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Posted: 8 years ago
Ooh interesting food for a Sunday morning ladies. As usual M is awesome in her analysis and Azalea, your insomniac rambling is good. Hope we get more of that 😆 even though inadequate sleep sucks.


What attracted me to this story was how instant their chemistry/connect was. Like no time waste in faltoo ka attitude tashan or bickering, nothing Ott. And yet it was dramatic...a classic jungle mein raat bitana track where they got to know each other a bit and later kept bumping into each other. What interesting was we got to see their jungle scene immediately after their individual scenes where we see Neil soaked in rain, then DD Ali Neil scene in Cafe /avni revenge Wala monologue and the beautiful shot from above where she walks past him near a washroom. I don't know if that's what soulmate is supposed to be...Neil didn't see this girl's face, he was looking for a criminal and yet she brushes past him and his expression there, it's like something slipping by and he needs to desperately to hold on, yet he's curious, not going after her, just watching. And the expression wasn't like oh you criminal, maybe it's the criminal...it was attraction or longing for something. It was like he didn't think he needed this but he got this now, and what now? Then she leaves and his face, so disappointed. This is all in a matter of few seconds max. And avni expression when she looks up- probably first smile. A satisfaction to outdo a cop (did she know someone was after her?) Satisfaction to return and take revenge? A "here I go" smile to start her journey? Who knows...but it cake from deep within and though Neil didn't see her face it's like he ached because of it, cause he wasn't there to see. Or maybe I am reading too much into this 😆



Then the jungle track. When Neil just hovers over an unconscious avni, not trying to give mouth to mouth or even touching her, just hovering over her face and his expression was like contemplating, as if trying to figure out. He barely knew her and he was intrigued, and this is where it started. Btw we still don't know why he was near that cliff,my head Canon has always been that it's probably Juhi(and later his) favorite spot and he went there cause of the turmoil he experienced in the first encounter with avni. To clear his head. Ok...then avni woke up and they had a bit bickering, and it's interesting how he just gravitate towards her. They just met and their physical proximity is that of two people who know each other since ages, and it's not a tv trope thingy. It was like his always...even when they were in public like the entire Rhea wedding track, whenever they stand beside each other they looked like a team, a couple rather than two people who barely know each other. He pulls her toward him twice..that snake thingy and the defense lesson he gives which she later use to defend herself. And both the time she's surprised but not really resisting like a girl should be...for all she knew he can be a creep. During the physical defense thing she resist but eventually relaxed, and later during that bonfire she's completely relaxed, letting him tend to her wound, sitting beside her, letting him show a vulnerable side. Even she jokes about her "savior" giving credit to him to save her life. And in that scene, they were sitting so close, he's touching her wound so softly and she's letting him! She probably realized back then this guy is a bit crazy but good man, and she's safe with him. Throughout the bonfire scene Neil the way he looks at her, very open and get trying to figure out this crazy chick who stands on the side of cliff and nearly drowned him, who's impulsive and reckless, and yet there is something about her. He's trying to figure out what.




And then the entire ananya thing. I really really liked those scenes not cause they played each other and the dynamic, cause Neil was so interesting in those scenes. We have seen him interacting with multiple people now- DD, shweta, Prakash, Rhea, dayavanti. DD ges bossing him, pulls his leg, sheet he indulges her, he tolerated Rhea and is respectful to the last two. But he's that and something else with ananya...he teases her (the scene where avni kneels in front of him with ring) and she teases him back and he's self conscious. She's only person who made him feel like that, and he looks like an adorable dork then. Not this police officer seeker of Justice, not a son who's not really want to marry but doing anyway. Just Neil, a normal man. He is highly frustrated with the circumstancial evidence around ananya and is trying to push down the weird feelings and becoming aggressive. The entire chor police dance/party and later he trying to see her locket. And by now avni is getting pissed too. What also interesting is when one of them is angry other is not. Avni was rightly scared about the locket but once he was proved wrong she blasted him, and oh boy I became a fan then. There was this lapse of judgment from Neils side, probably the first time he felt maybe he's wrong and avni started thinking she needs to stay away cause his nosiness may make him a colletoral damage. What made me root for Neil was how he looked apologetic, he knew a line was crossed and she was immensely hurt and her hurt was refelcted on his face. Two scenes- she walking past him when shweta did that drama and later when she helped with Shweta and he takes a deep breath before apologizing only to see she wasn't there. I was sold on him, it's been established he was a good man, just man, but there was a bit of grayness during the party and it was cleared. And of course the next scene, he inviting her to Cafe and gifting that punching bag. There was this grown working man who have a most dangerous career, he has a walking disaster of a mom (whom he repeatedly puts down for her own good) who has endured some trauma in life and basically a well rounded man. And he was nervous to apologise to a girl ! He was stammering and reharshing his apologies and then she walked in, and once again that thing just like their first encounter. He felt it, he just knew . Once again loved the shot where avnis reflection is seen on mirror and she turns and then he turns to face her. The way he looks at her, it's just something else. Can't describe.



