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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: Simi1711

While I agree to everything you said, I have to put my two cents for Neil giving Juhi's child his name.
If it is truly what he wants and Avni wants, then it is their choice, their mutual decision.
But my point is.. why does he have to give that child his name?

Does a mother have no role to play in her child's life? Does she not have the rights on her child? Why does a child need a father's name ?
I know of many single mothers who are brilliant at their parenting skills and work too, and have no qualms letting their kids grow up taking their last name as their surname.


So honestly it will be moot for me to see Neil giving Juhi's child his name (if it is not his child) just to keep up with the term Naamkaran'
Juhi is a mature adult who can certainly take care of her kid on her own and give it her name.

Everything else, I totally second you.
It is good to see Avni doing so much to help the man who mended her, have his own closure.
It only strengthens their own bond together. 😊


Bold I agree with it. Avni is the best example of it. Yes the mother has the big role to play in her child's life. I am not saying they should end up giving the name to the child. I am saying in the If Scenario. Maybe NK Cvs will surprise us yet again by Juhi choosing to raise the child without father's name which would be a lovely message. Let the message be that single mothers like her have nothing to be ashamed of. They are not in the wrong, neither is the child.

And I am all for fighting that father's name for a child is not at all essential to have for a child in the society. That is not what makes you a person in the society.


Edited by dsupriya - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
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He won't give the kid his name if Juhi is alive, he might adopt the kid if Juhi dies and he will definitely ask for Avni's approval first, but maybe nothing of that will happen at first place maybe they will help Juhi and get her back her child defeat RP's son allowing Juhi to have a normal life as a single mother bringing up her child with her head held high. That's a good social message!

ETA : If an adoption is planned if Juhi dies, I feel Avni would be the one suggesting it, not Neil!
Edited by arshisfan - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: arshisfan

It was beautifully written Supriya, hence my suggestion of posting it

I feel there is not only one way of viewing things, if we want to understand, then we should first remove the bias, think as human beings from a psychological point of view, not judge others by our set of values, or expect them to behave the way we will, even when it comes to us we behave at times differently in similar situations, I feel we should accept the difference, accept that we can never know the other 100%, we might at max try to empathise with them but we can never pretend that we really feel exactly their pain, or feel exactly what they feel, or experience exactly what they experienced!

I am personally against judging people, and when the judgement is based on incomplete facts then it's bound to be unfair or at least the risk of it being unfair is high.

About AvNeil, I feel till date, their relationship has set an example at many levels and it's still doing it and though I don't know what will happen in the future but I'm sure it will get only stronger and more beautiful. Neil stood by her and brought her his unconditional love and support even before knowing she has feelings for him, he never asked her for anything in return, he fought her case like his, I still remember when he had tears in his eyes the day she was going to kill Dayavanti Mehta, he told her "tum khoni nahin hoon" and saved her from a dark fate. His past is different but it's his past, he helped her to overcome hers and she is helping him overcome his guilt, they accepted each other the way they are and that's the real and unconditional love.


Thanks Naj for pushing me to post this. yes the last bit is what made me think. And I am glad they are showing a beautiful relationship which is pure, yet complex and flawed. And is that not so in real life. Nothing comes with guarantees, and nothing is perfect. It is when 2 imperfect people join trying to accept imperfections and perfections to make the relationship work is what makes a strong binding relationship. And that can be any relationship, be it of friends, be it of mother daughter and anything.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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I agree with all of you.
@Simi, I think that's the beauty of NK as a show, where they are promoting this new Soch. I completely agree with your points. Juhi as a character has so much potential ( The actress not so much! lol). She can show how rape victims can overcome their pain, and how they can move on with life. Rape is a huge issue in India where women need to be shown that they can live after the fact, and they do not need a man's acceptance in order to do so.

Let's showcase this thought. I would not want Neil to give this child his name. He can be an uncle/a godfather, or anything else. He can always be there for her without giving her his name. There are so many wonderful relationships in this life that have no name.

We've mentioned this in the past posts as well. Avni's most beautiful relationships are the ones SHE made. Not the ones made by blood.

@Supriya, you're absolutely correct. Neil accepted Avni, despite everything. He accepted her past and shaped her into the person she is right now. The fact that she can go down on one knee and bare her soul to him shows so much growth and so much progress in her character. And all of that is because of Neil. He's her belief system, he's her moral compass and he's her life.

When she made me peace with the fact that Neil dated someone in the past, and is currently helping him overcome his reservations and his guilt, then that's the beauty of any relationship.

Relationships are made of compromises. Of give and takes. I think it's very commendable that the show is portraying that, instead of just showing how everything is all rainbows and unicorns all the time. Because we know that's not what love is.

