An Unlikely Transformation - Page 4

Originally posted by: reeyacute

Veer is coming out clean in front of Bani now....showing his true self is not an easy job but he did.

Veer noticed Bani was not shocked...

Later on when he comes to know about Bani being a naagin n her connivance with Jay....

He will link things together and feel that he was betrayed

Bani will so learn dhabewale ki sacchai.....

After this even if Bani runs after veer...he might now be interested

Veer being veer isn't going to let her go totally!😆 They will fight, hate, swear, throw daggers at each othe like anything but letting go wouldn't happen, I feel!

Originally posted by: J2lover

yepp! Now am good!😆 Bhadaas nikal gyi!😆 True that! they usually doesn't show Female leads to be this flawed! I think you are right, expectations shouldn't be that she should always behave correctly! It actually makes things boring!😆 Actually, lowkey, I would have loved if she would have planned this alone!😎 Uske aur veer ke beech nipat jaata! Why does dhaabewaala has to come into picture? Woh thoda frustating hai!😛

But yeah, this is the last blow for bani now! Now, the hatred quotient will almost go away hopefully! Sitting back and relaxing seems a good way to now!😆 Isslye mei, jyada hindi shows dekhti nai! Inconsistency mei dimaag ka dahi ho jaata hai!😆

Problem kya hai na, shows bhi stereotype hi karte hai. Heroine ko aisa hona chahiye, hero ko aisa. Jabki in reality showing that is extreme because we are all grey. So Bani and Veeranshu are very real characters, whose darkness is elevated by their supernatural identities. Yahaan negative Naagin ki zarurat kam mehsoos hoti hai kyunki Bani khud hi apni life ki villain hai, to dusre aake kya bigaad lenge.🤣

Dono ka rishta barabari ka, takkar ka hai, isiliye dono ek dusre ko balance out bhi kar dete hai. Abhi Bani ke breakdown ki baari hai, isiliye Veeranshu ko itna ucha uthaya hai taaki jab Bani gire to woh usko sambhal sake. Phir later on aayegi Veeranshu ki baari jab baat family ki aayegi, tab woh girega to Bani sambhal legi. Ye unka rishta hai, ajeeb aur tedha. Shakura ke language me bolu to, "Kathin dagar hai panghat ki, kamli sambhli nahi to phisal jaayegi." Unko phisal ke sambhalne do, tum sirf chill karo aur enjoy karo.😎

Originally posted by: AliChase

This is the whole point. Bani's conflict is harsh. There is someone who loves you so intensely that you can't ignore it and on the other hand there is this person who you think is your soulmate. She can't think clearly in this conflict. She knows her duties as Adi-Naagin and swears that she will try to kill Veer before they enter that trap. Yet, she also doesn't want to lose Jay. If she doesn't say yes then it seemed to her that he'll leave right then and there.

Ab imagine, your soulmate is in front of you and he makes comments that makes it look like you had abandoned him for the sake of another man. Like janam janam ke saathi ko chod diya and all. After all, Bani believes that Jay is her soulmate. Even if she stands up for herself when Jay tries to insult her, in the end she still has feelings for him.

Veer is so highly dominant in his feelings that it could come to the point of overwhelming. She doesn't know what to do with it. Ek taraf Veer ka intense pyaar and other side uska belief that Jay aur woh janam Janmantar ke saathi hai. She can deny it but Veer ka pyar is so dominant ki she can't ignore it and focus on Jay and her clearly.

I like the flaw in her. If a character doesn't have a flaw, they wouldn't seem real. Also, Bani doesn't actually want to go that far. Admittedly, she agrees to it under peer pressure.

Bani ko kisine Veer ki tarah pyaar nahi kiya hai. She had no idea how to deal with someone who is so intense. It sort of scares her ki kya kare woh.

In Bani's mind "Agar mere soulmate ko yeh yakeen nahi hai ki main Veer se pyaar nahi karti toh kaise hoga?" Two people she interacts with the most is Veer and Meera di after Jay. Both of them think ki kahin na kahin Bani ko actually Veer se pyaar hai. Abh agar jay bhi yahi kehta rahe toh who will believe her.

