Does Avni deserves Neil?

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AbsoluteKasainuma

@Phir_Mohabbat

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Posted: 8 years ago

Now now, before you all come after me with shoes and jhadu let me explain.

So I am in high spirits after ages (saw a few vids and finally the cold is going away it seems) and then my FB NK discussion group blew with discussions about the epi as usual. Nothing extra-ordinary. One thing lead to another and I started to think why this leap is even happening? Why their relationship (in Avni's eyes) fell apart? Why it didn't work?

The way I see it, Avni, a refreshing character with very very stubborn streak was never into 100% into the relationship. In this forum a member said Avni's love is not unconditional like that of Neil's. It comes after 1001 baggage and T&Cs. I could not agree more. if I see this Juhi drama as a agnipariksha for their love Neil has passed it with flying colors. The worst thing can happened to a couple apart from a scare of death is return of a ex and a love child. Juhi and Mishti came into their lives and Neil, held himself guilty for this mess but never, never for a second thought about letting go of Avni. He gave her choices, but he always saw his future with avni, and mishti too in however decision he would have picked up. Now, blame it on SP bahufying😆 Avni is always so gung-ho about leaving or sacrificing. I understand deep down she don't believe this is her Happily ever after and always helding onto insecurity, but at what point the other partner simply gives up? Cause clearly Neil's constant reassurances and actions didn't help her mind to put at ease. He always tells her it is she who he wants, he sees future with her, he loves her. In many many instances he showed he is no Ashish Mehta. And this is not just for Juhi case. During RM Neil begged her to not to go to RM, fearing her life and safety. She said she will be there and what she did? Next morning left cause some greater good?

Does she even care for her family? RM is a brothel, what if she was sexually assualted or killed? Sold to foreign country or had a terrifying accident which made her immobile? What about Neil or Neela then? Why in her decisions her family never factors in? Why she don't believe words but one single action and jump to conclusion? Which wife even suggests, albeit a fake plan, to pretend marrying another woman?🥱 This natak that Neil did to keep her in jail is stupid and that's a rant for another day, but will she ever think, maybe later or even now, introspect that why he did that? Neil may not have answered if he thinks she killed Juhi, but does it matter? If she can nearly kill Dayavanti why not Juhi? Mishti was her mirror image, right? So Juhi is the DVM, the evil. If she nearly kill DM why not Juhi, and why Neil thinking that hurts her? Or in her head killing the two is different? She would not have stopped during that maal kali stunt day, so why does it stings? is not past a factor in here? She was catatonic in that moment, she was not in her senses, will she understand that? She is forever stuck in past, and this situation right now probably just validated her always ongoing monologue-see! I knew it! Happy and me haha never! I knew this love would not stuck, I knew this relationship was not forever. How quick she was to think that Neil now don tlove or trust her, but then when she has trusted him implicitly? His actiions were wrong, but she threw away the ring so she thinks he was never that much into love with her. Wow avni, really👏

If, in near future, Neil gives up saying he is done running after her ( a scene I forever want and actually think end her link to past) and this relationship is over from his side (cause this is from her side looking like) can we blame him? Did we ever see avni fighting 100% for him? Saying this is my house, my husband? She will always be bahufied, no doubt, but can for once her actions and decisions be directed for actually her family's benefit? Than random XYZs? Now she is running after Vidyut all alone, probably a few of her old gang mates will help her. Does she understands the probability of her doing anything helpful is nil now? Or she do not care now as well, just kill the man? Is she essentially a murderer, that is it ? An enforcer?

Edited by .Avengers. - 8 years ago

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Ekta

@HaymurS

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Posted: 8 years ago

^something that i always have wished to see in the show...its not about who loves the other more...its about letting ur past effect ur today...even though they showed trust like a ten year old couple...but still insecurity and a few matters need to be resolved for them to take the next step forward...

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-WingsOfFire-

@-WingsOfFire-

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Posted: 8 years ago

I completely agree with you.I really felt bad for avni after reading the reviews but I think Neil shouldn't be blamed for everything. Avni is a selfless girl and we all know that but she couldn't see the trust in Neil's eyes for her. She readily agreed that Neil never loved her after Neil held her culprit for Juhi's death. I know Avni is suffering a lot which she doesn't deserve at all but Neil is also suffering. He is penetrating hatred in a girl for himself whom he loves unconditionally. So Neil I am there with you. And I'm also in favour of Avni so guys don't run after me.😆

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Preeti

@-Preeti-

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Posted: 8 years ago

I agree to most of the points mentioned but beg to differ to the fact that Avni does care for her family.

