Originally posted by: Azalea.
Can I start by saying (without sounding patronising) how much I love your style of writing! I've been visiting the forum a lot more after each episode just to read your views/analysis!
Thank you for responding to my questions.
Your words reflect my own sentiments. Good communication definitely plays a key role in any relationship. As much as I enjoy the little nok-jhoks between Avni/Neil, I yearn for deep, meaningful conversations between the characters.
If we draw upon some of the recent events, there have been a myriad of opportunities for writers to show some insightful discussions between the characters.
For example:
A) A conversation between Avni and Amol during which she reassures him that despite his upbringing, he still has the capacity to become a good person. I wanted to see Avni rehashing memories of their mum, and explaining how Neela has helped to fill that void in her life. That connection between the siblings is lacking.
B) Shweta with all her heart believes Avni is not suited for Neil. But has she ever cared to find out how Neil feels? Surely his efforts to prove Avni innocent were indicative of his feelings towards her? More importantly, why doesn't Neil question his mum on her recent behaviour and lack of respect towards his wife?
I praise the writers often for Neil's characterisation, but I'm disappointed in the Avni's character. Where is that passion and spunk? Why is Indian television still spitting out the same saas-babu drivel? This is where SP's Nayi Soch tag falls short!
This is why I try not to get too attached to TV shows - it's midnight in my part of the world and I'm sitting here rambling about NK! 😆
@ Red, oh! thank you 😳 Nice to know that, I also like to read your posts, and there are some members of this forum who have a nice thinking process.
@Bold I wish we get more of them (the meaningful conversations), there were some few but as of late we don't get them, I want the bonding between AvNeil to become stronger, they already have a bond, they trust each other, but they need to open up more, I'm in no hurry for them to confess if they give me enough conversations where they get to know more about each other, they can do activities together, share things, share opinions.. they don't need to keep feeling awkward, friends can talk about anything and everything with each other, so even if they still hesitate to express their love feelings, they can still share a lot of other things about their personalities, their past, their lives...
Same with Amol and Avni, she needs to talk to him, to bridge the gap between them, she also needs to spend time with her Nanoo, for God's sake, they have been apart for 15years the least she can do now is give time to these people who are close to her heart and of whom she has been deprived all these years!!!!
Maybe the Cvs/channel/PH are under the impression that kitchen politics sell, so whenever they need numbers they go for them, but the show has been doing wonders post-leap without the typical kitchen politics. Now I can't tell they don't sell, as many shows survived on them, but Naamkaran post leap I guess was different and it got good ratings, so if you can get Trps without kitchen politics then why go the cliched way! People need something refreshing, real yet pleasant. I personally like shows where there are relatable people, I like to see the individual journeys of leads and how they come together, overcome their inner demons and thrive as individuals and as a couple, I also don't like much the concept of villains, I like grey characters instead, people who have their own reasons for what they do and who aren't totally wrong from where they come from. This plotting, kitchen politics are too cliched and not entertaining!
@ Blue Yes there have been many opportunities to show that, one of them is post Neil defending Avni in front of his family and the latter returning back. I love couples who understand each other without any need of words, but I feel they needed to clarify few things. I myself still don't get it very much about what Neil exactly felt, whether he went into a tiny moment of doubt or not, I know Cvs/director in their attempt to keep the suspense intact didn't give away much about what Neil felt exactly, I know he is not the kind of people who would jump to conclusions, he didn't accuse Avni, I feel deep down he trused her but he didn't tell her that he trusts her, he didn't say to others at that moment itself that why a woman should always be questioned, let's suppose he wanted to make them understand in an impactful way like he did but at least he should have reassured Avni, he kept avoiding her, and the poor soul (Avni) was going through a lot, while he could have spared her all this, or did he deem it fit that they should go through all this pain to make others understand but then he has risked losing her, for a woman it's hard to face such accusations! So yes I loved all what he said to his family but at the same time, I felt he needed to take a stand way way before, had he done it or at least reassured Avni before, things wouldn't have escalted the way they did, so by not communicating with his wife, avoiding her he is also responsible for her leaving the house!
But maybe he needed time to think and analyse things, afterall in such situations one can't tell, but as you said we like Neil for being different from other male leads on indian tv.
Anyways I guess they played it that way (defending her after a whole plan) unlike what the promo showed (defending her on the spot) to create suspense for the viewers of whether Neil will trust her or not just to come up with the googly of everything being his plan to prove her innocence.
It's just that while doing this, they raised few questions, Neil used Riya, it's not ethical, I know Riya is no white pigeon, what she did was disgusting (tarnishing a woman's repuation being a woman herself!!!) but what matters most to me is Neil's character and his principles, the bottom line is that he used her without her consent to prove his point and he published the pictures in a newspaper which made her reputation questioned. At least they could have shown that the newspaper was fake and he made it only for that purpose and there are no other copies of it that went to the general public, they could have also shown that he is well aware of what Riya did to tarnish Avni's reputation, so to make her understand her mistake he put her in the same situation she put Avni in , all this obviously without having the newspaper diffused. These few little details could have avoided me raising questions about whether the way Neil tried to prove his point was right or wrong, for me it was wrong because these few details weren't included, he could have called his friend Malini and with her consent made that whole act and obviously with no diffusion of the newspaper. That would have been ethical, as it would have been an act, the person involved aware of it, she being a cop would understand too.
Anyways we know they did it that way for drama and suspense but they need to pay attention to how they show things
So As I said some clarification would have done wonders, they don't always need to rush, instead of showing the gang plotting for a long time, they should give much more importance to tying up the loose ends. Neil telling her that deep down he trusted her, he didn't want her to go through all this, she doesn't need to prove anything but he needed to make his own family understand where they went wrong, Avni also should have clarified that she called him many times to clear the pregnancy misunderstanding... A discussion would have made things more convincing, but maybe Cvs didn't want heavy dialogues and wanted to create light moments and they made it clear through Avni's thank u that Neil always trusts her
Back to Avni, I agree with you, she is shown oblivious of what is happening around her, where is the alert, shrewd Avni of pre-marriage who used to turn the tables (remember when Riya and Diksha tried to frame her in the jewellery theft, or when Amol wanted to show the video featuring her mom's face and she was a step ahead and not only blurred that part of the video but also showed a video sequence of Dayavanti talking about the mortgage and the video was taken by Diksha's phone!) I miss that Avni. By now, she knows to which extent some people can go and she knows Shweta was involved in showing her in a bad light, so she should be one step ahead of her too! She should know how to play her games, didn't she try to win Dayavanti when she was a child yet she failed, some people can just never change, they have this unjustified hatred and who better than Avni to know this!! While I understand she is grateful to Neil, Bebe and Prakash, she should also be realistic in her approach with Shweta, Neil himself seems to feel his mom is a lost case though I don't know whether he knows to which extent she can go!
Anyways a lot of bak bak, I wrote a whole essay😆, I just kept typing whatever came to my mind, the bottom line is if we try to analyze bit by bit we would find many glitches but we can be happy with the general effort they put in the show if they spare us the overdose of kitchen politics and at least stay away from butchering the leads' characters, Avni's bahufication as we know has already started!
Edited by arshisfan - 8 years ago
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