The Difference Between Reality n TV (Attn: CVs)

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Hey All...
Today m not really going to indulge much into the epi ...neither m I going to do any character analysis nor m I looking into going deep into their thot process to do my usual diary entries...
I rather wanna bring out a simple question to the floor with the hopes that maybe CVs may have some answers for it as well!!
I have been a viewer of a teenage show like Navya despite being at an age way past those days only becoz of its realism and its sheer genuiness to portray raw feelings of the youth today where modernization ...new age n era thinking is taking over ancient timess n thtos at rocket speed. I was totally gripped into the concept of show "Nayi Soch, Nayi Dhadkan"...expecting some powerful...true to the face value scenes as well as innovative ideas across the board.
Well, I must say...the CVs have been able to some extent bring out some very tremendously applaudable scenes to the plate with utter sincererity and without making it OTT.
Scenes as simple as Anant-Navya street crossing became so symbolic and gave a new definition to a normal day to day act that prolly most of us didnt even realise until we saw such display...Scenes as beautiful n meaningful as Deepak conversing with his mom about how he did not want to make the mistakes he did with his first daughter by being overly strict and scenes such as Anant asking his Baba for permission to go to the picnic with dialogues worth golden points...These are such scenes that add in to the viewers expectation from the show along with adding a unique flavor to keep them hooked on as well...
However, off late the CVs seem to have been failing partially to deliver this uniqueness and the realism factor in AnYa story which I wud say is the basic USP of the show.
I know many of u here on the forum are extremely happy with Anant's engagement being called off and are rejoicing on the fact that now AnYa will be back on track after the exit of Shagun...And honestly speaking, I geninunely have no issues in Anant's engagement being called off ...infact ...it was very much bound to happen...My issue is rather on the track chosen to call off the engagement. Yes, the sister duo was shown to be totally wacko and overly ridiculous and thus showing making Shagun the reason behind the cancellation does make sense and I dont have any questions on it either...My question is rather on the realism factor to this track...
What Anant and Navya have been through...their encounters...their feelings...their environment...both at home and at college is something most of us go through if not all. We do have parents...families and their rules n values laid upon us since childhood but when we go out into the world...we bump into various outside factors that make us question on lots of things we do or believe and am not saying anyone is right or wrong here...am just saying that such things do happen and we at that point dont know the answers to them and sometimes while such things lead us to outgrow into better individuals/ human beings...it also can lead us to the path of self destruction.
The problem that Anant is facing currently is something that lots of youth face today...(that is...being torn between family and ur life) and somewhere after the Anant-Baba Picnic permission scene, I truly was expecting some commendable scenes which can be inspirational n even become guidelines for not only youth but also the parents/guardians. By making Shagun the sacrifcial lamb (in terms of scriptwriting), I dont see any such scope...coz in reality...there's not always going to be a Shagun to begin with and if there is...she does not necessarily have to be as dumb as shown in this show or better still do such "non-calculated" act of digging her own grave esp if her motive is to become part of the family for selfish reasons...
So I ask this question...What then???
I mean, what shud real life Anant or Navya do in such cases where they know that they are in love with someone else and will not justify anyone but rather spoil 3 lives by marrying a third one??? How shud he/she approach the family members esp if they are as strict as one that Anant has (and trust me, there are still some families that are extremely conservative and makes a huge deal in such situations)??
Here the CVs seem to have taken the easy route to take the story forward and I dont blame them coz they are only doing their business which heavily depends on TRPs and obviously with the lack of AnYa scenes recently, this may have been put on stake but wat about the realism of the story and the theme "nayi soch, nayi Dhadkan"??
If going by the theme...I really dont see the nayi soch or nayi dhadkan in this scenario like I saw in the Anant-Baba picnic permission scene. I fail to see how the "nayi soch" slowly but subtly n with equal respects for age old values move ahead of the game convincing the elders that there is nothing wrong in "CHANGE"!!!
Well I suppose, here comes the difference of this being just a mere TV show Vs what really happens in the real world!!!!!!
Rab Raakha...
Shilpa🤗
PS. This post is merely for healthy discussion and am open to all ur ideas n inputs.

