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Posted: 14 years ago
#21

Originally posted by: laddoo598

Heyy nice post..You bring out some very good points..
The most unerealistic part of of this show is Anant's family and each and everything the loony clan does..Nimmi's marriage, Anant's alliance with Shagun-all of these are very wrong!
Personally I think Anant's family canceling the engagement was actually a good thing..The CVs are going in the right track as of now..For me how Anant and Navya manage to convince their family and get their approval is the major high point of this show..Plus AnYa's relationship is still very new and at the begining stages..Its very normal to secretly go out with someone for years before you tell your family about it in south asian culture..So IMO the CVs did the right thing..They will show Anant and Navya fighting for their love but the time for that hasn't come yet..They both have to mature, their relationship has to mature before any of this confronting happens..



I totally agree with wat u said here esp the bold...
Yes...AnYa is at a stage where disclosure of their relationship can do more damage than good and honestly...does is not wat I was implying either thru my post...

I cannot totally call Anant's family unrealistic coz believe me...even in this day n age I have experience of such families and yes they do exist where they believe in getting kids at such tender married off and these kids have such strict rules imposed on them that they really dont have much say either...and thats why I truly didnt mind this track...I just not happy with the way they are ending it and m not saying that Anant shud have gone up to Baba and told him about his alliance with Navya...but wat m implying is that it shud have been Anant who "does something" as built up by previous scenes (like ritz said...Anant kuch na kuch zarur karega) to avoid having to go thru this engagement...it cud be anything ...any strong reason but wat I was looking for was a strong...focused Anant who has realized wat he wants and wat he doesnt want n will now actions accordingly...

Here they showed him realize and get up to that mark but then all goes down the drain only coz he gives in to wat Navya has to say knowing very well that her decision is not right...Now is he the same Anant who used his zidd to get across to Navya that without trying how will she know that her parents will deny her for the picnic???

I agree the engagement shud not have been put in the first place...but if CVs did decide to show that angle...then they shud have handled it appropriately ensuring the essence of the characters are not being lost...but here in this track...instead of having their lead shine out like stars...they made them weak by concluding it with a sidey...and thats something I personally didnt agree with...

thanks for replying sweets 😳😳

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Posted: 14 years ago
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CVs for one, IMO, chose the wrong track to deal with. I dont have a problem with the engagement track, but it was shown too early in the show. They could have brought this track later on when AnYa would have been more sure of their feelings for each other. As far as Anant not contributing anything significant to stop his engagement is concerned, disclosing AnYa relationship would have meant the story moving in only one direction - families either opposing the relation or getting them married ( saas bahu crap ). So , I'm happy that the whole issue was solved without AnYa having to disclose about their relationship. I agree, not everyone is lucky to have a brainless Shagun to their rescue. The CVs took the easy way forward. It would have been more realistic if they had shown Anant speaking to Baba instead of stammering , reasoning it out with him ( like he did for picnic permission ), about what is the need to get married so soon, or even to just let him know that he would like to stand on his own two feet before he is ready to take up someone else's responsibility. As far as your question about the realism is concerned, I agree, nutcases like Shagun dont really exist in real life. In that case, real life Anants and Navyas can only reason it out with their elders. There are going to be people like Mohan and Nimi supporting them in real life too, if not the entire family.

Now that the engagement track is going to conclude soon, I hope the CVs get back to the original flavour of the show. They should focus on the other neglected tracks now ( Read : Renuka ) . Your post , as usual , was interesting to read, Shilpa.😃

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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: slmu

Nice post.

I was disappointed yest. when I realised that the CVs are taking the easy way out and making it Shagun's fault. No logic. No Anant's family realising that Anant-Shagun are mismatched or too young etc. I agree that it was probably the TRPs ruling the roost once again.
Like the others who have responded to this post, I too feel that Anant's family is totally unbelievable. The CVs have gone to extremes to show the generation gap with utter rubbish like traditional vs modern medicine. The family's behaviour during that was really unbelievable and not at all convincing.


