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delhigirl

@delhigirl

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Posted: 7 years ago

#21

@arshifan

i agree with Avni's past and i feel for her for that.

But just like Avni has done extraordinary things for her husband, even Neil has done that for her.

In fact it was neil who first chose to stay in that marriage which was completely not by his consent.

No ordinary man will do that.

He bought DM house at an exorbitant price just to get her started on the justice that she needed from DM.

he has never forced a physical relationship let alone a lip kiss for nearly a year.

But I do not want to compare that.

Both have done incredible things for each other in love when neither expected it.

But we always explain Avni's POV and sideline everything about Neil.

Avni's past is painful but we cannot always use that to justify her not taking neil's advice after promising him. Once she went to RM in disguise. She did not need to go to the RM second time just for Juhi when Neil really did not want her to.

She even left secretively when he was sleeping.

Then she showed so much trust that Neil will come to save her, no matter what.

At that time Neil had also not confessed his love explicitly.

I can give her the benefit of doubt that she saw so much of herself in Mishti that she could not think rationally many times and was too emotionally involved. But when she promised Neil that she will not do anything illegal or hide with Mishti, she promised him wholeheartedly and in a sane frame of mind.

He believed her because he was so much in love with her at that time.

Again I don't want to compare the two because what i am really missing right now is their chemistry and love when they are together on the screen.

All I am saying is that sympathy comes naturally for avni for everyone, but lets not forget what Neil is going through himself right now and how he even reached where he is today.

On the other hand, Zain and Aditi have made both these characters larger than life and i adore/appreciate both of their hardwork. they have equally contributed to the success of this show.

The episode is just not the same when both of them are not their on screen together even f they are angry with each other.

also i think this was just a forced separation, quickly done for damage control by the CVs.

i have to wait t see how well thought out this is really by them.

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Mandy

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Posted: 7 years ago

#22

Yes Avni deserves Neil because she deserves a life of love after everything she has endured. There is a reason why her past haunts her so much it is because no one ever lets her forget it! Just look at it, you had Dayawanti who taunted her for years and made her life hell then along comes Ragini and Juhi and again same thing. Avni has never been able to escape the shackles from her past and when she finally puts forward an effort where does it land her? For months Neil waited patiently for Avni to open up to him, to build that trust and break down those walls around her heart and when that was finally happening Neil did the very thing Avni feared the most - betrayal! Avni flat out asked Neil do you think I killed Juhi? Neil never gave her an answer and then when Bebe asked if he believes Avni could do such a thing he said yes, keep in mind this is after he pulled off her mangalsutra and wiped off her sindoor. I want to know exactly what Avni was supposed to think in that instant? How was that not supposed to leave her scarred? When Neil's own family could not question his motives how could Avni?

Why should Neil one day say I am done running after her when he is the one who chased her away? Neil is aware he is the reason behind whatever Avni has endured right now, he is the one who brought Juhi into their home, he is the one who blindly trusted Juhi over a night he could not remember and he was the one who failed to protect Avni. There is a reason why Neil is so rattled with guilt right now it is because he knows he is the one who let Avni down. Avni is not to blame here, yes she can be stubborn but she in no way deserved the fate she has been dealt with. Avni has spent the last six months in jail, why? Avni committed no crime and I disagree that she did not give her all to her marriage, everything Avni did was because of her love for Neil. What wife would go to a brothel to save their husband's ex because she could not see Neil so helpless and broken? What wife would stand by their husband after learning he had a child with his ex? Avni going to save Mishti was because she thought this child belonged to Neil, she was ready to be another Neela Maa because of Neil. Why was she ready to leave when she learned Neil was given an ultimatum to arrest her? It is because she thought that would be the most difficult thing for him to do, she didn't want to put him in that position but was she in for a shock. It wasn't Neil arresting her that broke whatever faith she had in him, it was him not saying once that he believed in her innocence. I get Neil had his reasonings for not telling Avni before her arrest but what about now? How is whatever Avni going through fair? This should not be Avni running behind Neil trying to pacify him when she learns why he did what he did, it should be Neil doing whatever it takes to win back that trust he broke. It should be Neil working his hardest to ensure he fulfills all those promises made to Avni about giving her a happily ever after.

