Originally posted by: inlieu
Gosh, reading your post above, I felt as if you were mirroring my thoughts. Hi-five for that!
Exactly, he would want her to come to him of her own free will, because she wants him for herself. It also depends if the writers are bold enough to show Babita falling in love with another (good) man and "living happily ever after" with him. That would be the whole point of her emancipation that she chooses whoever she wants without pressure, guilt, or excess baggage.
Babita may either choose to marry someone else and leave the haveli, or she might choose to remain single but move out of the house. After all, now that she is doing well, she can afford a place of her own, right? Why are they still living with him? They aren't strapped for cash and Babita's fame would make it easy for her to find an apartment now. I think that if she is meant to be with HS, then she has to move out before she can come back to this house as a bride. It would only be fitting.
If Babita has a new husband but Minnie maintains her ties with HS, which I think she will no matter what, then he will still survive, though he will keep within his boundaries where Babita is concerned. I frankly don't see Minnie accepting anyone as a (step) father except HS. He has taken over her fragile heart and will be there forever. I would not underestimate Minnie's role in how his future shapes up because they connect on so many levels that Babita will never share with either of them.
Otherwise, HS will not just drown himself in alcohol, I think his soul will die, especially if Minnie leaves as well. I just can't imagine an old, fraying HS being paid occasional visits by Minnie to see her "uncle". If he doesn't go beyond Devdas and die of cirrhosis of the liver first. Minnie will travel the world for studies and work, as he would want to, and HS will be left all alone. Unless, of course, they have the courage to show that once she becomes an adult she fights for him, to keep him in her life as her father and declare it to the world, regardless of her mother's marital status. HS has done for her in a few months what Ashok could not and would not do in his entire life. Minnie has never cared about what people say and she will understand that she can never leave HS once again childless, the way he never left her fatherless since he entered her life.
I frankly wouldn't mind any of these endings as long as it is justified.
Right back at ya!
I'm in two minds about Babes and her being with someone else. On one hand, of course she has the freedom to choose whoever she wants, but as a viewer, this new person better be worth it. The writers need to invest enough time to prove why this new man is a good for both Babes and Mini. Is he considerate of their past? Has he made the efforts to know them? Does he have any expectations of them and if yes, what are they? Not to mention, his family and their expectations of Babes and Mini. Does he live with his parents? If yes, what kind of people are they? What kind of daughter-in-law do they want and would they be okay with having a teenage step-daughter? What are their views on a divorcee? Or the fact that Babes has been living with another man for almost a year (even though it's just as a tenant, this issue has been brought up many times before, it will most definitely be brought up again).
It's not a bad thing to introduce another good man. It will simply showcase how there are both bad and good people. HS isn't the only good man left in the world. There are others who are also capable of being just as good as him. Plus, it'll give Mini another perspective on men too. Yes, she sees HS as a role model, but she still harbors a lot of bitterness and resentment towards men as a whole. She was like that with Mickey and when she found out about HS's feelings towards Babes, she was quick to judge him too.
As a viewer, we have seen first hand how HS has handled Babes and Mini during all their turmoils. He intimately knows all their pains and sufferings and has seen how they have risen from ashes to the top. And I think he told this to Naeem Bi that he doesn't want a Babes who is wholly dedicated to him because he knows it won't be true. She has a traumatic past and a lot of relations that she can't just let go of overnight. It's the same thing with him. Imarti's passing hasn't lessened his love for her. Rather, it grew immensely to the point that it bled into his daily life and in some ways, into his relationship and love for Babes too. Yes, he took Babes and Mini in because that's what Imarti would have wanted, but him giving Imarti's karchi and diya to Babita was in a way keeping her alive as well. In the same way, yes, Ashok has been sent away to London, but that doesn't erase the fact that his presence is still there with them. Mini's whole existence will be a reminder of him. As well as Babes' catering business and any other ventures she goes on. If it weren't for Ashok's cruelness, she would never have gotten the push that she needed to embark on this self journey.
Babes absolutely has no financial problem in leaving the haveli but I think the only thing that's making her stay is HS. When Minni was insisting on leaving, she could have agreed. After all, her daughter's happiness comes first, but she didn't. In some ways, HS has become such an integral part of their lives, it'll be hard to keep going without him in it. In some ways, it's all the happiness and sorrow they have shared, but it's also just about having that company around. It really is like having a family. If even one person is gone, it feels like something is missing.
I agree with you on that. Despite Imarti, HS was able to find love again. However, having a child and being a father is something he was never able to experience until Minni came around. If Minni gives him the status and rights of being a father to her, then he would willingly sacrifice his love for Babes just so that he can keep that father-child bond alive. I also feel like Minni will become a lot more mature because of HS. He has his own share of sorrow, griefs, and trauma but he still manages to have an optimistic outlook on life. There have been many situations where HS has been angered and as a police officer, he could have taken undue advantage of his power and authority but he never did. He never once let his anger dictate his actions and this is something that Minni could benefit a lot from learning. She lets her anger take complete control over her and she ends up doing a lot more damage than good.
It will be very complicated because I can't see Minni giving anyone else a fatherly status than HS. If Babes marries someone else, then I can see Minni sharing very superficial things but when it comes to some sort of crises, or just wanting to rant/vent, share some highly good news like an acceptance for a college etc. - all these would be shared with HS first. Minni didn't really ever have a father and all the things she shared with HS, she didn't do it with the mindset of I'm doing this because you're my dad now. She simply shared and he helped her. He continues to guide her even when she makes really bad mistakes and that's something Minni can't just ignore. If she can't let some random person into her Babes' life, then there's no way that she'll kick HS out for them.
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