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Posted: 7 years ago
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Surprisingly Simi...I liked their encounter today. May be because I never expected avni would react and burst out with anger on Neil. Because from day 1 I always believed avni can never hate Neil...she has only love love and love for Neil. She is deeply hurt not because she was arrested but becoz Neil never trusted her. She knows in her mind the situations are responsible for their separation and hence she knows whom to target the vidyuth. I felt it was natural for avneil to feel that attraction when they were close in the clinic room. Mind sets limits and knows what is wrong and what is right...but heart when it' full of love and when you see ur loved one after 6 months how will it not feel for that intimacy????? I liked the way they showed how avni felt Neil's touch ( when he grabbed her shoulder) after 6 long months ...she was numbed for a while with his touch and proximity...poor Neil how he was controlling himself to not touch her face and kiss her. I felt their pain ...
This is my POV...

.i think there will be another burst out from avnis side when truth comes out ...then she will pour her heart out and her hurt...for now she is focused to get her revenge from vidyuth who is the reason for all this and to prove Neil that she is innocent.

Yaaay logic or no logic happy to see them back in one frame 😊
Edited by Merav - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
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I understand what you mean, but for me it wasn't as such disappointing.
Aditi is good in action sequences & I think everyone has become fan of it. 😃

When it comes to AvNeil reunion, I expected it exactly like this, Avni first becoming emotional & getting tears in her eyes, but not shading it & hardening herself & giving Neil cold shoulder. Avni won't reveal her vulnerable self to the one who made her vulnerable. She always used to tell herself that there is no point of tears, bcz if tears could solve the problems than Ayesha ma would have been the happiest person in the world. She has become that person once again, who don't believe in tears, emotions or love. The person who will rather first shield herself than breakdown & let the emotions take the control over herself.

When it comes to Neil, I don't think he was trying to distract Avni from her mission or anything. It was their first interaction after 6 months & while Avni was getting more & more angry each day, Neil was getting emotional & feeling guilty about everything. He was trying to be indifferent in the beginning but the more he talked, the less indifferent he became & about that special treatment statement, for Neil I felt, it was almost like he was the judge of some competition or boss of Avni & telling his wife in a banter that she won't get any special treatment, but it was a wrong thing to say, & Avni's patience & cold exterior broke there & she told Neil what she was feeling about him, special treatment & their relationship in brief. I am not trying to justify Neil's statement but that's what it felt like to me. & although Neil said she won't get any special treatment, she is already getting it of course. She has Neil's full attention.

Good observation about that dropping the bandage part, I missed it the first time I watched it online bcz I was more focused on his expressions & face! 😛 I noticed it when I watched it on TV. The scene which I liked was when Jailer asked Neil about lunch he was almost going to say I will eat what Avni eats, but stops himself & that little pause & then saying I will eat what other prisoners will eat. Brilliant. 👏 That was a very brief scene but in a subtle way it expressed many emotions. I love such little detailings & scenes where there is not much said, but it speaks volumes in silence.

You know this situation reminds me of Neil's dialogue where after accident Neil is self talking if you are such a true person Ananya, then what are you hiding now? Lies are kept hidden, not truth or something along those lines, & I think there was a scene where Avni says to Neil about getting everything easily & that's why not understanding. & now here Neil is, hiding the truth rather than lie. He is getting experience what happens when life gets difficult & it's not necessary to hide only lies but sometimes truths are also kept hidden.

So overall I expected their reunion just like this, where Avni will give cold shoulder to Neil & Neil trying to be indifferent but not able to & at last saying something stupid & Avni getting angry with him. So it wasn't extraordinary episode but it wasn't bad either.