I must admit...that was a lill too extreme for the CVs to show...the entire Anant sick track was very poorly handled but otherwise I dont totally find Anant's family unrealistic only coz I have seen such families and such kinda strict n sterm characters...
Infact just recently a father did "pouring water over his head" act to signify that he from that day onwards claims his daughter dead for him coz she went against his wishes and married a guy she loved...so yes such families do exist and I only wished that CVs cud portray a better picture for the youth who are in a catch 22 situation -, who believes in family values and parents blessings but understands that their 1 wrong step is only further going to ruin lives, - to maybe see n observe ways of dealing with such situations without having to take dractic measures like suicide and wat not which sadly...is still a common n everyday news amongst teenagers till date due to such situations...
Having failed there, they have yet again failed to provide logic in the break up of the engagement. The only logical aspect of it was Navya pointing out realities to Anant. Otherwise, the whole thing is just a cop out.
I feel that the CVs need to take a good look at where they want the show, otherwise whatever they come up with, they may lose the TRPs game.



Thanks for reply hun 😳

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Posted: 14 years ago
#24

Originally posted by: --Naina--

CVs for one, IMO, chose the wrong track to deal with. I dont have a problem with the engagement track, but it was shown too early in the show. They could have brought this track later on when AnYa would have been more sure of their feelings for each other. As far as Anant not contributing anything significant to stop his engagement is concerned, disclosing AnYa relationship would have meant the story moving in only one direction - families either opposing the relation or getting them married ( saas bahu crap ). So , I'm happy that the whole issue was solved without AnYa having to disclose about their relationship. Yes...even I agree that the issue was solved without the disclosure of AnYa relationship and I totally agree with u that their alliance sud not be disclosed at this early stage to begin with...m just not able to digest that the issue got solved at the cost of character assasination of the leads to some extent...I feel that having Shagun conclude this track made Anant look weak n spineless to solve a situation that came across his life and that I think is very de motivating for the youth today!!..

I agree, not everyone is lucky to have a brainless Shagun to their rescue. The CVs took the easy way forward. It would have been more realistic if they had shown Anant speaking to Baba instead of stammering , reasoning it out with him ( like he did for picnic permission ), about what is the need to get married so soon, or even to just let him know that he would like to stand on his own two feet before he is ready to take up someone else's responsibility.

And u still my thots here...This is exactly wat I wud have liked to see or see this track ending with...

As far as your question about the realism is concerned, I agree, nutcases like Shagun dont really exist in real life. In that case, real life Anants and Navyas can only reason it out with their elders. There are going to be people like Mohan and Nimi supporting them in real life too, if not the entire family.

Now that the engagement track is going to conclude soon, I hope the CVs get back to the original flavour of the show. They should focus on the other neglected tracks now ( Read : Renuka ) . Your post , as usual , was interesting to read, Shilpa.😃


Thanks Naina for the warm wordsšŸ¤—...much appreciated and truly hope that CVs handle this potentially a good show better in the upcoming tracks 😳

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Posted: 14 years ago
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The post is interesting sajni and though it may not really relate to this topic I thought I may still go ahead and put this here ,there is one thing which was a bit weird in yesterdays (29th june )episode and that is…..Why did Anant accept to go ahead with the roka even though he was so firm and fully enlightened when he entered the coffee shopšŸ˜•.After all he got this brain wave after so much troubles and now he is again going back to the starting point?

Ok then I concluded that,it was because of Navyaji's lamba talks,but what is she trying to say .Is she trying to say that she wants Anant to marry Shagun because if he won't then her own parents will come to know about Anant(whatever the mean is) and they will be hurt…….very strange excuse.šŸ‘ŽšŸ¼

This is no reason for Anant to marry Shagun. Didn't he say himself that Shagun is not his compatible,ab kya hua…??He can still go ahead and refuse without dragging Navya anywhere between?