Also, warning, don't get offended at the kind of example I am going to give you.

Imagine a woman living with her husband. The husband is not really nice to her but the two have been married for a long time and have to live together. She comes across another man who gives her the kind of love she's never known. At first, it would seem to her that she is cheating on her husband if she is even trying to stand in the other man's presence. Still, she would be inclined towards that intense love because somewhere she craves love from her husband which he doesn't give. She will keep trying to find ways to achieve that kind of love from her husband but he won't return it. She would think that he is trying to give her what she wants but in reality he isn't really trying.

This is same in Bani's case. Only difference is that the 'other man' in Bani's story is her Veer and the 'husband' is Jay.

I agree to all your points!👍🏼 But, makers never established jay-bani's romantic relationship as powerful as veer-bani! If they had established jay-bani first and then they would have shown veer entering her life and the rest as it happens in the show, bani's conflict was justifiable!

I feel in the current scenario, bani's conflict is more as Aadi-Naagin and less as a lover! She just feels, how can she fall for an eagle? This has never ever happened in her entire naagvansh! So, the thought of setting a wrong example and going against her clan's rules, is causing her immense turmoil!

Yes, jay's angle is also prominent but they have never cleared if bani really loves jay that passionately! She has in fact addressed him as a 'friend' in an episode recently! So, jay's dilemma comes secondary probably!

But they can show this as a reason for conflict in future too, who knows!😆

Originally posted by: libran90

Problem kya hai na, shows bhi stereotype hi karte hai. Heroine ko aisa hona chahiye, hero ko aisa. Jabki in reality showing that is extreme because we are all grey. So Bani and Veeranshu are very real characters, whose darkness is elevated by their supernatural identities. Yahaan negative Naagin ki zarurat kam mehsoos hoti hai kyunki Bani khud hi apni life ki villain hai, to dusre aake kya bigaad lenge.🤣

Good in a way, wahi raita failaati bhi hai aur sametti bhi hai!😆

Par bani ko bhi grey dikhaate toh bhi chalta!

actually I want ki bani shaatir plans baanye for veeranshu! But plans ingenious ho, back-stabbing types nai! But dilli durr nai hai, veer bhi kuch khaas achhai ki murat hai nai, sanak gya uska toh bss, even he's capable of doing something like this! Am 100% confident!

Dono ka rishta barabari ka, takkar ka hai, isiliye dono ek dusre ko balance out bhi kar dete hai. Abhi Bani ke breakdown ki baari hai, isiliye Veeranshu ko itna ucha uthaya hai taaki jab Bani gire to woh usko sambhal sake. Phir later on aayegi Veeranshu ki baari jab baat family ki aayegi, tab woh girega to Bani sambhal legi. Ye unka rishta hai, ajeeb aur tedha. Shakura ke language me bolu to, "Kathin dagar hai panghat ki, kamli sambhli nahi to phisal jaayegi." Unko phisal ke sambhalne do, tum sirf chill karo aur enjoy karo.😎

Also Veer has right said at first night of marriage in the pool, 'Aag ka dariya hai, doob ke jaana hai!'😆

Originally posted by: J2lover

Good in a way, wahi raita failaati bhi hai aur sametti bhi hai!

Par bani ko bhi grey dikhaate toh bhi chalta!

actually I want ki bani shaatir plans baanye for veeranshu! But plans ingenious ho, back-stabbing types nai! But dilli durr nai hai, veer bhi kuch khaas achhai ki murat hai nai, sanak gya uska toh bss, even he's capable of doing something like this! Am 100% confident!

Behen, kshaatir plans banane ke liye, Bani ke dimaag ka zinda hona zaruri hai. Aur woh abhi hona baaki hai.

Also Veer has right said at first night of marriage in the pool, 'Aag ka dariya hai, doob ke jaana hai!'

Kiske liye aag ka dariya hai, pata nahi.😆

Originally posted by: libran90

Kiske liye aag ka dariya hai, pata nahi.