I think many people thinks this track divided fandom in Avni fans vs. Neil fans. Here Neil fans thinks that people are only appreciating Avni & are blaming only Neil, but that's not true. Even these so called Avni fans ( mind you I am not trying to taunt anyone, but since some fans thinks members who are appreciating Avni & not sympathizing enough with Neil are Avni fans only I am stating it like it), knows that both AvNeil are at fault. Avni to believe every word that came out of Neil's mouth instantly & Neil for pretending to break his all relationship with Avni & not telling Avni the truth. Here I said it before & I am stating it again that Avni is wrong but Neil is more at fault about this situation. So they understand Neil is in pain but won't sympathize with him much bcz in a way it was self-inflicted, this whole situation could have been avoided if Neil would have only said I trust you to Avni. If not the whole truth bcz people thinks Avni is impulsive & would have make a mess of the things. In the Mishti track Avni was in a very bad situation but still people couldn't connect with Avni bcz she accepted Mishti so easily & complained about her character being compromised for the same. So the fans who aren't able to connect much with Neil now are not Avni fans but very much AvNeil fans.

& there is one more complain from these Neil fans, & that is these Avni fans didn't like Juhi track & were disgusted with it but when it comes to Vidhyut they are all happy with obsessive Vidhyut, here I will say Juhi-Neil-Avni track had lots of potential but the actress wasn't able to do justice to it. & these ex turning vamp is just too much cringe & clichd track. & her crying all the times didn't make it better. & this track was also rejected bcz there was already one ex who wreaked havoc in AvNeil's life, Rhea. Ali loved Avni buy he never turned negative, & that's why Ali can't be called ex bcz there was no love from Avni. & here when it comes to Vidhyut everyone knows Avni don't love him, never did & never will. Neil didn't love Rhea but still he was going to marry her & Juhi was his first love & he still had a soft corner for Juhi. That's why he believed everything she said immediately & was a wreak during rang Mahal track & then such impulsive decisions by him in Goa track. There's a difference. If a villain is obsessed with the lead character & lead character having soft corner or once having relationship with villain & once again giving importance to them in their lives.

Vidhyut making paintings of Avni is disgusting & I am not much active on social media but even I read fans calling Vidhyut's the painting cheap. People are excited for this track bcz Karam is a good actor who breaths life in Vidhyut's character & people love to hate him. Dayawanti was a negative character but people loved to hate her in Reema mam time, but same can not be said in for the actress who played Dayawanti after Reemaji's death. Ragini Pandit is all in negative character but people love to hate her character. Portrayal of a character plays big part in popularity of a character. Juhi's character portrayal was very weak & that's a big reason for that track being a flop. There were also other factors of the track being too clichd & all bcz of which that track was a flop but it wasn't accepted altogether bcz it wasn't portrayed well. People are accepting of this obsessed Vidhyut track bcz Vidhyut is a character people love to hate & also bcz Avni never had some bad or obsessive person being crazy behind her like Neil had, first Rhea & then Juhi. & no they are not accepting Vidhyut Avni Neil triangle, bcz there's no such thing. & no one is demanding such. Even Avni fans won't want Avni to be with Vidhyut who is such a psycho character. They are very much AvNeil fans & wants only AvNeil. They are just accepting this Vidhyut track, not Vidhyut for Avni.

So please people stop these. All Neil fans are very much welcomed in the forum but know this not everyone is blind follower of Neil or even Avni. Just bcz most of the members disagrees with you doesn't mean you are unwelcome, they weren't ( I am stating weren't & not aren't bcz even they are losing patience to deal with such posts every other day) mean to you. & people stating Neil fans are not anymore comfortable posting anything in the forum is like blaming them for not agreeing with your views. Here today where most of the posts says that they found the episode thanda & not good enough, I liked the episode on the contrary, but I am not uncomfortable to say it or feel unwelcome bcz of it. It's a matter of perspective only.
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Posted: 7 years ago
#53
I felt Neil's dialogue of no special treatment for his wife was wrt to the idea of running away from jail. He is indirectly warning her if indeed I find something which proves that you are trying to run away from jail then don' expect special treatment becoz u r my wife. But that hit avni somewhere else which Neil didn' realize...it was good she let out everything. Neil now must know how much she is hurt by his actions. Since he feels guilty for this situation... in a way he would absorb all that hurt...avni is throwing back at him. At any given day that is much better to Neil than facing avni who ignores Neil completely.
Edited by Merav - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Avni was convincing herself that she doesn't love him or let's say in her words that she doesn't believe in love, that flashback was haunting her and she said "in one second he went against love and every relationship, he didn't trust you then, you too never believe in love again, love is betrayal", she was reminding herself to not believe in love as a way to resist the love of her life who was standing right in front of her eyes! So I feel she is still very much in love, but she is hurt and angry, simple!