In the mean time he too will get some time to spend with Navya,they will get to know each other better and then if some other alliance comes across Anant can tell his family about Navya..

Isn't letting go Anant permanently because she is afraid of her parents reaction is a bit too selfish?Like Anant ,Navya also needs a do or die situation to realize what she wants and how should she get it,and this surely can be achieved without hurting anyone.

At some point everybody will know,only these two should be firm.

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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: piya2025

I cant describe in words how much I loved your post..
& Thanks for bringing it on-The issue here..

You are right & Let me write up a lil before I hit on to the exact point..

I just write somewhere that I have noticed a strange change in All character in the show as i actually cant say they are the same character what Cv's had been shown in the 1st promos-

Anant- Had been shown like a totally level headed,mature nomatter if he's 19 or s'thing,Totally a obedient child of their parents-"Apke bhi kuch sansnkar honghe,hai na" That voice was s'thing but this Anant conveys s'thing else-

Yeah We did saw promo wala Anant in first few epis n Trust me i were really on for a natural,well maintained lovestory,where the guy is quite but expressive,He doesnt laugh like a mad but does smile which can melt heart very easily..Who is a deep thinking not a impulsive.Of late,Anant has been presented as the most impulsive guy,Totally Im impressed how CV"s gave an excellent explanation to make things believeable,n not cheap. but still the question is there,Did we really get to see that level-headed guy which we have seen in the promos & in first few epis?

We leted it go..

Navya- She has been presented way,way too much shy n in darpolk ,where in promos..She was such a bindaas girl..She knows what she likes but yet she known her parents are not wrong "unhone duniya dekhi hai"still she loves to be in her world..She was n't afraid voicing her opinion but in the actual show we hardly see her opening her mouth properly..

Yeah,She speaks but she rather speaks out of her fear,Fear to lossing her familly-The point is if one is so afraid leting her familly get hurt then how & why she leted her fall in love with Anant? She knew her feelings,didn't she?
Yes All these situations,What she has said,her explanations to Anant are real & I really believe what She says but why she is here in all these when she knew these were all on the way.

I'd have rather liked along with Familly she would have thought about her & Anant a bit more..As before falling & after knowing that the person she loves he loves her as well,She cant really force him to stay away n marry someone else as it'll make things worse.For her & for Anant more as with him another life 'll be attached.

Honestly,Those creepy sister freak me out..Characters like them do exits but probably in more cruel way. & Here u go-I dont think any girl 'd do such dumb thing what Shagun 'll be doing.In a way she's making is easy for Anant.. & Thats the worst part..

I mean in real life we r not so lucky that some Shagun 'll come,do a stupid thing n the engagement or shadi 'd be broken..
It made Anant do nothing,Keeping his fail attempts of telling baba dat he's not ready to engage wid Shagun.

We,Do belong to 21st century..

-Some are lucky or stubborn enough to make things go the way we want,Nomatter if our parents are happy or not..Nomatter how conservative our famillies are.

-Some just go with what their parents want them to do..Like Mohan,They dont really even try to think what they actually want coz they fear so much that they just let things go..

-Some try to balance between familly,friends/love/their own world..& Its normal that s'time we even get into argument wid out parents-That doesnt make us bad but its real,We want what we want,We may dont get it but we can fight for it..then its pure luck.

So much i loved the show,equally i have problem with it.. If you dont go by the 1st promos..its all well till Anant goes missing epis.. I like the way CV's gave the explanation of Anant's impulsive behaviors..Navya's fear..but they did make it funny by making Shagun do the thing with Bua-dadi this way we didn't get to see Anant in action.& taking a stand for himself n navya.For their love.

The parents-Navya's are much realistic..Even Anant's familly so much people says its weird actually they are not..in small city such famillies does exits..Where elders try to marry off their kids @ the age of 17/18/19,where parents have the beliefe that 18is the best age to get marry esp its a girl n they want a well settled guy,nomatter if he's 26/27..Its sad,really sad :(Which Cv's had brought as an issue..But I wish they would have enlighten us more on it.

