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Posted: 7 years ago
#41
I am glad you posted on the forum!
I am completely on Neil's side, after reading so many perspectives on the forum I was confused. Simi's thread gave a different perspective from a neutral point of view, but this thread gives more clarity on whose side to take.

Naamkarann is based on separation, I dont see any couple on this show together beyond 2-3 episodes.

Avni's fears should have died with Neela ma, but reverse hua, it deepen boring us out. All the point have been expressed pretty elaborately on the thread I dont have much to add, just came to support.

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Posted: 7 years ago
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For all those who feel Neil did a grave crime by "questioning and insulting Avni's motherhood" and Avni didn't insult the same motherhood by hiding her relation with her son from him...
For those who feel "snatching a son" from his mother is wrong but because mother n father can't reconcile, letting a man be deprived of his son even after loving him just because he is not a mother...
For those who feel the newly found father is selfish to want to live his further life with his son because he doesn't think about son's comfort but the mother is not at all selfish to hide about the from his father even after having no threat just because of the fear of the son being snatched away...

GET YOUR PSEUDO FEMINISM CORRECTED

Feminism doesn't mean that the woman is always right and man is always wrong, that woman should always get all her rights and the man should forgo his for her, that only the woman has all the pains and the man is heartless. Feminism means a woman being EQUAL with the man by all means! So don't sypathise with Avni alone just because she is a woman or a mother n her husband n father of her child is supposedly doing wrong with her. Sypathise with both for this child issue!

U gave the child all the love n care n attention n everything, very good, u must have. I agree, mother is a relation that's established more by deeds and hence Avni is a "mother-figure" to Mowgli even since he didn't know about her. But this doesn't change the fact that she was his "mother-figure" and not "mother"...and there's a big difference. Its not only about by what name he calls her, he can continue calling her jaan didi now also...but its about the feeling of being orphan that she instilled in him and she insulted her own motherhood by that. She had a reason to keep him safe, but due to whatever reasons, she made the kid feel that he is an orphan, he kept him away from his father without any fault of father's n that means she insulted her motherhood too. The motherhood she herself didn't respect, can be easily questioned by the world!
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Posted: 7 years ago
#43
Neil will forgive Avni for leaving him 10 years back, but its gonna be difficult for him to forgive her for still staying away n hiding about Mowgli even after Vidyut's death!
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Posted: 7 years ago
#44
And about "defaming" Avni in the court...let's face it, this is the most practical and realistic thing. When u don't have a proof to prove urself right, u prove the other person wrong. Neil has never been with his son, so he has no evidence of his love. At the most what he can say is he is financially more stable than Avni, but that doesn't prove that he can raise Mowgli better than Avni. Hence he has to prove how Avni is unfit to raise him. This is how court trials work!
Having said that, Neil is still not proving Avni wrong to prove himself right. He is only stating how he sees Avni right now...cheater, liar, manipulator...that's how he sees her after facing all these lies and secrets. So he isn't even manipulating his words only to win the case, as yet.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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@Hal-e-dil

Hi Ri, missed you🤗how are u doing, this is Naj (arshisfan) from the EDT

Well I understand Avni's trauma, overcoming the childhood scars is something very difficult and she was really cornered by Vidyut, he really knew how to exploit her fears and her vulnerability back then especially since she has recently lost Neelama then, so it's not like I don't understand why she took the decisions, but it doesn't make what she did right, no matter what she should have shared things with Neil and what she did post the 10years leap seeing Neil's broken state and insisting on hiding the kid from him and never trying to comfort him or to make up for the pain to him made me sympathize more with Neil honestly.

She might have had reasons for the things she did, but that doesn't absolve her with regards to the consequences her actions had on so many lives, especially her husband's and her son's lives. And yes I had always problem with this habit of her taking decisions by her own just because she thinks these are the right decisions fogetting all the other angles to the problem and disregarding Neil's opinion and feelings, I know she doesn't mean to hurt him but she keeps doing it. Back in the past all this was overlooked because the jail track happened but I've always been of the opinion that it's a big problem in a relationship when u break your promises and do things without discussing them with your partner, Neil has forgiven her then when she went behind Mishti a day after she promised she will do nothing and he was rather guilty for bringing Juhi in their lives and making Avni go through all what she went through though we know she was also responsible for her situation, but that flaw was not adressed and she again did what she thought was right from her perspective and we can all see the consequences now

I agree u should accept ur partner the way they are and Neil accepted her wholeheartedly but there is also a fact that some flaws can be very fatal to a relationship, you need to be able to trust your partner that they won't leave u under any circumstances, that they would stick to something you agreed on, not do the opposite the next day no matter what are circumstances but given Avni's record on the matter, how can we blame Neil if he lost trust on her!


As I said and I reiterate it to everyone here, I never doubted her intentions or the extent she can go to for her loved ones but I can't either overlook some of her flaws and habits which honestly any life partner in real life would find hard to deal with.
Edited by Survival - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
#46
If avni stays away frm neil then neil should go behind her and become psycho i think this is wat people want.if he wants a peaceful life with avni but she rejects him he should try till he suceed and finally become psycho lover then i think people who are bashing him will praise him
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: IFLove

For all those who feel Neil did a grave crime by "questioning and insulting Avni's motherhood" and Avni didn't insult the same motherhood by hiding her relation with her son from him...

For those who feel "snatching a son" from his mother is wrong but because mother n father can't reconcile, letting a man be deprived of his son even after loving him just because he is not a mother...
For those who feel the newly found father is selfish to want to live his further life with his son because he doesn't think about son's comfort but the mother is not at all selfish to hide about the from his father even after having no threat just because of the fear of the son being snatched away...

