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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: .Mandy.



Yes Avni deserves Neil because she deserves a life of love after everything she has endured. There is a reason why her past haunts her so much it is because no one ever lets her forget it! Just look at it, you had Dayawanti who taunted her for years and made her life hell then along comes Ragini and Juhi and again same thing. Avni has never been able to escape the shackles from her past and when she finally puts forward an effort where does it land her? For months Neil waited patiently for Avni to open up to him, to build that trust and break down those walls around her heart and when that was finally happening Neil did the very thing Avni feared the most - betrayal! Avni flat out asked Neil do you think I killed Juhi? Neil never gave her an answer and then when Bebe asked if he believes Avni could do such a thing he said yes, keep in mind this is after he pulled off her mangalsutra and wiped off her sindoor. I want to know exactly what Avni was supposed to think in that instant? How was that not supposed to leave her scarred? When Neil's own family could not question his motives how could Avni?

but what about her loved ones? for one dayavanti she had a mother in neela who always said my bacha is so strong, so brave? she had bebe, she had a father in prakash, she had a brother in DD, best friend in ali, a soulmate in neil. why their soothing words dont matter to her as much as these random XYZs?


what i believe, is you get exactly what you ask for. you want happiness, you have positive vibes, you are determined to be happy and spread happiness and you get it. you think things will fall apart, so they will. is not she done with living in fear?




Why should Neil one day say I am done running after her when he is the one who chased her away? Neil is aware he is the reason behind whatever Avni has endured right now, he is the one who brought Juhi into their home, he is the one who blindly trusted Juhi over a night he could not remember and he was the one who failed to protect Avni. There is a reason why Neil is so rattled with guilt right now it is because he knows he is the one who let Avni down. Avni is not to blame here, yes she can be stubborn but she in no way deserved the fate she has been dealt with. Avni has spent the last six months in jail, why? Avni committed no crime and I disagree that she did not give her all to her marriage, everything Avni did was because of her love for Neil. What wife would go to a brothel to save their husband's ex because she could not see Neil so helpless and broken? What wife would stand by their husband after learning he had a child with his ex? Avni going to save Mishti was because she thought this child belonged to Neil, she was ready to be another Neela Maa because of Neil. Why was she ready to leave when she learned Neil was given an ultimatum to arrest her? It is because she thought that would be the most difficult thing for him to do, she didn't want to put him in that position but was she in for a shock. It wasn't Neil arresting her that broke whatever faith she had in him, it was him not saying once that he believed in her innocence. I get Neil had his reasonings for not telling Avni before her arrest but what about now? How is whatever Avni going through fair? This should not be Avni running behind Neil trying to pacify him when she learns why he did what he did, it should be Neil doing whatever it takes to win back that trust he broke. It should be Neil working his hardest to ensure he fulfills all those promises made to Avni about giving her a happily ever after.


their going to goa was joint plan, bringing juhi to their house was joint plan, tkaing care of both maa beti while faily members look on uncomfortably was a joint plan. their pretendinf to have broken marriage and avni leaving, letting family think they are over and the social humiliation of a empty alter was a joint plan. what they did till it was revealed V and J were together was their joint plan, an equal share in f**ked up ness. he is guilty of two things- not saying to avni 'i dont know if u killed juhi or not i will wait for evidence' and not letting her know Viyut the creep is now lusting after her.

err didn't shweta neela avni during their convo had theis discussion that maybe juhi was lying about the kid too? then? and avni didnt do a favor by staying for the kid. neil gave her an out and she chose not to do it. on other hand she was repeatedly ready to quit the relationship cause she thought that was best for the kid. agaim, for the kid, who cares about the husband, after all his love is that fickle, he woulc love juhi again, love is fluid like that.


when i mentioned the neil being done with her that had no connection with this on going track. i simply wanted a scene so that it can jolt out avni from her stupor and makes her realize this present is what matters.






Originally posted by: delhigirl

Everyone has their choices - some favor Avni, some favor Neil and some both.

I generally favor both but lately when I look at the RM episode and when Avni made plan B with Ali after full on promising Neil that she will not, I feel more bad for Neil.