They cant show all tracks in one go & what have been done,its done they cant change it but I want them to show us in upcoming epis how early marriage can be a harm,Renuka's track is on a hold so they can charge it up.
& as for Anant navya-I want them to be shown as normal kids.No shadi bussiness as of now..Let them do projects together.more college activity.Bit romance where navya should learn along with her familly Anant too is now a IMP part of her life widout whom she cant live..& Anant should learn to speak up widout any fear.

More interaction with Navya & her familly...

This way it'd be real..They can show this Shadi things which is also a issue in real life wid teenagers can be shown much more real & intense way.Where I can see The leads taking stand for their rights..

Thanks.

PS_Didn't realize it went this long :P


wow Piya...i juzz luvd wot u said...šŸ‘
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Hey Shilpa, and All;
Yes I am revisiting this post(just because this post is irresistible), to see other peoples reaction, and I must say, I loved and agreed to what most of you had to sayšŸ‘šŸ‘..
I personally had no problem ,with the families ( yes, I have seen such families, they do exist even in minority). I had no problem with the way they built navya and anant charachterization , in this phase of their first encounter with love and the way they handle it .Most of the yougsters get carried away with the feelings and then its too late before they realize or even think about the outcome. The 1 good thing that I like a little about this for now is that navya, even if she is going week everytime Anant pursues her, she is still thinking about the outcome constantly..She understands the risk or problems they will face on thier way.. which is good..
My problem as all of yours is ,..how they handleed the situation..and just made this interesting track ,a peice of comedy..
I am not gonna add anything else to this , only becuase you guys have already put forward so much ,and in such an excellent way that there is nothing more to add, Also , its going to happen now, and so there is no point talking about it now.
I am hopeful, very hopeful..abt that small wondow of improvement that I talked about. They stillhave a chance to bulit this story with more edge to reallism...
1 more thing, I would like to see is.that along with showing how ANant and Navya grow more mature in their relationship and more thoughtful in their approach, CV's can also concentrate on Renuka's track or Nimi's track and display the problems associated with early marraige/early engagmeent. By doing this they will be able to give the families, a reason to think about their beliefs and this indirectly will help anant and navya in getting more time and also face a little less opposition from the family. I hope CV's pay attention to other lingering issues in the serial ,and not just love track of Anant and Navya..
P.S.: once agian lovely post..and I really loved to read all the responses and dicussions.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: nishkala

The post is interesting sajni and though it may not really relate to this topic I thought I may still go ahead and put this here ,there is one thing which was a bit weird in yesterdays (29th june )episode and that is?..Why did Anant accept to go ahead with the roka even though he was so firm and fully enlightened when he entered the coffee shopšŸ˜•.After all he got this brain wave after so much troubles and now he is again going back to the starting point?

Tell me about it...I srsly felt so good about how the CVs showed the entire aftermath of the Anant-Navya love realization...how he got his sudden jolt of reality...how he became confused n torn between his family n his life and then finally realizing wat he really wants...and from here on was wat I expected Anant to take a stand for wat he wanted n believed in n not just chicken out in the name of "listening to wat navya had to say"...I mean he really didnt even have to disclose his alliance with Navya to avoid this engagement...all that I expected was for him to go up to his family and convince them that why he is not ready for this huge step in life...be it wateva else reason he cud give...n m sure if he cud do that during picnic time...then he cud do it here as well!!!
Ok then I concluded that,it was because of Navyaji's lamba talks,but what is she trying to say .Is she trying to say that she wants Anant to marry Shagun because if he won't then her own parents will come to know about Anant(whatever the mean is) and they will be hurt??.very strange excuse.šŸ‘ŽšŸ¼

This is no reason for Anant to marry Shagun. Didn't he say himself that Shagun is not his compatible,ab kya hua???He can still go ahead and refuse without dragging Navya anywhere between?

In the mean time he too will get some time to spend with Navya,they will get to know each other better and then if some other alliance comes across Anant can tell his family about Navya..

