*Discussion Of The Week #5 Cousin Marriages In Pakistani Dramas* - Page 4

yes hina i agree on that ...it is sensitive subject ,hence I said I don't judge, though personally I am not at all in favor of that. There are defects with same genome as in same community, but chances are quiet less than first cousins specially double cousins whose both set of parents are siblings

it is very sensitive topic specially in community where it is culturally and religiously okay.For a culture where it is more cultural matter it is easier to bring changes...eg we indians have this dahej pratha--dowry it is not religious so it was easy to be considered a vice of society, same about widow remarriage.

Originally posted by: sami011

yes hina i agree on that ...it is sensitive subject ,hence I said I don't judge, though personally I am not at all in favor of that. There are defects with same genome as in same community, but chances are quiet less than first cousins specially double cousins whose both set of parents are siblings

it is very sensitive topic specially in community where it is culturally and religiously okay.For a culture where it is more cultural matter it is easier to bring changes...eg we indians have this dahej pratha--dowry it is not religious so it was easy to be considered a vice of society, same about widow remarriage.

Cousin marriages are widely practiced in our family. My parents were cousins, my grandparents were cousins, even my aunts and uncles. Still most of us are completely normal thankfully. Then I also have some family friends who dont even practice family marriage but they have more than one abnormal kid😭 My mums friend has 2 daughters who are mentally abnormal, my brother in laws wife also has 3 brothers who cant talk or walk they have some muscle deficiency (you know like it was shown Donya had it in ishq zeh naseeb) and 2 of the brothers even died in a young age because of it

Originally posted by: Unique.Sheep

Cousin marriages are widely practiced in our family. My parents were cousins, my grandparents were cousins, even my aunts and uncles. Still most of us are completely normal thankfully. Then I also have some family friends who dont even practice family marriage but they have more than one abnormal kid😭 My mums friend has 2 daughters who are mentally abnormal, my brother in laws wife also has 3 brothers who cant talk or walk they have some muscle deficiency (you know like it was shown Donya had it in ishq zeh naseeb) and 2 of the brothers even died in a young age because of it

But from family point of view I do think the cousin issue can affect relationship between both set of parents who love each other and are close. So that can be valid reason to avoid.But since it's allowed to you guys..it should be done only if 2 people are in love. Arranged ones may cause complications

Originally posted by: sami011

u know hina...it is mostly true that cousin's kids would have higher chance of issues but kids of second cousin's are affected less but you are right there are many examples in non related people too.But in my culture the reasoning is never given as birth defects etc...it is just considered unacceptable. I mean guy from ssme village is not related to you and sometimes in villages like my ancestral village people are not even from same last name...as they have come from different home villages in Pakistani Punjab...even then it is forbidden...the guy is your dharam ka Bhai...and it is very diligently practiced...nothing is right or wrong...Just cultural norms matter...for us our cousins are brothers like sibling...from childhood we tie Rakhi...

But from family point of view I do think the cousin issue can affect relationship between both set of parents who love each other and are close. So that can be valid reason to avoid.But since it's allowed to you guys..it should be done only if 2 people are in love. Arranged ones may cause complications

@maroon . It is only nowadays, because of the huge change in society . This practice (cousin marriage ) happened since more than a thousand years. Ppl should've realized it since ages that cousin marriages can affect the relationships between families. But no. Ppl then were wiser than us. They learned how to deal with such problems without letting them affect their relatives. But now .. ppl are growing intolerance. I am scared of thinking of future.😒

@Blue . I still find it strange how can a village guys become your brothers. I am surprised that in the whole village no one falls in love with another!😲

Originally posted by: Unique.Sheep

Apparently research shows that marriage in the same race also increases risk of birth defects. So cousin marriages cannnot be solely blamed. There are so many kids in other religions who do not even practice cousin marriages but still have birth defects

Originally posted by: ItsmeSehar

Cousin marriage is common in my family. Most of my relatives who married their cousins ​​are still childless. My uncle was married 25 years ago but still has no children.

why are they childless?

Originally posted by: sami011

u know hina...it is mostly true that cousin's kids would have higher chance of issues but kids of second cousin's are affected less but you are right there are many examples in non related people too.But in my culture the reasoning is never given as birth defects etc...it is just considered unacceptable. I mean guy from ssme village is not related to you and sometimes in villages like my ancestral village people are not even from same last name...as they have come from different home villages in Pakistani Punjab...even then it is forbidden...the guy is your dharam ka Bhai...and it is very diligently practiced...nothing is right or wrong...Just cultural norms matter...for us our cousins are brothers like sibling...from childhood we tie Rakhi...

But from family point of view I do think the cousin issue can affect relationship between both set of parents who love each other and are close. So that can be valid reason to avoid.But since it's allowed to you guys..it should be done only if 2 people are in love. Arranged ones may cause complications

Cousin marriages should only be acceptable when the guy and girl are interested in each other. No other reason.

Originally posted by: Unique.Sheep

why are they childless?

https://www.nytimes.com/2002/04/04/us/few-risks-seen-to-the-children-of-1st-cousins.html

Originally posted by: awida

Thank you for the informations. It is strange that although I am a big fan of Indian movies I didn't understand that cousin marriages is forbidden.😲

I can understand how you feel about cousin marriages. I feel the same reading about siblings marriages in the history of ancient Egyptians. 😃

I remembered once I watched an Indian movie in which a boy and a girl where in love. Her father too was in love with his mother. So one of the couples only could get married. I kept wondering why it was wrong for both the couples to get married ! 😕

As an Indian and a non Muslim, I am knowledgeable enough to explain this fact. I am not trying to hurt anyones sentiment, just posting some information.

Whenever there is inter family marriage, especially in immediate family like cousin marriages there are chances that the babies born won't be healthy. Researchers have proven this scientifically. Even the Parsi community is facing the same problem since they were forbidden by the King to spread Zoroastrianism when they had arrived at India.

Communities in South India do have such practices but that is also pretty rare. In North India we have the gotra system as mentioned...its as ancient as time itself and scientific so getting married in different gotras does not cause the issues I stated above.

Also we have various festivals like Raksha Bandhan and Bhai Dooj where we celebrate the bond between a brother and sister; the brother vows to protect his sister from evil and promises he will be there for her always while the sister prays for his long health. I do not have siblings but I have many cousins and celebrate with them. Thus cousin marriages are unimaginable to us. Whether it is first or third cousin, we feel uncomfortable with the notion.

So scientifically or religiously, it is wrong for us. And we don't look at our cousins with that neutral perspective, they are always 'bhaiya' (brother) or 'behen' (sister). That line's etched.

The movie that you are talking about would be wrong at so many levels, that the parents and the step siblings would both be a couple. This isn't cousin marriage at all so a line is drawn necessarily.