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Posted: 14 years ago
@Urmi :LOL ... I hear you ... I actually didn't have time , and thruout watching I kept telling myelf - are you crazy or what? But just had to - to catch up on current track! Addiction!
Ill be slogging tonight to catch up on these 2+ hrs of work I wasted .. Oh well! Chalta hai, kabhi kabhi😛!
Do catch todays Episode - good one!
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Posted: 14 years ago

Originally posted by: geno0309

Wonderful discussion ladies log...take a bow:) had a nice time reading all your takes on the episode and in general abt divorce and marriage and compatibility!

@Anjali...loved your take hun🤗you do bring out valid points...and its nice to see from your take that the story and acting seems to be getting back on track..lets keep our fingers crossed:)

Btw loved your adage on choices on the poll😛

@Shaina...you are brave for catching up on all the episodes, but you are also right abt how watching all at a go actually makes kinda sense even if the episodes are sucky!
Like the things you bring to foray...lets hope the writer ladies will redeem themselves and do justice to the story line and answer all unanswered questions!

I haven't seen the episode yet...but thanks to you guys have a clear picture of the happenings...and I want to give my two cents on marriage,divorce etc...

-I am a proponent of divorce if it is making either or both the individuals unhappy for whatever reason...like Shilpa said, and I completely agree with her and truly believe you have only one life, and you should spend that doing and being in a relationship that makes you happy.

-I guess all us agree it goes without saying in cases like infidelity and physical/mental torture divorce is the only way out...if you are strong enough to get out-Renu did because she had her family's support, sadly most women don't! And very rarely women without support think of walking out a marriage coz they haev already lost their confidence, self-esteem etc to be able to be independent!

-Lastly abt divorce based on incompatibility issues...something that is so commonly attached to our generation-maybe rightly so-I blame the institution of marriage here. There is so much importance attached to this institution that there is sub-conscious pressure on women and men to get married to be viewed as a successful, well settled person.

I believe in the institution, but I also believe it is not for everyone and it should not be one of the things you do in life like getting a degree, finding a job or buying a house! In my opinion marriages that are failing today coz of frivolous reasons are because the couple got married for the wrong reasons and hence ended up with wrong people.

Give individuals space, choice and freedom abt making the decision, and when they make that choice...why is it nessary for a girl to get married in her 20s? and men before 32? why this pressure?? When you get into something knowing very well what you want, and being happy abt that decision, you have the will to make it work...if you get into something coz its time, or coz you are lonely and desperate...you end up making the wrong choice!!



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enjoyed reading your two cents before gettign back home dear..
I must say we have such great, matured people on the adda it just makes the entire show so much worth while at imes...
@Bold...I agree ot what you have said..i think with our generation things are not working that well because..most of the people are not ready for marraige and they are being forced into it and anythign thats done with force does not work well..
but i also fell the younger generation is losing the imortance of relationship and they are attracted to more line-in relationahips and not marraiges, because they want to enjoy but not take any responsibility..this is what i hate abt our generation to be true..and that is also one of the reasons behind so many divores lately..as soon as compromises and adjustment pop up thir head..instead of trying to work things out..they just want to break the knot and set themselves free...which is not right...
@sHILPA..hI dear..was wondering where you were.
OK gals..time to go..will catch up with you all later..till the nenjoy the rest of your day/evening...
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Posted: 14 years ago
@Urmi..isn't the adda the bestest place ever😃

I agree with what you say too...but I don't understand why patience levels are down in the current folks? everyone wants to be in love and enjoy a happy relationship...so it doesn't make sense to me!-times like these that I feel am growing old-heheh


Have a great evening sweets and sleep well tonight:0
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Posted: 14 years ago

I have not seen the epi yet and so cannot comment.

I have a question. I am not for divorce unless there is no choice or you have tried it all and still does not work. But if the younger gen is all for divorce at the slightest fight then would it not be better if they live in together. I believe that marriage is an institution and not to be taken lightly and if you are not sure of yourself living together might be the option
I am getting ready to duck knowing that I will be getting eggs, tamatar etc thrown at me.
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Posted: 14 years ago
@Soumya .. very well said: that marriage is not for everyone! I completely agree! And I do belive until the individuals are ready - the pressure of these age defined must ge married - need to be changed!
We see more marraiges failing in our time- for various different reasons! Guess generation before us had many dysfunctional marraiges - but social pressures were higher - thus divorce was not that common.
Have come across many diferent types of divorces in my friends & family circles: sme were arranged marraiges - some were love marraiges! - the reasons were infideality / dysfunctional arranged marraige/ money / greencard // overambition/ lack of understanding/ family torcher /// you name it!
One thing I noticed in most of them - which was common was- generally person at fault - moves on faster! The innocent one suffers more - perhaps because he/she is hurt more!
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Posted: 14 years ago

Originally posted by: ilunavya

I have not seen the epi yet and so cannot comment.

I have a question. I am not for divorce unless there is no choice or you have tried it all and still does not work. But if the younger gen is all for divorce at the slightest fight then would it not be better if they live in together. I believe that marriage is an institution and not to be taken lightly and if you are not sure of yourself living together might be the option
I am getting ready to duck knowing that I will be getting eggs, tamatar etc thrown at me.

