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Originally posted by: Shwets1502

True...Good point about the forum.

Collective happiness is important and to a certain extent, individuals too have to sacrifice for it, but not to the extent of the life getting spoiled. Also, the individual should be willing to sacrifice, and not forced don't you think?

Yes. When it comes to serious life decisions, individual's happiness has to be seen, as at the end, the individual shouldn't blame the family for ruining their life.

Originally posted by: Teogapi

only when basic happiness is there collective happiness can bring in satisfaction. and for that each and everyone should contribute not one person all the time. if it is like that the person is bound to get frustrated and will blast for sure.

Originally posted by: Ekstase

I think it's a difficult question, morally seen. Can you sacrifice one life to save many? Compromise the life of an individual for the sake of many? It's not easy to find an answer and I think it mostly depends on the situation as such. Like in this case: What will the rest of the family get out of it if Sukku stays in GS? Yes, it might be the easy way out and he'll be integrated in the family business- but for the business, they can also find other workers, can't they? Whereas Sukku is definitely not happy working there and wants to chase his dreams - he's ready to take risks if it means coming closer to his dreams. Same goes for Umesh.

In this case, the individual is more important.

And also: If we have to decide between family's happiness and individual's, we should also consider- is it really the family's happiness or their ego? Their pride? Why wouldn't the family find happiness in our happiness?

Originally posted by: Shwets1502

I talk to my mom then...😆

85 today...😊

Originally posted by: Teogapi

ur mom will agree???😲😆

only 5 pages more.

Originally posted by: Shwets1502

I think when individuals in the house are happy, the family is happy collectively. Else, in one corner, the individual making the compromise would always be sad and frustrated, as in the case of Ramesh.

I really liked how Lakshmi said, that for the sake of Rupan's daughters' future, they cannot ruin Umesh's life for that. Ramesh saying, he wouldn't sacrifice Nisha's life to save someone else's. I think that point is more stronger than Dadi's point.

As you said, Sukku working in GS would make no difference to anyone...he works well, doesn't work...no one would care as the business would still be running...but only Sukku would be suffering as he doesn't want to be in GS and has other ideas.

I didn't understand the connection of family to ego.

Also...taking the Gangwals...how does Ramesh's compromise keeps the family happy? 😕

Originally posted by: Shwets1502

I think when individuals in the house are happy, the family is happy collectively. Else, in one corner, the individual making the compromise would always be sad and frustrated, as in the case of Ramesh.

I really liked how Lakshmi said, that for the sake of Rupan's daughters' future, they cannot ruin Umesh's life for that. Ramesh saying, he wouldn't sacrifice Nisha's life to save someone else's. I think that point is more stronger than Dadi's point.

As you said, Sukku working in GS would make no difference to anyone...he works well, doesn't work...no one would care as the business would still be running...but only Sukku would be suffering as he doesn't want to be in GS and has other ideas.

I didn't understand the connection of family to ego.

Also...taking the Gangwals...how does Ramesh's compromise keeps the family happy? 😕

Originally posted by: Shwets1502

I think Dadi is living in the illusion that everyone in the family are happy. Actually, it's just not Ramesh, but even Moren aren't happy with their lives, are they?

Ramesh had to compromise because he had the determination to fight, which he had to suppress.