For us viewers, aur kon!

Originally posted by: J2lover

Yesterday's episode took me through a gamut of emotions but provoked only one kind of feeling, 'Disappointment'

As much as I loved how beautifully they are taking the romantic story arc forward,

I felt the makers are digressing from the core storyline.

As far as I know, naagin 5 is a love-revenge saga. It kick started on the classic background of, 'Hero, heroine and Villain'.

Take 1: The Villain, 'Aakesh' killed the hero, 'Hriday' and so the 'heroine' took revenge by killing the, 'Villain'.

Take 2: All the three are reincarnated. The Heroine wanted to reunite with her soulmate, 'Hriday'. But destiny played its foul play and she ended up being, 'Aakesh' consort.

Now, it was completely fair till the time, Bani was planning with jay to INSTIGATE Veer. She wanted an open battle with him and complete her so called alleged revenge.

But what they have started from yesterday isn't revenge anymore. Its out n out betrayal. Bani always claimed that she wants to fight with veer saamne se! She was always of the principal, 'I would never attack Veeranshu in a back-stabbing way', it would always be on his face! What happened to her ethics yesterday then?

She was literally planning to kill veer by treachery! She was only supposed to set up the fight! Fighting it or not, is as much Veer's choice as hers!

Yesterday she came across as a evil woman who was scheming with her ex-lover to kill her husband in the worst way possible.

If she's so desperate to kill him, why not just reveal her naagin form and fight the ultimate battle, right then n there! He had anyways shown his true form to her!

Another thing, Veer falling in love with her, isn't her fault, I get that. But now when she can see, how much deeply he has started to fall for her, agreeing to jay's plan itself was a huge mistake from her side! I had expected her to say that laying a trap to INSTIGATE veer and Laying a trap to kill him are two extremely different things!

How is trapping someone to walk into land-mines be seemingly ethical? Bani is outrightly deceiving Veer, on an enemy level! This is the kind of enemy she wanted to be?

Isse peeche se vaar krna hi khete hai na?!

Veer apni burai gale mei leke ghumta hai, but bani is masking her devils under that pretty face of hers! I really found that disturbing.

I found her no different than jay yesterday!

Maybe she did it in peer pressure, but that doesn't justify her act.

This is the inconsistency in her character writing I always find. The last time she gave back to jay when he told her to kill off veer as soon as possible, was amazing! And that was like, 1 day back! Now suddenly she's ready to kill him off in the most meanest way possible?!

Its fine if she cannot reciprocate his feelings but atleast don't steep down to the level to plan to kill him, when he was at his vulnerable. Baring out every ounce of his soul infront of her.

'I would never hurt you', 'I wouldn't let any harm even touch you', 'Mein tumhe jee jaan se chahata hu'.

Veer doesn't get tired of expressing his love even when the timer is ticking on his head! Her revenge would have been valid if veer was equally hating her! Then I would have called the fight of equals! He's so emotionally invested in her now, it comes across borderline betrayal now from bani's side! Itna invest hone dena hi kyu hai, jab maarna hi hai usse!

I don't want bani's regret when the truth comes to light, I want her redemption for atleast this one act.

I get it, everyone's hidden demons come to light at some point in the worst way possible and bani's came yesterday, I feel. We could see her inner turmoil yesterday regarding how she felt for Veer,but her cold behaviour towards him, even after reaching the forest, made me uncomfortable. I was hoping she would refrain from going ahead. But on the contrary she was searching for that damn tree, from where Veer's death route starts!

I wasn't even able to enjoy the hug properly, since it wasn't 100% genuine from bani's side!😭

PS: I loved how beautifully they redeemed Veer's past life sins!❤️

Aakesh killed hriday in last birth, veer saved jay in this birth. Cause and effect both are fulfilled now.

PSS: This isn't a hate post on bani, alright!😆 The fact that she would never behave this unethically, made me more disturb about her! Woh hota hai na, safed kapde pe ek bhi daag, prominently dikh jaata hai!