Ok this was a rambling which followed nothing, but I just have a lot of feels, okay? 😆





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Posted: 8 years ago
@Avengers lovely post, while reading it, it took me to AvNeil's magical world
And about rambling tell us about it😆, we plan to post a short analysis and we end up with a long post, I guess it's what happens when we let our thoughts flow and when we are inspired either by AvNeil's scenes or the beautiful analysis given by some of this thread's members.


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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: arshisfan

Ep 252; 28th July

Avni doesn't seem to ponder over why she feels the way she feels with Neil, why so much hesitation in giving a gift to a friend who helped you, let's suppose it was Ali or some other friend, she would have given the gift and said thank you without thinking it twice, the truth is that she has feelings for him which go beyond frienship, she might not have admitted it to herself but these feelings are the reason why she behaves the way she does. He affects her but she doesn't want him to know it 😆 So even the simple things become difficult for her when it comes to him as she thinks about how she would talk to him, what she will say. And why would she feel the way she feels in exams (butterflies 😆) if she finds a decorated room, if she knows he doesn't love and she doesn't love him and they both know everything, and they are just friends why would she bother about the room, friends are supposed to share a very comfortable equation na!! 😉 Has she ever watched films?!, Gone to school/university, talked to friends (girls), then she can't be naive to the point of not knowing that this man affects her! why would she keep looking at him, check him out! Anyways we know Cvs want to take things slowly otherwise how will we enjoy the love story so I'm ok with it, but it's kind of obvious, even if she doesn't call what she feels for him love, but she herself must know that it's not friendship, she LIKES HIM, this much she should be knowing logically!
Avni and Neil both are similar in accepting the fact that they are in love with each other. Neil had fallen for her before so yea he had now realised but Avni started feeling for him little late so she is so hesitated😆Definitely she knows Neil affects her but she is like no no we r only friends, nothing more than that

Hats off to ACP khanna who feels responsibility towards society and innocents, this shows as I said before that this is more than a job to him. A kind hearted man with principles and values who is so dedicated in his job which allows him to help people, give them justice and clean the society of dangerous criminals.
Seriously i am so proud of this munda for being an ideal man for every girl. Not only for girls he is an ideal man from every angle. Any parent will be proud to have a son like him. This gentleman has every quality which a man should have. I am so glad Cvs give us an educated human being not educated arrogant devil. 😆


Waise Neil knew she was hiding something (cop skills at dispaly, very perceptive! hala ki Avni herself is so obvious in her behaviour 😆) but he didn't try to find out, he just told her that she already said thank you once and she doesn't need to repeat it

So madam is so unable of saying thank you that she decided to write a little to him 😆 now if to say thank you she shows so much nervousness, the day she decides to tell him I love you, I can't imagine the tension she will be going through lool and I'm sure she will just wait for him to make the first step I doubt she would confess first unless something really impactful happens, being on the verge of losing him as in his life being in danger!
Yea even i don't think she will confess before him. Like in every show a guy takes one step forward and usually girls confess their love when they are crying for that person i really don't want it in NK but i think high expectations often lead to dissapointments. But yea i can imagine many things lol like in singham the heroine suddenly said i love you seriously i want Avni to say this in front of everyone and yea without hesitation well i know that's so high! But yes what if AvNeil teases each other as they have confessed but they actualy hadn't but can sense this thing. Lol i am saying too much!!😆
How can Rhea hear clearly what's being said just relying on that microphone!!

Neil is a mature man, he is not insecure unless he has reasons to be, he sees how much dedicated is his wife in pleasing his family, why would a woman put so much efforts in pleasing his family even if it is to pay back their favours if she has feelings towards another man!! and logically till when she will keep lying to them, at some point of time, they might get to know the truth and their heartbreak will be much more painful.
Yes in office scene he himself said that she is here wants to remend her realtions with her laws and there he was thinking bad and he even asked himself that kahi main waqai main is shaadi ko torna ni chahta something like that so yes he has realised her feelings that's why he always become childishly romantic when he is with her if he thinks she loves Ali so he definitely would keep a distance with her but this is not the thing here.