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Miss-Behave

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Posted: 7 years ago

#23

Originally posted by: .Mandy.

Yes Avni deserves Neil because she deserves a life of love after everything she has endured. There is a reason why her past haunts her so much it is because no one ever lets her forget it! Just look at it, you had Dayawanti who taunted her for years and made her life hell then along comes Ragini and Juhi and again same thing. Avni has never been able to escape the shackles from her past and when she finally puts forward an effort where does it land her? For months Neil waited patiently for Avni to open up to him, to build that trust and break down those walls around her heart and when that was finally happening Neil did the very thing Avni feared the most - betrayal! Avni flat out asked Neil do you think I killed Juhi? Neil never gave her an answer and then when Bebe asked if he believes Avni could do such a thing he said yes, keep in mind this is after he pulled off her mangalsutra and wiped off her sindoor. I want to know exactly what Avni was supposed to think in that instant? How was that not supposed to leave her scarred? When Neil's own family could not question his motives how could Avni?

Why should Neil one day say I am done running after her when he is the one who chased her away? Neil is aware he is the reason behind whatever Avni has endured right now, he is the one who brought Juhi into their home, he is the one who blindly trusted Juhi over a night he could not remember and he was the one who failed to protect Avni. There is a reason why Neil is so rattled with guilt right now it is because he knows he is the one who let Avni down. Avni is not to blame here, yes she can be stubborn but she in no way deserved the fate she has been dealt with. Avni has spent the last six months in jail, why? Avni committed no crime and I disagree that she did not give her all to her marriage, everything Avni did was because of her love for Neil. What wife would go to a brothel to save their husband's ex because she could not see Neil so helpless and broken? What wife would stand by their husband after learning he had a child with his ex? Avni going to save Mishti was because she thought this child belonged to Neil, she was ready to be another Neela Maa because of Neil. Why was she ready to leave when she learned Neil was given an ultimatum to arrest her? It is because she thought that would be the most difficult thing for him to do, she didn't want to put him in that position but was she in for a shock. It wasn't Neil arresting her that broke whatever faith she had in him, it was him not saying once that he believed in her innocence. I get Neil had his reasonings for not telling Avni before her arrest but what about now? How is whatever Avni going through fair? This should not be Avni running behind Neil trying to pacify him when she learns why he did what he did, it should be Neil doing whatever it takes to win back that trust he broke. It should be Neil working his hardest to ensure he fulfills all those promises made to Avni about giving her a happily ever after.

Love you and your wise words so much Mandy 👏 None of this is about whom runs after who more, or who puts more effort into maintaining the relationship, but it's about making up for one another's flaws with unconditional love, accepting each other despite their pasts by seeing one another for whom they are, and on that basis, knowing in their heart that the other deserves their love and companionship. That together, they are meant to be, as apart they are two broken souls who only together can heal one another.

Neil knows very well and recognises that their enemies constantly bring up avni's past intentionally to hurt her, so when people are out to attack her slowly healing wounds, how is she able to overcome her past completely?

That is why he is always concerned for her; because he knows that people around her with ill- intentions will always target her using her past as their weapon, and an already insecure and hurt avni can only be healed by his patience and love. That's why I see no possibility of Neil ever thinking he has had enough of carrying the weight of baggage of avni's past in their relationship, and just walk out on her.

Neil has fully come to understand exactly what she has gone through, and that only he can heal her by ensuring her that she is worthy of being loved, trusted and respected, everything that she has been told and given the impression that she doesn't deserve since she was a child.

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anjalii123

@anjalii123

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Posted: 7 years ago

#24

Originally posted by: sammy17

Love you and your wise words so much Mandy 👏 None of this is about whom runs after who more, or who puts more effort into maintaining the relationship, but it's about making up for one another's flaws with unconditional love, accepting each other despite their pasts by seeing one another for whom they are, and on that basis, knowing in their heart that the other deserves their love and companionship. That together, they are meant to be, as apart they are two broken souls who only together can heal one another.

