beyond herself and her superficial understanding of life and relationships has doomed them all, sadly.

Karma bhi hai, tragedy bhi hai. These writers definitely seem more influenced by Greek tragedies....lol

Well the sad part is they will not be happy with being around her either. It's a day or two of happiness and another one day of roz roz ka kalesh.

They will everytime have to live putting their interests and feelings behind which will only damage them further.

Originally posted by: naq5

And people keep saying that mini is dominating and has her way but no babita is very stubborn and has always had her way since beginning. Mini initially always wanted to go with ashok but babita had her way and wanted to go only when ashok called them. Even with the jewellery returning thing she had her zidd of getting the jewellery returned. If mini stayed back at lunch for sr ks house she saw to it that she made mini feel bad about it. She got her sorry from HS in a forceful way. Got the marriage done the way she wanted throwing all tantrums. I thought marriage will happen and babita will rise up to getting mature and handling things but she's got worse. She dint want to work and got her way around it. Now she wants to sell the shop and wants to move with HS she will get that too. And she dosent want mini to read ashoks letter she will burn the letter forcibly. Where does what mini or HS want come into picture in all this. People say it's her life and her decision so she is getting to do what she wants even if it impacts all life around her.

Has she thought of how minis college will go if she moves with HS and is she ready to let mini stay here . I don't think she would because then people would say that maa to doosri shaadi karke pati ke saath chali gayi and beti ko chod ke gayi. I'm sure minis studies wont matter because she has this zid of going with hs

LOL well people in this forum anyways twist everything Mini says and does to help Babita as her “taking away Babita’s choice” 🙄🙄. That “logic” never made any sense to me.

As you pointed out, Babita has gotten her way on her own terms many times. She is quite capable of digging in her heels and doing whatever the hell she wants - wrong or right. It’s a convenient deflection from people that Mini tries to “control” her. Mini has tried to stop her from ruining her relationships and life from time to time. Uska Ab Yeh phal mil raha hai that her mom will accuse her of siding with her father. Lol

Babita worked on the shop to prove a point to Ashok but now she is conveniently blaming Mini and trying to claim Mini forced her into doing what Mini wanted 🙄🙄. She twists situations per her convenience to get her way.

And lol yes, she didn’t spare a thought for Mini when she said she wants to go with HS on his posting.....suddenly beti became an afterthought and all she wanted was to cling to pati. Cuz she can’t balance. 🤷‍♀️....and if someone questions her, she conveniently says she’s just demanding her “haq”🙄😂. Waah kya “haq” hai jismein beti ki responsibility didn’t even factor in remotely. Lol

Anyways, it’s been proven a 100 different ways that Babita can’t balance relationships....one relationship will always suffer at the cost of another. And even the relationship she focuses on, she’s obsessive about in an unhealthy manner.

Overall the most disappointing thing in her character is her pettiness....the fact that she can’t savor her happiness unless she can show off to Ashok or other people 🙄🤦‍♀️.

Originally posted by: naq5

Well the sad part is they will not be happy with being around her either. It's a day or two of happiness and another one day of roz roz ka kalesh.

They will everytime have to live putting their interests and feelings behind which will only damage them further.

Yes, it’s a lose lose both ways, sadly 🤷‍♀️.

They will be suffocated in trying to suppress their emotions and feelings at her cost if they stay with her and if they leave her, the guilt of abandoning her will also never let them be at peace 🤷‍♀️

Babita is a damaged soul....a victim of 17 years of suffocation and trauma....and now she will ironically create new victims thanks to her own failings. Sigh.