Isn't letting go Anant permanently because she is afraid of her parents reaction is a bit too selfish?Like Anant ,Navya also needs a do or die situation to realize what she wants and how should she get it,and this surely can be achieved without hurting anyone.

@ red bold
And u brough out so easily a thot that had crossed my mind the moment I heard her reason as well but I decided to ignore it only coz I tried to reason it out as well and I will explain that in a bit...but yes...on wat u have said above that I bold underlined in BANG ON!!!!
Now coming to my reasoning for giving Navya a benefit of doubt is that from her POV...if say Anant disloses the truth...then yes...maybe the engagement for Anant cud hold off but then the tables turn to her end and her parents come to know about all this without her approaching her parents first and this cud only makes situations worse and then their relationship wud basically get back to square 1...
At some point everybody will know,only these two should be firm.
Totally concur here...there will come a time when they both will have to decid wat they want from this relationship and stand true to it as well...

Thanks for the lovely reply 😳
Edited by sajni786 - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Thank you all for the lovely replies n discussions this post was able to generate and m really glad that lots of you share the same window that I do and while we had some similar thots...there were lots of other inputs n ideas put forth which opened many more windows of the entire spectrum...

Its truly sad how TV shows are subject to a looney game of TRPs (which btw is not even an accurate measure to depict the faith of the show as it does not account for viewer outside india or on the net) and thus kills the essence and the basic message of the show...
I personally n strongly believe...that TV shows are not in this age n era only meant for entertainment purposes but like any other form of media can be a very useful resource in bringing about the much needed changes in the society for the betterment coz ppl are somehow able to connect n relate to shows if they show content that are closely matching with reality and I really do hope that shows like Navya do not deviate from the message they are trying to convey to the audience and the CVs of the show maintain their focus on the theme without paying much of the attention to ridiculous things such as TRPs coz as long as the content is fresh...n can be relatable...the show will have it audience...
1 last messgae also to the CVs...
Leads of the show form the basic foundation of it and making their characters weak at any point in time without justifying their actions can be very harmful to the show and really do hope that in future such blunders are not made like they made with this engagement track!!
Thank you all once again for time n efforts placed in this post!!
Rab Raakha...
Shilpa šŸ¤—
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Hi shilpa,

It is really a nice post ...my view on how things have been going so far .
firstly I started watching this show becoz it had lot of similarity with my life ...the characters and all..

I can say till date about 70-80% of the things in the serial match with my life. I hope none of my family ever comes to know that i am writing personal stuff on forum šŸ˜†
My in-laws are a lot like Anants...they go for satsang ...listen to pravachan..my hubby too has to do all that when he is with them...but in college he behaved exactly as Anant does with friends ..all masti and masak..šŸ˜‰
his family had actually decided to have rista pakka with neighborhood girl ...but just like the present track ..before he could talk to his family to refuse the rishta..the girl herself made huge mistake...
She made fun of his cousins in public and that was it ...they called off the sagai ...

I wud add here that those were initial days ...just like in case of Navi...as relationship grew stroger we got the guts to face our family ...if not for that incident the story wud have been so diffent for me today...The path was not easy after that..we struggled a lot ...but the broken sagai gave us a chance to understand the dept of our relationship more and grow more courage to face the families.

I am actually shocked to see so much similarity with this show...my hubby asks me at times that did I send the story to startplus😊
Like navi ..I was very shy in college..but things changed gradually...
and the famous dialogue-- "mujhe jaana hai"...OMG i don't have a count of how many times i might have said this to my hubby when in college...
half of the time while watching Navya i feel as if I am looking at a flashback of my own life...


And believe me Shilpa such people exist and such things happen...we have struggled for more than 4 yrs to persuade our family for the marriage.

I won't blame CVs for the track they have shown ..yes there is huge difference in the presentation as it is a drama...but regarding the storyline...well it still looks like my story 😊
Edited by smitasmita - 14 years ago

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