Neil knows very well and recognises that their enemies constantly bring up avni's past intentionally to hurt her, so when people are out to attack her slowly healing wounds, how is she able to overcome her past completely?

That is why he is always concerned for her; because he knows that people around her with ill- intentions will always target her using her past as their weapon, and an already insecure and hurt avni can only be healed by his patience and love. That's why I see no possibility of Neil ever thinking he has had enough of carrying the weight of baggage of avni's past in their relationship, and just walk out on her.

Neil has fully come to understand exactly what she has gone through, and that only he can heal her by ensuring her that she is worthy of being loved, trusted and respected, everything that she has been told and given the impression that she doesn't deserve since she was a child.

Mandy n Sammy..perfectly said..I agree everythin u both said n theres nothing to add..

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Mandy

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Posted: 7 years ago

#25

Originally posted by: sammy17

Love you and your wise words so much Mandy 👏 None of this is about whom runs after who more, or who puts more effort into maintaining the relationship, but it's about making up for one another's flaws with unconditional love, accepting each other despite their pasts by seeing one another for whom they are, and on that basis, knowing in their heart that the other deserves their love and companionship. That together, they are meant to be, as apart they are two broken souls who only together can heal one another.

Neil knows very well and recognises that their enemies constantly bring up avni's past intentionally to hurt her, so when people are out to attack her slowly healing wounds, how is she able to overcome her past completely?

That is why he is always concerned for her; because he knows that people around her with ill- intentions will always target her using her past as their weapon, and an already insecure and hurt avni can only be healed by his patience and love. That's why I see no possibility of Neil ever thinking he has had enough of carrying the weight of baggage of avni's past in their relationship, and just walk out on her.

Neil has fully come to understand exactly what she has gone through, and that only he can heal her by ensuring her that she is worthy of being loved, trusted and respected, everything that she has been told and given the impression that she doesn't deserve since she was a child.

Exactly the whole who loves who more is just not valid here. I don't doubt for a minute how much Avni and Neil love each other and how selfless both have been in that love. Neil and Avni have their flaws but they more than make up for those flaws when together, there is a reason why they stood so strong against the worst of times.

You nailed it about Neil he knows everything Avni has endured, why she would hate him and the hell she is going through right now because he couldn't be there for her. Why would he ever leave someone he loves so much? Who is in this position because of the demons from his past? Neil is never going to let Avni go nor should he. Avni deserves to have her happily ever after, she deserves to have a guy who would do anything and everything to bring a smile to her face and make her feel safe. It is only Neil who can heal Avni the way he did before and he will do just that because he loves and accepts Avni for who she is and knows she deserves a fate far better than the one she has been dealt with

Edited by .Mandy. - 7 years ago

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TSharan

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Posted: 7 years ago

#26

Originally posted by: .Mandy.

Yes Avni deserves Neil because she deserves a life of love after everything she has endured. There is a reason why her past haunts her so much it is because no one ever lets her forget it! Just look at it, you had Dayawanti who taunted her for years and made her life hell then along comes Ragini and Juhi and again same thing. Avni has never been able to escape the shackles from her past and when she finally puts forward an effort where does it land her? For months Neil waited patiently for Avni to open up to him, to build that trust and break down those walls around her heart and when that was finally happening Neil did the very thing Avni feared the most - betrayal! Avni flat out asked Neil do you think I killed Juhi? Neil never gave her an answer and then when Bebe asked if he believes Avni could do such a thing he said yes, keep in mind this is after he pulled off her mangalsutra and wiped off her sindoor. I want to know exactly what Avni was supposed to think in that instant? How was that not supposed to leave her scarred? When Neil's own family could not question his motives how could Avni?