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Posted: 14 years ago
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ok, hiii dear!😳

yest. actually was very tired socouldn't comment!😕

ok, this is srsly, one of the best post i have ever come across on IF!👏

amazing post!👏


Edited by ar.arsh - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Hi Shilpa

I think you've echoed what I have been thinking ever since today's precap came out. I am a bit disappointed that neither Anant did nor said anything interesting to his elders in this issue.

My theory is that this engagement track has started losing viewership so cvs have taken the "least messy" way out of the problem. It is a bit lame to get Shagun to make an unforced error and thus get Anya romance back on, but I am ok with this as long as the cvs confront this issue (convincing your parents about choosing your own partner) at some point in the show. I feel that Anant's engagement was a bad script move, artificially thrust into the storyline and I'm glad to move on to more realism (hopefully).

You ask what real life AnYa should do - my (boring?) answer would be to get a degree first and stand on their own feet! So that even if they have to take a drastic step they are financially capable of going it alone (if it comes to that). What do you think?
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Posted: 14 years ago
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I cant describe in words how much I loved your post..
& Thanks for bringing it on-The issue here..

You are right & Let me write up a lil before I hit on to the exact point..

I just write somewhere that I have noticed a strange change in All character in the show as i actually cant say they are the same character what Cv's had been shown in the 1st promos-

Anant- Had been shown like a totally level headed,mature nomatter if he's 19 or s'thing,Totally a obedient child of their parents-"Apke bhi kuch sansnkar honghe,hai na" That voice was s'thing but this Anant conveys s'thing else-

Yeah We did saw promo wala Anant in first few epis n Trust me i were really on for a natural,well maintained lovestory,where the guy is quite but expressive,He doesnt laugh like a mad but does smile which can melt heart very easily..Who is a deep thinking not a impulsive.Of late,Anant has been presented as the most impulsive guy,Totally Im impressed how CV"s gave an excellent explanation to make things believeable,n not cheap. but still the question is there,Did we really get to see that level-headed guy which we have seen in the promos & in first few epis?

We leted it go..

Navya- She has been presented way,way too much shy n in darpolk ,where in promos..She was such a bindaas girl..She knows what she likes but yet she known her parents are not wrong "unhone duniya dekhi hai"still she loves to be in her world..She was n't afraid voicing her opinion but in the actual show we hardly see her opening her mouth properly..

Yeah,She speaks but she rather speaks out of her fear,Fear to lossing her familly-The point is if one is so afraid leting her familly get hurt then how & why she leted her fall in love with Anant? She knew her feelings,didn't she?
Yes All these situations,What she has said,her explanations to Anant are real & I really believe what She says but why she is here in all these when she knew these were all on the way.

I'd have rather liked along with Familly she would have thought about her & Anant a bit more..As before falling & after knowing that the person she loves he loves her as well,She cant really force him to stay away n marry someone else as it'll make things worse.For her & for Anant more as with him another life 'll be attached.

Honestly,Those creepy sister freak me out..Characters like them do exits but probably in more cruel way. & Here u go-I dont think any girl 'd do such dumb thing what Shagun 'll be doing.In a way she's making is easy for Anant.. & Thats the worst part..

I mean in real life we r not so lucky that some Shagun 'll come,do a stupid thing n the engagement or shadi 'd be broken..
It made Anant do nothing,Keeping his fail attempts of telling baba dat he's not ready to engage wid Shagun.

We,Do belong to 21st century..

-Some are lucky or stubborn enough to make things go the way we want,Nomatter if our parents are happy or not..Nomatter how conservative our famillies are.

-Some just go with what their parents want them to do..Like Mohan,They dont really even try to think what they actually want coz they fear so much that they just let things go..

-Some try to balance between familly,friends/love/their own world..& Its normal that s'time we even get into argument wid out parents-That doesnt make us bad but its real,We want what we want,We may dont get it but we can fight for it..then its pure luck.

So much i loved the show,equally i have problem with it.. If you dont go by the 1st promos..its all well till Anant goes missing epis.. I like the way CV's gave the explanation of Anant's impulsive behaviors..Navya's fear..but they did make it funny by making Shagun do the thing with Bua-dadi this way we didn't get to see Anant in action.& taking a stand for himself n navya.For their love.

The parents-Navya's are much realistic..Even Anant's familly so much people says its weird actually they are not..in small city such famillies does exits..Where elders try to marry off their kids @ the age of 17/18/19,where parents have the beliefe that 18is the best age to get marry esp its a girl n they want a well settled guy,nomatter if he's 26/27..Its sad,really sad :(Which Cv's had brought as an issue..But I wish they would have enlighten us more on it.