In the OLVs this question will be raised, I don't know how it will play exactly whether it will be Avni's dream (Neil questionning her about till when they will keep pretending and giving ideas to bebe..) or it might be Neil who wants answers, maybe he wants to generate a reaction from Avni, to know where he stands in her life or to make her face her feelings. I wish they show that he knows she might have something towards him, after all he analyzes things a lot so why not Avni's feelings, he knows she likes him I mean physically, I hope so, he just needs to think about few instances and he will find the answer 😆 so he needs to know about the rest as in her feelings (emotionally) for him which means the real deal, we know that what would matter to him is her love!
Yea whether it will be the Neil to get the answers from her but i don't think this is the best idea to get answer, it will be most probably Avni dream as she dream a lot, and irony every dream is about Neil so yea i will go for the dream option. This will be the better because definitely after it she has to anwer herself first that why she is here why she don't want to go.

Why Ali doesn't ask himself why Rhea is so adamant on making him believe that Avni doesn't love Neil and that he has a chance with her, does he really consider her as a friend, maybe yes, it seems no one doubts her now including AvNeil!
Right objection you have, it seems like Ali has forgetten the past bitterness, he had forgetten Riya's manipulation even he got to know about the phone call manipulation but now he is okay with it! Wow! And AvNeil think she is now redeemed. 🤢


So Avni felt so hurt to know Neil didn't come to honeymoon for her , and she clealy stated that he was playing with her feelings. So let me understand Avni baby, if you are doing it as a dikava only, then what's your problem, whether he works, sleeps or does anything else, what's the problem, bebe and the family know you went to honeymoon to coorg, you are in the hotel as a proof to them, so what?! And if you really want a relationship with him then why you keep denying 😆 Poor soul, she is confused! As I said she says something but her feelings and reactions are something else, I guess that what makes it fun for viewers, though any other normal person would know they feel something even if they don't call it love but they would definitely know it's nome than friendship!
Here we saw the angry bird avatar. The way she raised her eyebrows oh my God 😆 she was like ab dekh bachu tujhe kon bachata hai mujh sey, all the rime i was laughing. Her haq jatay-ing was so funny but yea she should know now that she is in love with him. It's so funny in soaps like they can't realise they love somebody else until the person who they loves are in the danger of death😆

Madam is so pissed off to the point she decides to play a prank on him and get back at him, she decides to scare the hell out of him and she succeeded but he is no less he pulls her with him to the pool, mind you, they fell together, he didn't push her, he knows she doesn't know how to swim, he will teach her the lesson but in a soft way without any takleef and thus we get the romantic pool scene, do I need to say anything about it, they get lost in each other as usual 😆 She sneezes at him and breaks the charm the way she did when he saved her the first time they met by spitting water on him, he doesn't get angry while anyone can feel disgusted, he is very indulgent with her! 😳
Swimming pool was so goood, Neil was showing his naughty side to her, and they both forgot that they are not in their room they are at public place chalo no problem all girls there will be jealoused of Avni.😛About sneezing scene i was like no yaar there can be the better idea to break their eye lock but sneezing yuckk. Neil is so gentleman that he bear all the germs😆
There are many details about the scene even before they fall in the swimming pool, I see a sort of flirting even if it was masti!

Even Ali noticed their chemistry and his weak heart couldn't stand to see more, poor thing, he was ready to leave being a complete sport but that Rhea is adamant on breaking his heart!
No comments for them but this girl is mental🤢

The scene where he feeds her the soup was nice, she notices how much he takes care of her and her heart melts, she was lost in him, I mean how can she resist such tenderness coupled to a handsome face! And he notices that she was looking at him (hala ki he was doing the same as well) 😆(benchmark of indian shows (eyelocks) but at the end it was shown that she was lost in him that she couldn't see he was handing the spoon towards her!
She can haq jatay-ing only she can feel all comfortableness with him but she can't feel any tension 😆 i don't know when we will see a realisation track😆

Here the editor disappointed us again, in the OLV, it was shown that Neil wipes the drops of the soup from her shin but it was edited in the episode, yaar why would you show these drops if you want show he did it. I mean she could have as well took the soup herself without him feeding her, he could have just brought it and handed it to her, she is no child, but since he started feeding her like a baby then wiping her shin was also his responsibility 😆 (feeding the heroine while her hands are complety functional, another cliche in hindi shows)
I think Cvs maintain the chart that this day we will show this and that day we will show that so when time exceed they cut some scenes *faltu assumption*
Well come to the part, man! Why every hindi soaps give so sweet gestures of romance. They make us expect the same in real life😆