She went to RM coz she believed/assumed that Neil was still living with his past relation i.e. Juhi and thus she wanted to get Juhi back for Neil. She wanted to give him that happiness which he deserved. she could see Neil's concern and care for her but she always said to herself that it was due to "Friendship" and she was merely case 123 for him. Yes her decision was wrong but all coz of that decision she realized her feelings for Neil, she felt "Love" as an emotion which was new to her then. She fought there and believed in Neil that he would save her and thats what happened.

Juhi Drama - She wouldn't have given up on Neil had it not been for Mishti. Yes she did agree for Neil Juhi marriage coz she never wanted a life for Mishti that she had as a Child. All she wanted was Mishti to have a normal and happy family. But when she had her doubts on Juhi she went on to find truth and it was then she decided to fight for Neil. Though in the course there have been too many downs and one or two ups but they did manage.

Juhi's Murder - While all the investigation was happening. All she wanted is to know if Neil trusts her. She constantly asked him only one question - "Does he feel she murdered Juhi?" And Neil just refused to look into her eyes. And that killed her. Her fear here increased. She was even ready to give test through lie detector coz all she wanted was Neil to trust her. All she wanted to hear from him is that "He trusts her" but she didn't get that. For any relation trust is the most important factor and when that trust looses its balance it becomes very hard and a necessity for the people to strive hard to save that relation for that particular time. Neil was being haunted by Vidyut and Neil's silence haunted Avni. Over this was Vidyut's challenge to Avni. He was with her but then he leaves without saying anything and she felt the need here was to prove herself innocent and that could only be possible if she runs away. In a fit of all the happenings emotions overtook both - Neil and Avni.

Neil proved his love and is still proving it by making sure he traps Vidyut. He is guilty of not being able to save his wife whom he loved to death. On the other hand Avni is broken by this sudden events and all she knows now is that she needs revenge from Vidyut.

Am more interested to know & understand how would CV's bring Avni back to Neil. This time its Avni fighting it out and not Ananya.

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UKGirl22

@UKGirl22

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Posted: 8 years ago

So Neel can say what he wants to Avni and she must take it well...tell her to leave him because of Juhi. Flirt with other women in front of her. Ask her to come back when his family treats her badly but without any real explanation etc. Why must he be able to get away with taking decisions for her? Isnt he the hypocrite, who has lived a secure life with two parents, who decides to come Neo when it suits him but constantly judged and distrusted Avni for her past (even accusing her to stealing the DVD that was sent to the house). Not sure anyone comes out of this tale looking perfect - and definitely not Neel.

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SilentAvNeil

@SilentAvNeil

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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: -Preeti-
I agree to most of the points mentioned but beg to differ to the fact that Avni does care for her family.

She went to RM coz she believed/assumed that Neil was still living with his past relation i.e. Juhi and thus she wanted to get Juhi back for Neil. She wanted to give him that happiness which he deserved. she could see Neil's concern and care for her but she always said to herself that it was due to "Friendship" and she was merely case 123 for him. Yes her decision was wrong but all coz of that decision she realized her feelings for Neil, she felt "Love" as an emotion which was new to her then. She fought there and believed in Neil that he would save her and thats what happened.

Juhi Drama - She wouldn't have given up on Neil had it not been for Mishti. Yes she did agree for Neil Juhi marriage coz she never wanted a life for Mishti that she had as a Child. All she wanted was Mishti to have a normal and happy family. But when she had her doubts on Juhi she went on to find truth and it was then she decided to fight for Neil. Though in the course there have been too many downs and one or two ups but they did manage.

Juhi's Murder - While all the investigation was happening. All she wanted is to know if Neil trusts her. She constantly asked him only one question - "Does he feel she murdered Juhi?" And Neil just refused to look into her eyes. And that killed her. Her fear here increased. She was even ready to give test through lie detector coz all she wanted was Neil to trust her. All she wanted to hear from him is that "He trusts her" but she didn't get that. For any relation trust is the most important factor and when that trust looses its balance it becomes very hard and a necessity for the people to strive hard to save that relation for that particular time. Neil was being haunted by Vidyut and Neil's silence haunted Avni. Over this was Vidyut's challenge to Avni. He was with her but then he leaves without saying anything and she felt the need here was to prove herself innocent and that could only be possible if she runs away. In a fit of all the happenings emotions overtook both - Neil and Avni.