They cant show all tracks in one go & what have been done,its done they cant change it but I want them to show us in upcoming epis how early marriage can be a harm,Renuka's track is on a hold so they can charge it up.
& as for Anant navya-I want them to be shown as normal kids.No shadi bussiness as of now..Let them do projects together.more college activity.Bit romance where navya should learn along with her familly Anant too is now a IMP part of her life widout whom she cant live..& Anant should learn to speak up widout any fear.

More interaction with Navya & her familly...

This way it'd be real..They can show this Shadi things which is also a issue in real life wid teenagers can be shown much more real & intense way.Where I can see The leads taking stand for their rights..

Thanks.

PS_Didn't realize it went this long :P
Edited by piya2025 - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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hey sweetz...will wait to hear from u 😳
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: anantanant

Hi Shilpa

I think you've echoed what I have been thinking ever since today's precap came out. I am a bit disappointed that neither Anant did nor said anything interesting to his elders in this issue.


My theory is that this engagement track has started losing viewership so cvs have taken the "least messy" way out of the problem. It is a bit lame to get Shagun to make an unforced error and thus get Anya romance back on, but I am ok with this as long as the cvs confront this issue (convincing your parents about choosing your own partner) at some point in the show. I feel that Anant's engagement was a bad script move, artificially thrust into the storyline and I'm glad to move on to more realism (hopefully).

You ask what real life AnYa should do - my (boring?) answer would be to get a degree first and stand on their own feet! So that even if they have to take a drastic step they are financially capable of going it alone (if it comes to that). What do you think?

Ahhh...it feels so good to come to the point in simple words as such...
Yes...its truly been upsetting to see realize that a promising show such as Navya is failing to deliver and again its coz of the loops of TRP game and its utterly sad as well...
Honestly speaking...I didnt mind the engagement track at all ever since it was announced...infact I even made a post on wat I wanted to see and I truly felt that this engagement track help bring in the nayi soch n nayi dhadkan concept but ofcourse...the responsibilities lay on the shoulders of the leads whereas here...they made Shagun the character in motion!!! Like u said...I was anticipating some power packed scenes with Anant n his family and him being on the center stage giving his POV of how he perceives life and why he does not want to go forth with this important aspect of life just yet...and did not necessarily had to entail the disclosure of AnYa love story if CVs wanted to hold on to that...various reasons like u said...education...immaturity due to age...personal self-esteem, dignity, credibility and ofcourse financial stability cud have all played as good excuses for Anant to bring up and avoid going thru engagement...
Putting shagun to center stage is lowering the credentials of the not all the characters...but of the writers of the show for not being able to come up with innovative n convincing ideas...
As for ur answer...Well I can say that yes...education is defo on the list...but wat I am looking for is a solution where the youth dont even need to take drastic steps of moving away from families but instead is able to put their thots n points across in a convincing manner so that the actual 'change" that is much needed can be brought about smoothly without hurting anyone in the process.
Thanks sweetz for ur lovely reply and time taken to read my post 🤗
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Posted: 14 years ago
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I completely agree - not everyone who faces this problem has the luck of having a dumbo like shagun!! but, i think the cvs will eventually have that conversation/ track... I truly think abhi it was too jaldi for anant to confront his family... i mean they would have been like "tum abhi kitne din ke liye jaane ho is ladki ko?" plus they had nooo inkling at all, so it would be a total bam surprise, which i think wouldnt have been good. i think agar his family found out about navya now, toh surely they would have forced him into marriage or somehow closed the chapter. Im eager to see what comes next!!!
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: piya2025

I cant describe in words how much I loved your post..
& Thanks for bringing it on-The issue here..

thanks sweetz for such warming words

You are right & Let me write up a lil before I hit on to the exact point..

I just write somewhere that I have noticed a strange change in All character in the show as i actually cant say they are the same character what Cv's had been shown in the 1st promos-

Anant- Had been shown like a totally level headed,mature nomatter if he's 19 or s'thing,Totally a obedient child of their parents-"Apke bhi kuch sansnkar honghe,hai na" That voice was s'thing but this Anant conveys s'thing else-

Yeah We did saw promo wala Anant in first few epis n Trust me i were really on for a natural,well maintained lovestory,where the guy is quite but expressive,He doesnt laugh like a mad but does smile which can melt heart very easily..Who is a deep thinking not a impulsive.Of late,Anant has been presented as the most impulsive guy,
Totally Im impressed how CV"s gave an excellent explanation to make things believeable,n not cheap. but still the question is there,Did we really get to see that level-headed guy which we have seen in the promos & in first few epis?