Lo the edited part





Last scene was Rhea trying to convince Ali to propose Avni, the guy was going to tell Neil first which is ethically good as no matter what, Avni is a married woman, but Rhea obviously wants to create a misunderstanding between AvNeil so she wants Ali to propose Avni first! Glad we know the plan will backfire, credit ges to OLVs 😆
I never get the fact that why Riya is behind AvNeil, seriously why? She wants revenge from Avni or she wants to be Mrs. Neil🤢 just because he is rich! Why the hell she is disturbing them? It's like only Neil Khanna is alive in this world who's rich. God please!! I want to see some other rich man entry in the show jis pey Riya lattoo hojaye i don't care for rest but seriously she will be diverted from AvNeil. And i even don't get the fact that is Ali dumb or blind or deaf. Can't he see their chemistry. But no he don't want any chance to be missed. Arghh!

I was thinking of not watching the OLVs to keep the surprise element intact but since they keep editing some scenes out, I guess OLVs help to get a better picture!


I talk a lot (I type a lot), long essays and I still find that I missed many things, that happens when there are many good scenes of AvNeil in the episode😆
I like your talk then, keep typing like this always😳
P.S : Ignore typos

Hello i watched the episode so late, i watched it yesterday night, so yea commenting late too😆
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Posted: 8 years ago
Wow you guys are awesome. I really loved reading all posts. My God i haven't eaten my breakfast but this AvNeil thing is making me pagal. Wow so yea Mandy joined you guys now, I am not saying us as i hardly get the chance to participate here, lol i missed those days where i was looking forward for the quality discussion but end up with chit chat only and nowadays i am hell busy so can't write so big posts which will have my all feelings but i can enjoy reading your guys post :)
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: lol_rofl

Wow you guys are awesome. I really loved reading all posts. My God i haven't eaten my breakfast but this AvNeil thing is making me pagal. Wow so yea Mandy joined you guys now, I am not saying us as i hardly get the chance to participate here, lol i missed those days where i was looking forward for the quality discussion but end up with chit chat only and nowadays i am hell busy so can't write so big posts which will have my all feelings but i can enjoy reading your guys post :)




You haven't eaten your breakfast😆 while we spent very long hours discussing AvNeil, the whole weekend went to AvNeil 😆

Feel free to post whenever you have time, as I said to Mandy, real life comes first we all understand that 😊
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Posted: 8 years ago
Hey the wonderful writers out there... So I m here.. couldn't go through all the posts, but would be finishing soon... Since I m not at all good in writing, I would mostly be reading and enjoying your creativity here... Thanks to all of you... you guys are awesome... 👍🏼 and specially Nej, thanks for enlightening me about the thread...
Btw you can call me Reesh... 😳
Edited by reeeh - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago


Thank for your kind words; glad you liked my analysis of Neil's character!

I really enjoyed Ali and Neil's interactions at the beginning of the leap; the two actors have great chemistry on-screen. For this reason, I think I'm getting slightly impatient and looking forward to the two reconnecting! But I agree with every point you have made. Avni has been a huge part of Ali's life; accepting that Avni is in love with someone else will be a major turning point in Ali's character.

We are indeed both suckers for meaningful intensity! I hope for lengthy discussions between Avni and Neil in which he talks about his past openly, and Avni listens and understands. It's not about replacing Juhi, it's about making her own place in his heart. And with respect to the Case 123 track, well I've already started imagining different scenarios in my head! I really hope Avni chooses to surrender, rather than try to hide the matter for Neil to find out for himself. This storyline will serve to deepen their love and understanding for one another. Can't wait!
Edited by Azalea. - 8 years ago
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Thank you for replying!

Ali is completely oblivious to Avni's feelings toward Neil. On top of this, Riya is leaving no stone unturned to convince him that Avni and Neil are both trapped in a loveless marriage. I've read a lot of hate towards Ali's character on various social media platforms, which is rather disheartening. What can he do if he is in love with Avni? I'm looking forward to seeing how this character shapes up. I want to see how he breaks down upon realising that Avni can never be his, and how he comes to accept this, ultimately picking himself up and moving on in his life.

The divorce papers will act as a catalyst to bring the leads together. I want a poignant scene between the two where he tells Avni she is free to leave and live her life the way she pleases. Only for Avni to realise that her happiness lies in her being with our hero!

But before all this, I'm sure the lovely Shweta will get her hands on the papers perhaps during the anniversary party. More nefarious looks being exchanged between the Riya and Shweta plus late night plotting; can't wait! 😆
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