Rest of the episode was, as we all unanimously feel,

IT WAS MAGIC!❤️ Words would fall short!❤️

Originally posted by: J2lover

For us viewers, aur kon!

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Originally posted by: forest_foliage

Couldn't agree more. Bani deserves to regret big time but don't think she will be able to redeem herself, Veer is way too lenient to be cold towards her or make her suffer ! She wants to kill Veer for no reason, and she is secretly meeting the person her husband despises the most. Veer would be very hurt that she planned along with Jai to kill him. No matter what, she still has the intention of taking away his life - I don't know how would Bani come back from this. It is indeed disappointing that Bani had to learn that Veer saved her life in order to change her feelings for him, and for so long she didn't see anything good in her husband to terminate every single thought of killing him.

@Red: This! This is exactly what I felt too! Why was still finding it a need to kill him?!

But then, as discussed, many factors are contributing! Her conflict as Aadi-nagin Vs the lover that she's slowly becoming, she convincing herself that she's still true to her clan and duty! She running away from the slightest thought of even having a bit of a soft spot for Veer! She proving it to jay that she doesn't care about veer, etc. Etc.!

But now, she would completely vanquish this thought! Hopefully!😳

Originally posted by: deepikagupta9

Let me tell they changed veer track , I will request u kindly watch d episode where veer saved bani from bomb blast where naina was kidnapped . Veer very clearly said he never saved anyone before bani now they bring it this that he saved bani & jay.

When Jay informed her about his plan first thing came from her mouth was he has to attack us & I m sorry Jay don't have capability to convince bani , went veer was kidnapped & bani saw jay in disguise of veer with shakura , jay failed to convince bani that he was veer , to abhi kaise karega .

If bani was so unethical then veer would had died in nagfani track , bani kehti bahut kuch hai karti kuch bhi nhi. I guess bani had failed Jay's plan , veer is very much safe & healthy , koi blast nhi hua .

Lord shiv instructed naageshwari not to attack cheel before cheel attack her . She keep this in her mind & always wait for it . She dint attack teer 2 till he dint attack first .

More than veer naag naagin ki safety is important for her .

In satyug her one mistake resulted into massive destruction of her clan & she ended up getting cursed , do u really think she will forgot this & again do d same mistake & end up losing her position & powers . Jai is complete bewkoof , she is not definately she would had thought of a way to save naag naagin , even she will only save veer to.

Makers never said bani is ideal or mahaan character . Infact naagins r not so mahaan. Akesh betrayed her trust she is using d same psychology thou her own ethics comes in her way.

I guess we should give bani a break & stop being so judgemental towards her coz no way she can't be anteryami jisse sabka mann read karna aata hai , infact veer is not that intelligent , bani to abhi jay se mili hai , veer is living with his cheel gang for 27 yrs still he dont know his family is doing illegal business even noor , bani , jai & whole city knows but veer dont know , why kaunsi duniya main rehta hai vo . D house in which he lives in basement a person is caged & he don't know & he had visited d basement to.

Ye track N3 kr behir track se inspired hai bani ne kuch nhi kiya veer ko , bela beated maahir in disguise & was about to kill an unconsious maahir but he started chanting bela's name in his unconsciousness & bela drop d idea to kill him that time , jay ne bani ko earrings diye the or instruct kar raha tha , vish was instructing bela through bluetooth to kill maahir

## I m sorry for my rude behaviour but really pissed off with partiality towards bani in d forum , it's look like bani is a villain of this season

Well dear no one hate bani. We just love veer little more than bani. We are emotionally connected more with veer because makers never show proper bani’s emotions. Whenever bani seems emotional I feel disconnected from her don’t know why.

Actually both have a fault. No one is perfect. Both are imperfect & galtiyon ki dukan 😆that’s why both are perfect for each other.

I love bani’s attitude. She is so bindaas & cool & completely different from all ITV FL & that’s make her so special from other characters. She is my fav naagin in naagin series. She is so strong & intelligent though but don’t know she is not using her brain nowadays that’s why few are pissed off from her but that’s doesn’t mean we hate bani.