I am all for marraige - but it is something that requires a lot of give & take, understanding & to an extent tolerance!
In todays time - i do feel - parents must give kids enough time - be it a love marraige or arranged - give them enough time to understand each other! Longer courtship time can sometime save furture marraige woes!
But then again - I have seen people in relationship for good 7+ years & getting divorce after 2 years of marraige!
Other thing these days is: infideality is So common - & easy! Social networking, websites like craigslist - kind of easily boost these things! Especially when one partener is like Gautam - who at any given opportunity is ready to let loose!🤢
Chalo girls.. me to need to be back at work table! see ya all later :)
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Posted: 14 years ago
@Isha...I will be with you getting the ande and tamatar..I am actually a proponent of live-ins:) Not because it is cool and the in thing, but because it is a great way to see if you are indeed compatible and can stand each other under one roof...coz being in love is one thing and living together is another:)

@Shaina...interesting perspective...thanks, I have always wondered what are the real reasons for ppl divorcing each other, when the reasons are not obvious...and very rightly said abt the the silent sufferers being affected the most..guess it doesn't pay to be attached to your spouse/bf/fiance these days!!!

Abt infidelity...I have always believed one does not look outside of marriage if one is happy and content...why do you need to cheat if you are happy with one another?the fact that you are cheating means you are not happy with your spouse..unless of course if you are compulsive cheaters like Gautam. is it too simplistic view on my part??
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Posted: 14 years ago
Isha, Shaina, Soumya, Urmi...awesome perspectives and discussion.👏
I guess I forgot to mention that although I am not an encourager of divorce and I am sure no one is unless you belong to a planet in a distant galaxy like Kim kardashian. But like you all said if the going gets tough its best to opt out of it.
As far as why this is more prevalent with our generation Shaina I agree with you 100% . Its the social pressure that stopped them from such extreme decision. In today's world and our generation I think we undergo much more stress. My mom was working too, but she says the times she has seen in regards to education/ job/work were slightly simpler. Also me thinks that our generation wants a lot more from life "Hazaron khwaishen aisi ki har khwaish pe dum nikle..bahut nikle mere arman lekin phir bhi kum nikle.." :). This is just my POV and I am trying to analyze the situation...
Hence we tend to lack in patience and tolerance..
Everyone has to do a compromise in some way or the other, love marriage or arranged marriage. Navya infact already knows the compromises she will be making. Just to name a few...Loonie parivar and no career after shaadi. Anant if supports her compromises on the so called sanskar his family follows.

As for live in relationship, I dont think I am in favor of it..and I may sound really oldie here..but where there is no offcial commitment, it stands lesser chance for endurement..me thinks and have seen this happen with a BFF. Vice versa has happened to, they lived in for 1 year and are married for 10 years now...but they are fighting like two kids now. They have so run out patience with each other..that we are scared they may call it quits soon. I am sure it must have worked great for some percentage too .So I guess the question remains..and probably this will never have a definite answer.

I like Navya today, this show has brought up the most sensitive issue which is so less talked about.

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Posted: 14 years ago
Hi guys! Why is it that I'm too lazy to watch yesterday's episode, even though it looked like a good one? Anyways, before I start off with my work, thought I'd share my views on divorce and live in rels and the other stuff that you all have been discussing.

I have seen a lot of failed marriages in my extended family, but none of them have undergone a divorce. Whatever be the case, they have stuck together, even though in many cases the husband wouldn't come home for days and the wife would be screaming her ass of at the kids. In such situations of a failing marriage, it is always the kid who is at loss. If the parents choose to stay together under one roof, the constant taunts and fights between the parents will frustrate the kid to an extent, that he/she may become rebellious and averse to the entire institution of marriage. If the parents do split, then the kid has to endure the mental trauma and anguish of living with a broken family. Why should the kids suffer? Lots of my cousins have had to visit shrinks to deal with issues of rebelliousness and depression and what not.

It is sad that people cannot save their marriages. Marriages are said to be made in heaven, yet I've seen numerous cases of arranged and love marriages failing. Why is this so? Is it cause both the partners are educated and there's an ego clash? Or is it because of too much interference of others in their lives? Its happened a lot of times that people who've been in relationships for like a decade have split within two-three years of getting married. Being 18 and seeing the increasing number of failed marriages around me, I am a bit apprehensive about marriage. Some people say arranged marriages work and are good, cause the parents will always select the right partner for their child after a lot of considerations. Others say that love marriages work cause of the fact that both the partners know each other very well before the marriage, and it is their final decision to tie the knot. Yet, I've seen both type of marriages fail. It is honestly sad to see such stuff happening these days, and in the entire situation I feel very bad for these people's children, who have to live with the anguish and trauma of the fact that their parents are not together. Each couple has its own different issues and each issue has a different solution. I only hope and pray that all the couples are able to sort out their own troubles and issues, if not for themselves, but for their kids.

But again, if infidelity is the cause of a divorce, I don't think either of the partner should ever try to salvage the marriage. What guarantee to do they have that the partner won't do it again? In such cases, the couple needs to split and the child should be in the custody of the more responsible and committed parent.

Sorry if any of this offended you, or if any of you thought this was like a chota mooh badi baat thing.

Lots of Love,

Rit
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Posted: 14 years ago
Hey Rit..you bring out a very key aspect abt divorces- and I agree kids suffer the most in these situations.

-why are we seeing so many divorces? Guess regarding younger couples, everyone very nicely elaborated on possible causes:) as for older couples with kids...my theory is... ppl change with age and time...life's challenges get tougher and tougher, aspirations change and like everyone says rightly, marriage is a lot of work...if the bond that holds two ppl together weakens over time, cause of the above reasons...you can easily fall out of love...so its easy to want to separate!
And I see that...even get that to an extend...what I don't get is when couples forget that they are also parents and are responsible for the kids...you cannot see eye to eye with your spouse, but your love and commitment to your chid should not change no matter what. So couples who ruin the kids' life and future in the process of divorces, are bad parents...period!

-Am of course saying all this from a naive perspective...maybe I would think differently if something like this happened to me personally-but I know I will never let my kids suffer.

-I guess there is no right way/protocol for making a marriage work-you just go with your gut, work towards keeping the marriage going, and hope for the best!:)



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