WORD to the underlined esp those lines in pink, totally gave an entire different picture of soft, mellow but strong willed and level headed guy who is totally balanced between modernity and age old customs n traditions and truly that was the impressive part and prolly reason why today I am failing to grasp the conclusion of this engagement track. Fine...he was young...it was all new and he reacted impulsively in his new found feelings...I can even digest that he got confused and was torn between his family n his life as well but then wat happened after he makes a firm decision??? Someone else...that too a side character takes the cake of solving the entire issue??? From wat I depicted in those lines in pink...I truly had hoped for Anant to stand for wat he believed in, in front of his family and without offending anyone of them...make his way thru this situation shining like a true hero convincing them that he is still very much their same son who respects the values instilled in him...but alas!!
We leted it go..

Navya- She has been presented way,way too much shy n in darpolk ,where in promos..She was such a bindaas girl..She knows what she likes but yet she known her parents are not wrong "unhone duniya dekhi hai"still she loves to be in her world..She was n't afraid voicing her opinion but in the actual show we hardly see her opening her mouth properly..

Yeah,She speaks but she rather speaks out of her fear,Fear to lossing her familly-The point is if one is so afraid leting her familly get hurt then how & why she leted her fall in love with Anant? She knew her feelings,didn't she?
Yes All these situations,What she has said,her explanations to Anant are real & I really believe what She says but why she is here in all these when she knew these were all on the way.

Again...u echo my feelings...
True...Navya's character is totally a coin reverse from wat was sketched out in the promos and there seemed so much promising behavior from her which all failed I really had not expected her to go forth with her feelings for Anant even tho she realized them...I mean if u look at those dialogues in red...then she comes across as a person who will never do anything that she knows her parents will not approve of and despite having strong feelings for Anant...I saw her as a person who will not lead on but here she actually kept flowing with wateva Anant was enforcing her with...



I'd have rather liked along with Familly she would have thought about her & Anant a bit more..As before falling & after knowing that the person she loves he loves her as well,She cant really force him to stay away n marry someone else as it'll make things worse.For her & for Anant more as with him another life 'll be attached.
Dont u think this shud have been a given away seeing the Navya who was shown to be an intelligent student ...I mean...Its quite simple to know that now that they have entered into a relationship...just by having Anant shoved away in the name of the family is going to do no good to anyone...I really didnt expect Anant to be mouthing those lines at all...it wud have been rather more realistic if she wud have given Anant options on how to avoid this engagement while not hurting the family members as well and even without having to tell them their budding love story..

Honestly,Those creepy sister freak me out..Characters like them do exits but probably in more cruel way. & Here u go-I dont think any girl 'd do such dumb thing what Shagun 'll be doing.In a way she's making is easy for Anant.. & Thats the worst part..

I mean in real life we r not so lucky that some Shagun 'll come,do a stupid thing n the engagement or shadi 'd be broken..
It made Anant do nothing,Keeping his fail attempts of telling baba dat he's not ready to engage wid Shagun.
Totally agree...yes and that wat I meant to say...when I said gals dont do such dumb things...I mean...firstly...not everyone is lucky like u said to have a "shagun" in such situations to save them and if there is ...then these kinda ppl are rather very creepy and I really dont see them doing things that will harm their own luck...infact they ensure that they make every possible move to ensure they get wat they want...but here they are making Shagun the center stage...and taking a easy way out of this mess...

We,Do belong to 21st century..

-Some are lucky or stubborn enough to make things go the way we want,Nomatter if our parents are happy or not..Nomatter how conservative our famillies are.

-Some just go with what their parents want them to do..Like Mohan,They dont really even try to think what they actually want coz they fear so much that they just let things go..

-Some try to balance between familly,friends/love/their own world..& Its normal that s'time we even get into argument wid out parents-That doesnt make us bad but its real,We want what we want,We may dont get it but we can fight for it..then its pure luck.