Why should Neil one day say I am done running after her when he is the one who chased her away? Neil is aware he is the reason behind whatever Avni has endured right now, he is the one who brought Juhi into their home, he is the one who blindly trusted Juhi over a night he could not remember and he was the one who failed to protect Avni. There is a reason why Neil is so rattled with guilt right now it is because he knows he is the one who let Avni down. Avni is not to blame here, yes she can be stubborn but she in no way deserved the fate she has been dealt with. Avni has spent the last six months in jail, why? Avni committed no crime and I disagree that she did not give her all to her marriage, everything Avni did was because of her love for Neil. What wife would go to a brothel to save their husband's ex because she could not see Neil so helpless and broken? What wife would stand by their husband after learning he had a child with his ex? Avni going to save Mishti was because she thought this child belonged to Neil, she was ready to be another Neela Maa because of Neil. Why was she ready to leave when she learned Neil was given an ultimatum to arrest her? It is because she thought that would be the most difficult thing for him to do, she didn't want to put him in that position but was she in for a shock. It wasn't Neil arresting her that broke whatever faith she had in him, it was him not saying once that he believed in her innocence. I get Neil had his reasonings for not telling Avni before her arrest but what about now? How is whatever Avni going through fair? This should not be Avni running behind Neil trying to pacify him when she learns why he did what he did, it should be Neil doing whatever it takes to win back that trust he broke. It should be Neil working his hardest to ensure he fulfills all those promises made to Avni about giving her a happily ever after.

In addition to what you wrote, here are my 2 cents...if Avni has broken her promises, then Neil has broken his promise too. He promised her a happily ever after, a fairytale life and took that all away in an instant. He gave her all the love she aspired for, a family she yearned for but publicly broke off the relationship at the most crucial juncture of her life. Avni has always been betrayed by the people she loved and trusted the most ...right from her childhood. In trying to protect her, Neil caused the biggest setback of Avni's adult life.

Avni deserves Neil and Neil deserves her. No other girl could have ever done what she did for Neil, just like no other guy would have done for Avni. They are both made for each other with their own flaws and demons. Neil had only one demon...Juhi who turned out to be a cunning woman whereas Avni's demons are many. At every stage she has had to prove herself.

I agree with Mandy, that both Neela and Neil really need to work hard to restore Avni's confidence and trust. They have their work cut out for them. If they thought finding evidence would be easy, then they are so wrong. Avni must know the truth now. Perhaps she will be more receptive to the reasoning behind Neil's intentions. But if this is prolonged, it will be harder to bring the old girl back. Avni is in jail because of Neil's error of judgement about Juhi. We got Neil's monologue today...I want to see more of that. Neil needs more patience dealing with Avni this time around. I agree she made mistakes but Avni was just trying to do the right thing for her family n husband.

We all value out freedom. That was snatched from Avni in a jiffy in the name of protection and nothing can be harsher than that. In today's episode, I was so anguished to see Avni. And I am very sure that if this jail track is prolonged too much, I won't be able to watch it! That is how well Aditi connects me to Avni's current state.

CVs better not show Avni in jail for too long!!! If they plan to prolong, let her know why Neil did it. For Avneil to have a future together, it is must. Both can take their time to rebuild the lost trust but reveal the truth to the girl! She needs to have her share of happiness.

Edited by TSharan - 7 years ago

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Mandy

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Posted: 7 years ago

#27

I think this time Neil will have more patience when dealing with Avni because he is going to know exactly where she is coming from. Before he used to get frustrated but now I feel it will be more anger towards himself because he is responsible for igniting Avni into becoming Ananya Verma again. Neil is very aware of the hatred that must have built towards Avni for him, the fact he failed to live up to the promises he made to her but he has not given up on her for a second. Avni continues to immerse his thoughts, he continues to feel that pain of not being able to get her the justice she deserves. Neil is going to fight for her and he will do whatever it takes to heal the wounds he was responsible for inflicting on Avni.

I truly hope Neil reveals the truth to Avni soon, she deserves to know. I see nothing gained from hiding it. Neil wanting Avni back in his life means he will have to be truthful to her regarding why he put her behind bars. Perhaps the prison break attempt will shed new perspective to Neil about the damage he did by keeping the truth all these months. In NK nothing drags and after the mess that occurred during the Juhi track they cannot afford to make the same mistakes again. Avni should know the truth and slowly they work to rebuild the trust that was lost during their separation.

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Posted: 7 years ago

#28

Originally posted by: .Mandy.