Neil proved his love and is still proving it by making sure he traps Vidyut. He is guilty of not being able to save his wife whom he loved to death. On the other hand Avni is broken by this sudden events and all she knows now is that she needs revenge from Vidyut.

Am more interested to know & understand how would CV's bring Avni back to Neil. This time its Avni fighting it out and not Ananya.

Preeti you nailed it.

Avni was always insecure. For the first time when she realized she might be falling in love after Neil's accident is when the whole Juhi thing started. What was Neil's first reaction - it was to push Avni away and run towards Juhi at the dabang. What was Avni supposed to think? To top it Swetha kept rubbing In about Juhi being Neil's first love that he has not forgotten. Due to guilt Neil kept harping about Juhi too.

Being selfless girl she went to RM to get Juhi for Neil with no thoughts about her. Think back during that track did Neil ever say he loves her. He only said that at the end of the RM track.

After Juhi when he found out about the child, Neil kept harping about the child too.

If Avni is insecure about Neil's love - Neil is partially to be blamed. He never ever talked to Avni about her importance in his life.

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840837

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Posted: 8 years ago

Don't agree with your assessment at all. I'm not saying avni is right in everything she's done but neither has Neil. Her motivation fir every broken promise was fairly legit from her perspective and when it wasn't it was not really avni but a character destruction by CVs. But let's ignore that and take it at face value.

She went to RM because she wanted to get Neil out of his guilt. She knew he would not take a slightly offbeat or different route because he was hell bent on going by the book but time was ticking and he was dying of guilt. And she could not see Neil like that. And she did make good plans there. Just that some of them backfired mainly because she trusted Aman. If it wasn't fir Aman Neil would have got the message to postpone his raid and not got suspended or atleast she would have come out of the basement and alerted him if Aman had not drugged her

She never left Neil. When he disclosed the past the first thing he gave her was an out. It was when she said she'd not let go and stick by him that Neil really felt overwhelmed and accepted her proposal and confessed. The only time she offered to walk away was when she had been completely cornered and was weak in the moment. She did not just leave after writing a letter which is the route that a k serial bahu would have taken. She discussed it with him and when she saw his POV she dropped the plan

It was not her who suggested getting married to chuhi.it was bebe and later it was Neil who decided to go ahead with the drama to get a confession and avni very cutely said that don't get married for real

She stood by Neil as much as he stood by her. When she "betrayed"him and married him by "dhoka" she was forced by neela and she was mad with revenge and Aman had to be saved. Rhea had fled, dvm was going to lootofy khannad. From all angles she felt like it was a calculated risk and she intended to anull the marriage asap. Neil himself was going to fake the narriage anyway. So if they hadn't fallen for each other and Neil had also asked her to leave she would have gone. All she said those days was ehsaan and Neil rebuked her for it saying he did it because he wanted to. So she stuck around because she got signals from Neel too that he was interested.

Until Neil avni was masked by ananya. She did not speak her heart, she was always on guard she had never had a family . She had been betrayed by family. She had served tine in prison and her adoptive mom only encouraged her to get revenge. Only thing is she suddenly woke up and realized that in all that rage avni might murder the woman who killed both her parents, snatched her childhood, her identity and family. So Neil saved her from that.

After Neil she slowly learned to open up, trust. She put him on a pedestal. Fir the first time she felt belonging and family. So when she felt like Neil was ok with their relationship since he was not asking her to leave she found a place in everyone's heart including shweta. But obviously in one year she can't let go years of baggage so she still heart of heart was a little insecure. She felt bad when she thought Neil was apologizing because chuhi asked, she was furious when she saw chuhis reality. Only thing is she knew her husband usually demanded proof for everything and he would feel betrayed by chuhis lie becauae he did love her once upon a time so shee didn't tell him immediately. Anyway he found out. Then it was Neil who made the insane plan. Avni given past experience only had a smart backup which she wouldn't have gone through with of things had worked out. But next thing she knows she's seeing mishti being kidnapped again and vidyut has orchestrated the whole thing. This whole sequence was the most ILLOGICAL of all the illogical things CVs did but if we just go with it, avni had a gun throat in her hand by ballu. Chuhi was threatening to jump with mishti. What was she supposed to do. She would have never fired because she knew mishti was in chuhis arms. Neil had seen enough other evidence pointing to vidyuts role. But let's say vidyut destroyed proof. Even if Neel was forced to arrest her he could have reassured her that he believed her, but he was under pressure. avni would have gone to jail for him if he put in her that spot. Avnii wanted to run because she didn't want to be in jail for something she didn't do and because she didn't want Neel to be in a difficult position to arrest herr. If Neel felt like her running away would be problematic he should have confronted her and stopped it. He can read avni well. He knew what she'd do.