So much i loved the show,equally i have problem with it.. If you dont go by the 1st promos..its all well till Anant goes missing epis.. I like the way CV's gave the explanation of Anant's impulsive behaviors..Navya's fear..but they did make it funny by making Shagun do the thing with Bua-dadi this way we didn't get to see Anant in action.& taking a stand for himself n navya.For their love.
Now thats exactly where my problem lies...is they are making the leads weaker in their characterisations and failing to deliever their "nayi soch ..nayi dhadkan"

The parents-Navya's are much realistic..Even Anant's familly so much people says its weird actually they are not..in small city such famillies does exits..Where elders try to marry off their kids @ the age of 17/18/19,where parents have the beliefe that 18is the best age to get marry esp its a girl n they want a well settled guy,nomatter if he's 26/27
..Its sad,really sad :(Which Cv's had brought as an issue..But I wish they would have enlighten us more on it.
BANG ON!!!!...I have never argued with the type of family Anant has coz personally I have seen n experienced such families and I exactly know the type of thot processes that runs in these types of family and therefore I was more intrigued to see how this new generation takes upon in bringing about the much needed change in this thot process without taking drastic measures...

They cant show all tracks in one go & what have been done,its done they cant change it but I want them to show us in upcoming epis how early marriage can be a harm,Renuka's track is on a hold so they can charge it up.
Thats 1 thing even I am really waiting to see...Her story had so much potential much has gotten side tracked and I guess we can safely blame it on TRPs again 😆😆

& as for Anant navya-I want them to be shown as normal kids.No shadi bussiness as of now..Let them do projects together.more college activity.Bit romance where navya should learn along with her familly Anant too is now a IMP part of her life widout whom she cant live..& Anant should learn to speak up widout any fear.
Honestly I want to see Anant n Navya truly understanding wat they have between them...and work their way around it along with their families ...Basically be the new age youth who believe in themselves and in their values at the same time...

More interaction with Navya & her familly...

This way it'd be real..They can show this Shadi things which is also a issue in real life wid teenagers can be shown much more real & intense way.Where I can see The leads taking stand for their rights..

👏👏👏 Very well Said and totally concur with u



Thanks.

PS_Didn't realize it went this long :P


Thanks sweety for awesome reply and the lovely discussion it generated 😳
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You've hit the nail on the head, Shilpa! I imagined youth culture would change in some part because of this show and initially it looked that way but...the unbelievable "get married to your bhabhis sis at 19 with no thought to anything else and dont say a word" storyline is not relatable to most of us anymore ...which is why i feel a disconnect to this show now...it may still be a good story and the face may still be cute but its just another serial now ...what a waste!
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Shipa - You and other respondents, have penned down a lot of question or i shoul say issues ,which i have been thiking a lo too. Before I say anything, you and others who already replied, have expreseed the idea and the situation so well👏👏⭐️, that I have nothing much to add to it. It is very well written and expressed👏👏. so instead of repeating the same again ,I will just put forward something in additon to what already is there...
Coming from the similar age group as your, where we probably have seen it ,done it..or if not done it ourselves but experienced it in some way or the other. The issue of stopping the engagent was very important, which raised our hopes as to depict ,probably what we could have or our friends could have done better , that we did not think at that point. I thought it will engrave a new pathh ,into todays generation but.. Shagun😲..really? Who finds such girl?..I hope everybody was so lucky to have a option of getting rescued by someone like shagun..but that does not happen in real. Nobody, except our belief and strength help us in such situation.. So I am disappointed with how it eneded ,even if I wanted it to iget called off.
Yes TRP won the race over ideology or more realistic story..sad but true..
The only 1 thing that i want to add is, even I am excited about the promo and very happy about it, not just because the engagement is cancelled, the part that excites me the most, is the few last words.which many probably questioned.oreven disliked..
The question by Navya- ab aage kya?. This question still makes me feel there is a window left, in which CV's can actually make effore to answer some of our concerns and show a more realistic ,thoughful process of finding a balance between traditional values and modern ideology. Loving someone is not bad, it is just the matter of experiencing the change and then trying to implement it. I hope CV's pay attention to this part and we see something more realistic in near future. I am very hopefull:-)
P.S - I am typing this in te middle of my class, yes this post was so interesting😊 and it touched me so much, that i cannot wait for my class to get done. so please excuse if there are any spelling or grammatical error...

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