When you love someone you just expect them to love you and trust you unconditionally regardless of circumstances, of whether you are right or wrong. She is still very much deeply in love with him, he is very much there in her thoughts and heart but that flashback haunts her so much. She couldn't believe her Neil would treat her so harshly. Yes, she was still ready to live with his doubt (again from her point of view) when she planned running away but she never expected him to break the relationship and treat her that way. She was leaving the house, running away, saying that no matter what you think about me I'll always be yours and I'll love only you but she was hurt when he arrested her and mainly when he broke the relationship (or so she thought he did).

Hence I say that her main problem I guess more than Neil mistrusting her because I feel she knows he has his reasons even if he did is her Neil treating her that way and breaking his relationship with her, she is too used to her Neil always forgiving her no matter what, loving her no matter what, being there for her no matter what even when she is wrong so when he broke the relationship, she just couldn't believe it. She is so hurt. Obviously his trust matters to her and a lot, she wanted him to trust her and she was ready to go through a polygraph test to prove her truth to Neil as Neil was the person whose trust mattered to her the most, but despite that after their romantic moment, she was ready to leave without any grudges, she said no matter what u think about me, I'll be yours and only love you, so that means the possibility of him thinking she did commit the murder was there in her mind but it didn't have the same powerful impact it had after when he treated her the way he did.

Anyways I might be wrong, let's see in the upcoming episodes whether we will get more insight into her feelings and also more insight into why Neil still thinks he should keep the truth from her!!!

Edited by arshisfan - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Loved your take on the episode simi I like how you keep it real looks like most of the people have same opinions about this track falling flat
I really wanted to see Neil's backstory but I guess cvs have forgotten about that and have no plans of showing that part to us non of the New olv's I see are giving that indication rather they are irrelevant nothing much to look forward to except I wanna know how Avni will react seeing Vr
Edited by Shaiksafia - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
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@arshifan
i agree that both Neil and Avni need internal reflection and introspection of where both went wrong and where they did right.
this is not about redemption.
Both have loved each other very much and both need to realize their mistakes and both need to grow and reflect in their relationship.

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Posted: 7 years ago
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I think the acting in the episode worked for me but the dialogues should have been better. Especially the bit about special treatment. But atleast it gave Neil a chance to see avnis hurt. But I cringed when he said special treatment and also when he said kanoon haath main nahi lene doonga! That was laughable. But I think if u mute it and watch the scenes the emotions were beautiful. The feeling of seeing each other after 6 months, the flashbacks, the hurt, guilt and betrayal. The reaction when Neil touched avni from both of them, feeling each other's presence. I think Neil has conveyed to avni that he knows she's trying to escape. Hopefully svni will come up with a smart plan to hide her escape route. But this whole Xmas celebration is getting too much like a school competition.
Another few things that I felt- while it was sweet that Neil said I'll eat whatever the prisoners are eating, he doesn't really eat it everyday! I think it's upto us to imagine that Neil is punishing hinself by eating simple khaana and sleeping on the floor but for me until they show it in in the episode I'm not going to assume it. Right now for me what I see is Neil dying in guilt yes but avni is in PRISON for a crime she did not commit. No matter how chill the jail is, it is a jail. I need to see Neil backstory and also get some insight into his future plan. I really hope we aren't seeing scenes of Neil making avni jealous by flirting with a prisoner. That'd be ridiculous! It's a mockery of the plot if they show such scenes! Hope that's a fake spoiler. Anyway I want Neel to see avnis transformation , I want avni to find out somehow why he did this whole drama, I want her to reprimand him for this whole drama, maybe also taunt him for his neo transformation just like her ananya transformation and nake him realise how he did exactly what she did when he was not able to get justice through the system. I want them to come up with a plan to expose vidyut, and then sone happy scenes! Only thing I loved is avni kicking ass , she does great action scenes. It's convincing and well done!
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: delhigirl

@arshifan

i agree that both Neil and Avni need internal reflection and introspection of where both went wrong and where they did right.
this is not about redemption.
Both have loved each other very much and both need to realize their mistakes and both need to grow and reflect in their relationship.