While avni was a broken soul with a bad past who had trust issues since childhood Neil was a normal boy who made an error of judgement when he believed everything his ex gf said. When he saw the trurth, instead of safeguarding his wife and t he childhe picked some insane route to tackle the situation which got avni in a fix. Now instead of explaining his position he has her believe that he does not trust her and imprisons her to"protectt"her, askss neela not to reveal the truth.

The maN who harped about communicating did not communicate his feelings to his wife who he knows is innocent!

Thennn for 6 months he did not find any evidence so now he's doing exactly what avni did in her childhood when the system failed her...go the vigilante route. And he's hoping that vidyut will get irked by this and confess! Whaate wow.

So if we just ignore all the loopholes and CV related character destruction and take the story at face value I definitely feel like between Neil and avni, Neil's mistakes have been costlier and more damaging to Avneil than avnis. Avni doesn't need anyone to avenge her. She'll do it herself because she's not gonna just sit and watch some guy destroy her life and get away with it. She will make sure she avenges it. And I dunno if she plans to kill him but if she does and then she gets arrested she will happily go to jail now and serve her time for a crime she did commit.

So I'm sorry I am provoked to rant when you say does avni "deserve" Neil?! That's unfair

You are entitled to you POV of course but I'm not ashamed to admit that as much as I love Avneil and both of them individually if I was forced to pick a side, I'd pick AVNI always!

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UKGirl22

@UKGirl22

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Posted: 8 years ago

Neeraja91, could not agree more!
I too like the characterisation of both Avni and Neel but there is no logical way to argue that Avni is not deserving of Neel. As DD himself said anyone else would have been filing for divorce. She did not rebuke him for walking away from her when he saw Juhi, for being blinded by everything other than his daughter for a while. He has always wanted her to confess her love, without first confessing his own feelings, until she proved her worth and loyalty time and time again (i.e. until her got him his (supposed) daughter). Of course the poor vulnerable girl doesn't really believe that anyone can love her and stand by her always. Look at what she has gone through.

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Tabassum

@Arieltabi

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Posted: 8 years ago

Riii I agree with you on this on some extent. Honestly her impulsiveness and plan B on Mishti's case irked me a lot. If she is in this condition she has no one to blame but her. She was the one who let her past affect her, she was the one who acted on impulse. Vidyut used her past cause she let him. She is hirt that Neil never trusted her but has she ever realized how Neil must have felt when Everytime he made her promise not to do something and she does exactly the same. Doesn't she always end up breaking Neil's trust. Now can she blame Neil for never trusting her when she always has broke her promise to him.

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BB_CallmeC

@BB_CallmeC

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Posted: 8 years ago

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I think its totally unfair to time and again judge AvNeil's love for one another!

Both have done their shares of mistake and both have owned up to them. We all can see Avni is not perfect because we have gotten more than an insight of the miserable life the poor soul have had. But Neil isn't perfect either. Just because he had a perfect life, doesn't make him perfect either. He has had his own share of past, hurt and phases (yes not as major as Avni but he did).

It is still subjective to say Avni had a horrible past compared to Neil. Any bystander or stranger would say this 100%. Even Neil would say that Avni suffered more than he ever did her whole life and thats a fact too. But the level of sufferings can only be defined by the person who has endured it and not the onlookers and sympathizers.

I am not going to go into what Avni did and what Neil did. I would just say they both are flawed and have done many mistakes. But whatever it was, it was for the happiness of the other or to protect their loved ones. Yes, the consequences have been major both ways. No matter how bad of a situation Avni had gotten herself in (DVM, RM) Neil has gotten her out. No matter how wrong Neil's decision of supporting Juhi was (Avni stuck through). They have been each others support all the while. Even when they didn't have to. Even when both had an option to walk away. So I will say please don't judge their love for one another.

And also with the CVs and team, I think we are repeating the same mistake again by just jumping to conclusions. Let them tell their story first. The leap has just started. They first need to show a buildup of everything which can take a story forward. Unfortunately in India, we only have a 20 min episode and its really hard to fit everything in, in one episode. I would say look at the bigger picture for now and then comment on the negatives of the track once you know the whole track. Team has been working really hard as we all can see. Lets cut some slack for them and let them tell their story openly.

Love and peace to all!

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