Yes Avni deserves Neil because she deserves a life of love after everything she has endured. There is a reason why her past haunts her so much it is because no one ever lets her forget it! Just look at it, you had Dayawanti who taunted her for years and made her life hell then along comes Ragini and Juhi and again same thing. Avni has never been able to escape the shackles from her past and when she finally puts forward an effort where does it land her? For months Neil waited patiently for Avni to open up to him, to build that trust and break down those walls around her heart and when that was finally happening Neil did the very thing Avni feared the most - betrayal! Avni flat out asked Neil do you think I killed Juhi? Neil never gave her an answer and then when Bebe asked if he believes Avni could do such a thing he said yes, keep in mind this is after he pulled off her mangalsutra and wiped off her sindoor. I want to know exactly what Avni was supposed to think in that instant? How was that not supposed to leave her scarred? When Neil's own family could not question his motives how could Avni?

Why should Neil one day say I am done running after her when he is the one who chased her away? Neil is aware he is the reason behind whatever Avni has endured right now, he is the one who brought Juhi into their home, he is the one who blindly trusted Juhi over a night he could not remember and he was the one who failed to protect Avni. There is a reason why Neil is so rattled with guilt right now it is because he knows he is the one who let Avni down. Avni is not to blame here, yes she can be stubborn but she in no way deserved the fate she has been dealt with. Avni has spent the last six months in jail, why? Avni committed no crime and I disagree that she did not give her all to her marriage, everything Avni did was because of her love for Neil. What wife would go to a brothel to save their husband's ex because she could not see Neil so helpless and broken? What wife would stand by their husband after learning he had a child with his ex? Avni going to save Mishti was because she thought this child belonged to Neil, she was ready to be another Neela Maa because of Neil. Why was she ready to leave when she learned Neil was given an ultimatum to arrest her? It is because she thought that would be the most difficult thing for him to do, she didn't want to put him in that position but was she in for a shock. It wasn't Neil arresting her that broke whatever faith she had in him, it was him not saying once that he believed in her innocence. I get Neil had his reasonings for not telling Avni before her arrest but what about now? How is whatever Avni going through fair? This should not be Avni running behind Neil trying to pacify him when she learns why he did what he did, it should be Neil doing whatever it takes to win back that trust he broke. It should be Neil working his hardest to ensure he fulfills all those promises made to Avni about giving her a happily ever after.

Mandy sweetheart you almost always echo my thoughts but your writing is so much better than mine! I wish I could pen my thoughts as well as you. Much love! Please write FFs also na...I'd love to read! But I think with avni in zen mode she will forgive him soon. But to rebuild the trust again will take time!

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Mandy

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Posted: 7 years ago

#29

Originally posted by: neeraja91

Mandy sweetheart you almost always echo my thoughts but your writing is so much better than mine! I wish I could pen my thoughts as well as you. Much love! Please write FFs also na...I'd love to read! But I think with avni in zen mode she will forgive him soon. But to rebuild the trust again will take time!

Thank you! After reading your post it gave me new perspective into Neil and Avni's role reversals, Avni may very well forgive Neil because her anger is not directed towards him. If Avni were to learn that Neil has always believed in her innocence it would melt her because that is all she ever wanted but when will she know that truth? I am really hoping Avni knows the truth and it comes from Neil himself, let him have a heart to heart with Avni he has nothing to lose.

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Ashi_Naksh

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Posted: 7 years ago

#30

@Mandy - you voiced my opinion..👏

I don't agree with the notion that Avni has conditions in love. If she had conditioned love for Neil then she would not have accepted him with his hangup of past, his love child those are huge things for a married woman. Love & Trust are two different things. Avni has issues with trust but she loves him unconditionally.

If Neil don't deserve a blessing like Avni than I don't know exactly who he deserves or as the question put in who deserves Neil. Neil is not some perfect creation of god. He has his own faults same as Avni. If Neil did lot of things for Avni then she has also done the same. So I don't know why he is been put on pedestal to know whether someone deserve him or not. Both deserve each other cause they accepted each other with all their faults. Both deserve each other cause they have fought for each other. Both deserve each other cause they love each other. Both deserve each other cause they are the reason for happiness of each other.

If they both don't deserve each other for above reasons then I don't know who they deserve in life.

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Edited by Ashi_Naksh - 7 years ago