You know I have no problem if Neil tries to pacify Avni, even if she gives him some tough time due to her hurt and expectations but for her growth and for their relationship she needs to introspect, it's not like I don't feel Avni deserves to be treated like a princess, actually this girl deserves to be happy, as I always say undiluted happiness with no cloud, she deserves to be pampered and she deserves to heal and to forget or at least be over her past scars.


So my point here is not what Avni deserves, and yes she deserves an explanation and an apology from Neil for what he did, she can be angry at him for not telling her, but I want her to understand the contribution of her impulsiveness and past record in breaking "practical" promises in Neil's decision! And most importantly her contribution in getting herself trapped! I mean u hold a gun and u point it at someone while u don't even have permission to carry a weapon and then when something goes wrong u wonder why!!! Ok Mishti was the most important person for her then and she wanted to save her, but how is pointing a gun at a person carrying the child and who is near a cliff and threatnening to jump off it if u don't stay away, can help in getting that person calm down, as far as I know when someone threatens to do something that fatal and when uperse a child is involved, you should put the gun down, and not start a countdown!! in these situations u don't take such risks! you try to calm the person in front of u, so if something happened then even without Vidyut's intervention, Avni would be still responsible in part for it!

What I want to say is that if you don't get to learn something from your experiences then they are of no use because you might make the same mistakes once again if you don't understand where u went wrong. She went wrong not when she left evidence behind her but when she put herself in that situation at first place due to impulsiveness as despite the situation being difficult it wasn't a matter of life or death and it's not like Mishti's parents' would have killed her, she could have waited!

Whether we have a past or not, we are answerable and responsible for our actions, our past and pain might at most be used as an emotional argument to make our punishment less or make others understand where we come from but it doesn't absolve us. Sad but true!


Edited by arshisfan - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
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@arshifan I agree totally with your take on Avni . I was irritated to no end when she ran away with Misti . I will say it anywhere. Se is the biggest reason for her being behind bars . She shouldn't have run away with the kid when Neil was arresting Juhi . She lost hope on Neil so soon . I was like seriously woman do you even know him . She had to learn from her mistakes and understand that her impulsive nature is ending her in trouble . Like you said Even if Vidyut hadn't shot she would be responsible coz she was threatening Juhi that she will shoot her . Whatever she did to get Misti from Juhi is secondary . Her grave mistake was running with the child . It's not like Neil wouldn't do any arrangements or Vidyut will kill . If he wished to kill then why will he keep her .
Tbh I was irritated when Neil taunted her that she won't get any privilege as she is ACPs wife . Come on man you put her inside . But yes I enjoyed the episode . Neil was tongue tied when she stressed she was only Avni Ayesha . It was like a whiplash to him . I could feel all the pain , hurt and anger from both sides . Avni was visibly affected when he removed the bandage . She was consumed .
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Originally posted by: Simi1711



She shoots him one last look before leaving as she says to herself that she has to plan with Ali to close up that tunnel, while a determined Neil says to himself, I won't let your escape plans succeed Avni.
I won't let you take the law in your hand! (umm.. Hello! What do YOU do as Neo, then? Play ringa-ringa-roses? 😕 )

Anyway, precap has Neil doubting over the Goddess' poster in Avni's cell, while Avni is lying on a mat in the cell.

Overall, a good episode, with unfulfilled expectations for me!

Best,
Simi


@ bold
Hey Simi I think you have mistook this thing, Neil doesn't want Avni
to become a law breaker because this would affect when he
proves her to be innocent. (No offense yaar ).
your episodic analysis is really awesome.

With Love
Kathy ❤️
Edited by Kathy_927 - 7 years ago

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