GET YOUR PSEUDO FEMINISM CORRECTED

Feminism doesn't mean that the woman is always right and man is always wrong, that woman should always get all her rights and the man should forgo his for her, that only the woman has all the pains and the man is heartless. Feminism means a woman being EQUAL with the man by all means! So don't sypathise with Avni alone just because she is a woman or a mother n her husband n father of her child is supposedly doing wrong with her. Sypathise with both for this child issue!

U gave the child all the love n care n attention n everything, very good, u must have. I agree, mother is a relation that's established more by deeds and hence Avni is a "mother-figure" to Mowgli even since he didn't know about her. But this doesn't change the fact that she was his "mother-figure" and not "mother"...and there's a big difference. Its not only about by what name he calls her, he can continue calling her jaan didi now also...but its about the feeling of being orphan that she instilled in him and she insulted her own motherhood by that. She had a reason to keep him safe, but due to whatever reasons, she made the kid feel that he is an orphan, he kept him away from his father without any fault of father's n that means she insulted her motherhood too. The motherhood she herself didn't respect, can be easily questioned by the world!


I do not understand why Avni did not tell Mowgli and other kids in the Orphanage that she was his Mother.
She could have run the orphanage with Mowgli knowing her as his Mother and not as her being a mother figure and him being an orphan.

LOL even Saisha false called her as her Mother because she knew it, looked better for her.

Avni left to protect Prakash and Mishti.
No one knew that she was pregnant, she herself did not.
So when she faked her death and went hiding, no one knew that she had a son.
She insulted her own motherhood and her child's life by making him an illegitimate orphan





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Posted: 7 years ago
#48

Originally posted by: Survival

@Hal-e-dil

Hi Ri, missed you🤗how are u doing, this is Naj (arshisfan) from the EDT

Well I understand Avni's trauma, overcoming the childhood scars is something very difficult and she was really cornered by Vidyut, he really knew how to exploit her fears and her vulnerability back then especially since she has recently lost Neelama then, so it's not like I don't understand why she took the decisions, but it doesn't make what she did right, no matter what she should have shared things with Neil and what she did post the 10years leap seeing Neil's broken state and insisting on hiding the kid from him and never trying to comfort him or to make up for the pain to him made me sympathize more with Neil honestly.

She might have had reasons for the things she did, but that doesn't absolve her with regards to the consequences her actions had on so many lives, especially her husband's and her son's lives. And yes I had always problem with this habit of her taking decisions by her own just because she thinks these are the right decisions fogetting all the other angles to the problem and disregarding Neil's opinion and feelings, I know she doesn't mean to hurt him but she keeps doing it. Back in the past all this was overlooked because the jail track happened but I've always been of the opinion that it's a big problem in a relationship when u break your promises and do things without discussing them with your partner, Neil has forgiven her then when she went behind Mishti a day after she promised she will do nothing and he was rather guilty for bringing Juhi in their lives and making Avni go through all what she went through though we know she was also responsible for her situation, but that flaw was not adressed and she again did what she thought was right from her perspective and we can all see the consequences now

I agree u should accept ur partner the way they are and Neil accepted her wholeheartedly but there is also a fact that some flaws can be very fatal to a relationship, you need to be able to trust your partner that they won't leave u under any circumstances, that they would stick to something you agreed on, not do the opposite the next day no matter what are circumstances but given Avni's record on the matter, how can we blame Neil if he lost trust on her!


As I said and I reiterate it to everyone here, I never doubted her intentions or the extent she can go to for her loved ones but I can't either overlook some of her flaws and habits which honestly any life partner in real life would find hard to deal with.


Naj,

people call Neil all sort of things these days.
One is that he is incompetent as a police officer.
he was perfectly fine as a police officer until Avni came into his life.

After that she constantly took decisions on her own and against Neil's advice as a police officer.
Yes police officers have restrictions and limits on how they have to approach things.
There is legality and importance of evidence. and then also media and politicians.
That does not mean they are incompetent and brainless. That makes there work harder.

But any incidence be it - DVM, RM, RP, MIshti, Vidyut - Avni took decisions and actions against Neil's advice, lack of evidence and against legality.
which resulted in neil many times doing damage control just to protect her.
he got emotional just thinking about her and that is how his actions were driven in most situations.

His commissioner also warned him several times that he needs to separate his personal feelings aside from duties as a police officer.


Even what she did to Vidyut in the eyes of law is wrong because she faked her death and placed him in life imprisonment for her death. Not for Neela's death.
In real life, she would be arrested for this and undermine a trial.

But just because CVs needed to show Avni being involved in police job when she was not trained for it, they showed these unrealistic things.
They did not know what to do with Vidyut angle they showed him death.
Technically Cvs themselves do not know what to do with her faked death and legal aspects of it.


How many of us take law solely on our own hands even when we know that there can be corrupt police officers.

Neil was one of the most honest and straightforward officers.
He was forced to do damage control all the time





Edited by delhigirl - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: Bat1

If avni stays away frm neil then neil should go behind her and become psycho i think this is wat people want.if he wants a peaceful life with avni but she rejects him he should try till he suceed and finally become psycho lover then i think people who are bashing him will praise him


Yes only if he is a psycho lover, bordering on suicide for the love of his life, then only he will be praised.
Otherwise whatever the FL serves him in her own version of justice, and fairness everything is mahaan.

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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: Bat1

If avni stays away frm neil then neil should go behind her and become psycho i think this is wat people want.if he wants a peaceful life with avni but she rejects him he should try till he suceed and finally become psycho lover then i think people who are bashing him will praise him

Point you've noted rightly I guess.😆 I think here ppl want only neil has liable to work for his nuptial life with avni,avni has no liability in this matter.only neil is bound to understand avni's pain but avni is free in this matter. If one is truly Avneil fan not saying individually avni or neil's fan then one should understand equally both Avneil's situation n perception.

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