Neil has always shown full love for Avni. Even on the last day before arrest he took permission from Neela. Avni does have a certain kind of disregard for both Neil and Neela, which i cannot understand.
If she has had lack of trust from key people in her life, she has had unconditional love from both Neil and Neela.


exactly. like i said to neela why random outsiders word has so much impact on her while loved ones words is like no effect at all? what does that say about her own psyche? food for thought, how does her family matters for her? and matters has many implications-its not like for eg. she was broken and ready to avenge ali. what about stting down with ali and have a heart to heart about his near death experience. respecting his words and what he thinks about her life. small things.

and I disagree that neil has very rarely told Avni about her importance in his life. He has done that multiple times especailly in the RM track and throughout the Juhi track.
i just watched all those episodes again.
How he as expressed her importance, even avni has not been that vocal about it.
I absolutely know she loves him a lot, just like he does.
But her attitude to not heeding to anything that he says to her is also partially responsible for all her troubles.

this. could not have said it better.

Neil constantly blames himself for everything that Avni is going through but Avni has not been shown to reflect even once on his words that she never listens to him or acknowledge that she was equally responsible in getting Juhi liberated from the RM and her share of wrong decisions.
She has never been shown to reflect once where she could have been wrong.

and this is what i expect, a retrospection. but knowing the tv format i have no hope thus this discussion😆


Both have been at fault, but i feel that Neil has accepted his mistakes far more than Avni ever has or will.

If nayi soch is that a wife should never listen to anything that a husband says, then star plus and Cvs have done a good job of it.


hahaha😆😆👏 good one.

on a side note, I found all the jail scenes very boring.
None of the new characters could hold my attention.

Ultimately it will be only when Avni and Neil come in one frame which will attract.
They are made for each other, but both including Avni has to acknowledge her flaws and try to get over her past.
If she can't herself then she should allow Neil and Neela to help her do it.



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Posted: 7 years ago
#42

Originally posted by: .Avengers.



i think you only understood what i meant to say.😳 behen gale lag ja🤗 but lets keep it 60/40. avni thinks she can conquer the world on her own but that's not true, i understand she had a tough past where it looks like she did alone but she didn't. neela was there, alladin, her gang of thugs. she had help. Vidyut is not the small targets she is thinking to remove, he is a gigantic monster! she needs all hands on deck but idhar to madam ko bhagne se fursat nhi🥱




Hug to you too.😊 I won't compare whose flaws are bigger here. When neil showed his impulsiveness toward juhi he was disgusted to me later when avni ignored neil completely due to her obsession for misti,underestimated him it was also disgusted to me. Amid these all the main point is they love each other truly. So one disgusted person (avni) deserves another disgusted person( neil).😆 😉
Edited by ILTHBEB - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
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I would take side of both Neil and Avni in this matter .
This was the first time Neil went so far that too only to protect her . He used all those harsh words only to make her hate him so that Ananya in her gives her strength . I thought his face will burst any moment when Avni was taken away by constables . Whatever he did is to save her coz if he even gives her an idea of Vidyut's devil's deal she will straight away go to him and smack him with sense which will again land her in trouble . He had no other way as Vidyut erased every damn evidence that could prove her innocent though I'm disappointed that he didn't try to find any evidence actually . Only thing he screwed up here is Avni turned into Ananya which he never wanted . He never thought she will turn into .

What should I say about Avni . Sometimes I feel she never wants to come from her past . I agree past scars never leave you soon but when you have loving family and happy environment you have to really try to come out . I was totally irritated when she executed her plan B without waiting for Neil . How could she even think Neil won't help out the kid and will never understand her in this matter . Such sickening attitude of Avni . The guy had given her so many chances to walk away when Juhi came back . She decided to stick on . He never forced her to . If she stands by him he should give her complete trust on him . When you promise something you have to assume responsibility too. She never does that . Avni's promises are like writing in water . She will only break them . She was the sole reason to land herself in whole trouble . Who said her to run away with the kid . Even Ali tried to put some sense just to be convinced by her . I hold she is the sole reason for her to be behind bars . I hate her for the reason she never listens to Neil and never holds his words . Of Neela I have always felt she never did justice to her. She always sulks about Ayesha when Neela is very well present. Only when destiny put her in Neela's situation she remembered her . Else she laments about Ayesha and her greatness . I find only Neela to be better in all sense than Ayesha . Neela might have had some selfish reasons like avenging her father's murder but whatever she did to Avni can't be compared to Ayesha's part in Avni's life . I still say Avni never coped up with her past scars and didn't give her 100% to her family though she loves them dearly . Rest I agree with Mandy . No one can do what Avni did for Neil . She only wanted to know he trusts her but he never answered her question and said to Bebe he thinks she murdered Juhi which is history repeats to her and even more worse this time as Neil stood steadfast and proved he is never Ashish

I dunno who is justified . But to me Avni is more to be blamed for the situation she is in . Even if Neil didn't arrest her his superior would have done the honors.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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@Ri:
Yes from Avni's side the relationship is over. I think she believed that there will always be a part of Neil who will think of her as a criminal. That first phase of their relationship re-enacted, where Ananya was trying to give chakma to ACP Neil.


