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Posted: 5 years ago
#11

Originally posted by: J2lover

Yesterday's episode took me through a gamut of emotions but provoked only one kind of feeling, 'Disappointment'

As much as I loved how beautifully they are taking the romantic story arc forward,

I felt the makers are digressing from the core storyline.

As far as I know, naagin 5 is a love-revenge saga. It kick started on the classic background of, 'Hero, heroine and Villain'.

Take 1: The Villain, 'Aakesh' killed the hero, 'Hriday' and so the 'heroine' took revenge by killing the, 'Villain'.

Take 2: All the three are reincarnated. The Heroine wanted to reunite with her soulmate, 'Hriday'. But destiny played its foul play and she ended up being, 'Aakesh' consort.

Now, it was completely fair till the time, Bani was planning with jay to INSTIGATE Veer. She wanted an open battle with him and complete her so called alleged revenge.

But what they have started from yesterday isn't revenge anymore. Its out n out betrayal. Bani always claimed that she wants to fight with veer saamne se! She was always of the principal, 'I would never attack Veeranshu in a back-stabbing way', it would always be on his face! What happened to her ethics yesterday then?

She was literally planning to kill veer by treachery! She was only supposed to set up the fight! Fighting it or not, is as much Veer's choice as hers!

Yesterday she came across as a evil woman who was scheming with her ex-lover to kill her husband in the worst way possible.

If she's so desperate to kill him, why not just reveal her naagin form and fight the ultimate battle, right then n there! He had anyways shown his true form to her!

Another thing, Veer falling in love with her, isn't her fault, I get that. But now when she can see, how much deeply he has started to fall for her, agreeing to jay's plan itself was a huge mistake from her side! I had expected her to say that laying a trap to INSTIGATE veer and Laying a trap to kill him are two extremely different things!

How is trapping someone to walk into land-mines be seemingly ethical? Bani is outrightly deceiving Veer, on an enemy level! This is the kind of enemy she wanted to be?

Isse peeche se vaar krna hi khete hai na?!

Veer apni burai gale mei leke ghumta hai, but bani is masking her devils under that pretty face of hers! I really found that disturbing.

I found her no different than jay yesterday!

Maybe she did it in peer pressure, but that doesn't justify her act.

This is the inconsistency in her character writing I always find. The last time she gave back to jay when he told her to kill off veer as soon as possible, was amazing! And that was like, 1 day back! Now suddenly she's ready to kill him off in the most meanest way possible?!

Its fine if she cannot reciprocate his feelings but atleast don't steep down to the level to plan to kill him, when he was at his vulnerable. Baring out every ounce of his soul infront of her.

'I would never hurt you', 'I wouldn't let any harm even touch you', 'Mein tumhe jee jaan se chahata hu'.

Veer doesn't get tired of expressing his love even when the timer is ticking on his head! Her revenge would have been valid if veer was equally hating her! Then I would have called the fight of equals! He's so emotionally invested in her now, it comes across borderline betrayal now from bani's side! Itna invest hone dena hi kyu hai, jab maarna hi hai usse!

I don't want bani's regret when the truth comes to light, I want her redemption for atleast this one act.

I get it, everyone's hidden demons come to light at some point in the worst way possible and bani's came yesterday, I feel. We could see her inner turmoil yesterday regarding how she felt for Veer,but her cold behaviour towards him, even after reaching the forest, made me uncomfortable. I was hoping she would refrain from going ahead. But on the contrary she was searching for that damn tree, from where Veer's death route starts!

I wasn't even able to enjoy the hug properly, since it wasn't 100% genuine from bani's side!😭


PS: I loved how beautifully they redeemed Veer's past life sins!❤️

Aakesh killed hriday in last birth, veer saved jay in this birth. Cause and effect both are fulfilled now.


PSS: This isn't a hate post on bani, alright!😆 The fact that she would never behave this unethically, made me more disturb about her! Woh hota hai na, safed kapde pe ek bhi daag, prominently dikh jaata hai!


Rest of the episode was, as we all unanimously feel,

IT WAS MAGIC!❤️ Words would fall short!❤️



Let me tell they changed veer track , I will request u kindly watch d episode where veer saved bani from bomb blast where naina was kidnapped . Veer very clearly said he never saved anyone before bani now they bring it this that he saved bani & jay.


When Jay informed her about his plan first thing came from her mouth was he has to attack us & I m sorry Jay don't have capability to convince bani , went veer was kidnapped & bani saw jay in disguise of veer with shakura , jay failed to convince bani that he was veer , to abhi kaise karega .