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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: TSharan

The USP of NK is a strong ML and a strong FL. Indian shows are known to compromise characters for any stupid twist. I love Avneil chemistry, love to see them romance but above all I love their honesty towards one another and how they work together as a team. At no stage do I want that compromised for any kind of twist.


I have seen a strong ML after a long time, a ML who has an actual job and who is not a mute spectator to what the FL does, who respects his woman for who she is and who is THANKFULLY not an angry young man! He is an equal partner, supporter and I have a lot of respect for the character. I don't want Neil to fall from grace in any which way. Even if he is the girl's father (which I think he isn't), Avni needs to know. She must be taken into confidence at every stage.

If they decide to adopt the baby girl, that's also fine provided both Avni and Neil decide it, not just one of them.

I have a lot of respect for Mahesh Bhatt as a director so I do hope he/his team will keep the USP of the show alive and not compromise it.

Juhi's presence is anyways going to cause a lot of chaos in AvNeil's life eEven if she is positive, esp with the family...

If the girl is indeed a rape child, CVs can show how Avneil help Juhi n her girl start a fresh life. AvNeil do not have to adopt the baby. They can show how Juhi learns to live independently and raise her daughter without a father. A child needs both parents but if circumstances are otherwise, a mother can surely raise a child alone.

My main issue is with the actress!! I just don't relate to her at all.

I also want them to show this message that child born from rape or of a prostitute sorry for using harsh word has a right to life with dignity and respect. They have equal roght to education and good things in life. And the mothers are strong enough to withstand these injustices and be fighters. I will not call them survivors. Let's hope they do that
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Posted: 7 years ago
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M so glad to read such a positive note on India forum .woowowowow u nailed it dear.So true .Each n every line n that's what marriage is .Totally agree.If we see why avni is doing this is also she also got a mother Neela like dat.Neela loved ashish since childhood n dreamt of marrying him n spending whole life with him.Bt then injustice done to avni made her divorce ashish.She later rescued avni n gave her love of mom dad frn everyone.So now she s trying to do what her Mom did.Thank you for this post dear.u r fab n kind heart
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: shikhsk

M so glad to read such a positive note on India forum .woowowowow u nailed it dear.So true .Each n every line n that's what marriage is .Totally agree.If we see why avni is doing this is also she also got a mother Neela like dat.Neela loved ashish since childhood n dreamt of marrying him n spending whole life with him.Bt then injustice done to avni made her divorce ashish.She later rescued avni n gave her love of mom dad frn everyone.So now she s trying to do what her Mom did.Thank you for this post dear.u r fab n kind heart


Thanks Shikha, and yes she has examples of Neela as well for unconditional love so nothing different. Neela who loved her more than anyone else. Who divorced her husband when he put Avni in jail. If that is appreciable then this should also be.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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I agree and disagree.

Agree: as long as AvNeil take the decision together.

Disagree: Being a AvNeil shipper, i want AvNeil first child as their own.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: nlisa

I agree with all of you.

@Simi, I think that's the beauty of NK as a show, where they are promoting this new Soch. I completely agree with your points. Juhi as a character has so much potential ( The actress not so much! lol). She can show how rape victims can overcome their pain, and how they can move on with life. Rape is a huge issue in India where women need to be shown that they can live after the fact, and they do not need a man's acceptance in order to do so.

Let's showcase this thought. I would not want Neil to give this child his name. He can be an uncle/a godfather, or anything else. He can always be there for her without giving her his name. There are so many wonderful relationships in this life that have no name.

We've mentioned this in the past posts as well. Avni's most beautiful relationships are the ones SHE made. Not the ones made by blood.

@Supriya, you're absolutely correct. Neil accepted Avni, despite everything. He accepted her past and shaped her into the person she is right now. The fact that she can go down on one knee and bare her soul to him shows so much growth and so much progress in her character. And all of that is because of Neil. He's her belief system, he's her moral compass and he's her life.

When she made me peace with the fact that Neil dated someone in the past, and is currently helping him overcome his reservations and his guilt, then that's the beauty of any relationship.

Relationships are made of compromises. Of give and takes. I think it's very commendable that the show is portraying that, instead of just showing how everything is all rainbows and unicorns all the time. Because we know that's not what love is.

Nlisa Bold that is what relationships are made of and I am glad that NK is bringing that out. Yes to the first part I would rather he does not give his name to the child and allow Juhi to be strong who can take care of the child without any fear. Let's see how they take it. Because even after the child is rescued am sure the villains will not be demolished. 😆
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: -AvniNeil-

I agree and disagree.

Agree: as long as AvNeil take the decision together.

Disagree: Being a AvNeil shipper, i want AvNeil first child as their own.

Yes that is a natural reaction and wish... that AvNeil have their own first child

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