Now her whole focus is Vidyut. No, I don't think it's for Mishti alone. In fact, she may think Mishti might be dead. Vidyut probably has her. This whole incident was too close to home for her. Too close to what she suffered because of her own relatives and the same happened with Mishti too. But if she plays any game with Vidyut other than directly going to gun him down, will be if she finds out Mishti is alive. She has no idea Vidyut is obsessed with her and wants to Haasil her. Maybe now she will use her feminine viles to trap him when she realizes this. Unlike with Neil, which she never did. She didn't even know he was into her, or in love with her. She was clueless! LOL. The easiest thing for her during the Rhea phase would have been to try to charm Neil but she never did. I remember Ali saying "I know your trying to get close to Neil, and I am doing the same with Rhea" and Avni was like "No I am not trying to get close to Neil!". She was genuinely surprised by what Ali said, coz she never intended to get close to him. She never thought THAT may be a good way to stop this wedding. Why I respect Avni. She doesn't play those sort of cheap games. But this time she might!


Yes Neil has done many things for Avni but Avni has been no less. She is not the sort of woman who will "listen" to anyone and stay out of things. If she thinks SHE can achieve something she will do it, despite what anyone says. It frustrates Neil a lot, but that is one of the reasons he fell crazy in love with her. She isn't like anyone he knows or anyone he will ever know. Like Vidyut said "Ek aag hai wo, aur aab muje samaj main aya ke kyon tum uska deewana ban ke phirtha hai!" or something like that!


Vidyut will be the game changer for them this time. But I think now Avni and Neil are on the same page. Neil will finally understand what its like to be a part of "Juroom ke duniya" like Vidyut said to Avni! Something he didnt get before. He is a High ranking Police officer by day and a vigilante at night. Something Neil of 2 years ago would never have even dreamt of. Despite Case 123 being a vigilante, Neil was adamant to catch him/her, coz this person is "Breaking the law". Well, Neil won't think that way anymore. Coz sometimes JUSTICE cannot be achieved by legal means and not everyone who breaks the law is a criminal! I think Neil will finally "Get" that aspect of Avni and some of the friction caused by this issue will be solved in their future relationship.


But for Avni to trust Neil again, she will have to take a major risk with her heart once more and chose him and her love for him, despite her reservations, OR she will find out why Neil did this, and realize he never betrayed her in the first place. I personally prefer Option 1, coz that is real Junooni Ishq were you chose the object of your affection not because they are "worthy" but because you simply can't help yourself. I want Avni to love Neil like that this time. Because that is how Neil loved her! She was not what you would term a "great choice" because of some of the things she does and her baggage. But Neil was too much in love to care! It's Avni's turn this time!
Edited by MrDarcyfan - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
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@Avengers No I am not preeti😆 Yes you are right.These selfless things gives me the feel of trp bahus.
And someone mentioned here so that's why I am putting this up Avni couldn't get someone better than Neil.He has done everything for her which he could on his behalf.The guy is living in guilt each and every day for the pain he has given to her. He always wanted to give Avni a fairy tale life but circumstances never allowed him to.Even Avni deserves Neil for the the love she has showed for him but saying that Avni shouldn't forgive Neil so easily after the revelation of truth is again making me think that what the hell has Neil done that he shouldn't be forgiven.I know he is hiding a very big truth from avni and is also taking the decision of her life but can we just for once think from neil's perspective.He didn't get any evidence to prove avni innocent and on the other hand VR is after his wife.Banda kare to kya kare.The guy has put his heart and soul in building the relation and he's trying to free Avni but again circumstances and time are standing against him.
For once we need to stand for Neil also if we are standing for Avni's life.Avni has faced a lot of wrath from her life but Neil is also suffering.Neil has built that trust within him for Avni but Avni still hasn't and I think it's still going to take time for her to do that.
And the next thing both have loved each other a lot so no doubt on that. Last time it was neil who had built the relation this time it's Avni's turn.
Edited by -SaskatoonDan- - 7 years ago

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