If bani was so unethical then veer would had died in nagfani track , bani kehti bahut kuch hai karti kuch bhi nhi. I guess bani had failed Jay's plan , veer is very much safe & healthy , koi blast nhi hua .


Lord shiv instructed naageshwari not to attack cheel before cheel attack her . She keep this in her mind & always wait for it . She dint attack teer 2 till he dint attack first .


More than veer naag naagin ki safety is important for her .


In satyug her one mistake resulted into massive destruction of her clan & she ended up getting cursed , do u really think she will forgot this & again do d same mistake & end up losing her position & powers . Jai is complete bewkoof , she is not definately she would had thought of a way to save naag naagin , even she will only save veer to.


Makers never said bani is ideal or mahaan character . Infact naagins r not so mahaan. Akesh betrayed her trust she is using d same psychology thou her own ethics comes in her way.


I guess we should give bani a break & stop being so judgemental towards her coz no way she can't be anteryami jisse sabka mann read karna aata hai , infact veer is not that intelligent , bani to abhi jay se mili hai , veer is living with his cheel gang for 27 yrs still he dont know his family is doing illegal business even noor , bani , jai & whole city knows but veer dont know , why kaunsi duniya main rehta hai vo . D house in which he lives in basement a person is caged & he don't know & he had visited d basement to.



Ye track N3 kr behir track se inspired hai bani ne kuch nhi kiya veer ko , bela beated maahir in disguise & was about to kill an unconsious maahir but he started chanting bela's name in his unconsciousness & bela drop d idea to kill him that time , jay ne bani ko earrings diye the or instruct kar raha tha , vish was instructing bela through bluetooth to kill maahir


## I m sorry for my rude behaviour but really pissed off with partiality towards bani in d forum , it's look like bani is a villain of this season

Edited by deepikagupta9 - 5 years ago
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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: libran90

Sweety, if I know Bani at all na, then she will push Veeranshu out of the way and herself step on that landmine. Her moral compass is too strong for this. I can even visualize Bani tossing those earrings away 😆and stepping onto that landmine, and asking Veeranshu to leave. And she hardly ever listens to Jai. I know it was frustrating to see this, but in her bid to prove to herself that she is still inclined to take revenge, she did this, but it won't happen period. Infact, mere dimaag me to woh scene chal raha hai, where she confesses that she is that child whom he had saved back then, and maybe she says she doesn't hate him but doesn't love him either. Probably also says that she brought him here to hurt him so she could prove that she doesn't love him, blah blah. Aisa hi kuch hoga mere hisaab se, and Veeranshu usse phir bachayega, and Jai ke plan ki "oh my mata" ho jaani hai, phir se.🤣Isiliye Navratri me popati Sardar banke aaya woh.🤣

I know, at the end moment she would! But that's the thing na! Bani aisi kyu hai?🤣 Maarna hai ya nai, she still isn't able to decide after so long?😆 Yeah! I know, she's morally strong, but I hope even the though to kill veer now diminishes from her mind completely! Hopefully, this was the last!

I was super pissed at her in that forest scene! He was putting his heart and soul and telling her about his most intimate feelings, and here she was coughing, clearing her throat,using all sorts of sign languages and what not to signal jay! I was like, ' Why can't she focus on her beautiful hubby for a second at least?'🤔

Glad at the end she did!

Yeah, I think she would tel;l him about her childhood! Bass woh bhadde se earrings nikaal feke! Jay was shamefully listening to veer's sincere expression of love which was only meant for bani!🤢

It would really end up as you said, bani would push veer and stand on those land mines!😆 She's such a confused soul yrr! I don't know, when I would be able to root for her!😆

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Posted: 5 years ago
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I have no idea what is up with Bani? The writers are messing big time. I did not like the fact that she said yes to Jay's plan uske upar Woh naag lok waali smart earrings pehenke Jay ki baatein sunn rahi thhi, usko saari baatein sunne de rahi thhi.

Mujhe toh yehi samajh mein nahi aa raha ke why does she hate Veer so much and so blindly? He has been nothing but kind and caring towards her. Even when she realized that she is married. She does not respect the marriage, she even does not respect Veer as a person.

Why does she keep saying ke woh dushman hai? Just because he is cheel? Then she could have just revealed herself and fought with him. You said correctly, isse peeth pe chhura ghopna kehte hai.

I guess the makers tried to show the contradiction between what is truth and what Bani believes. Ke Veer ne uski jaan bachaai thhi lekin woh wahi par usko maarne le jaa rahi hai. I will say again there are severe problems on the execution part.

More than being about if she can do something unethical or not. It's about her confusion. Pal mein tola pal mein masha hoti hai.What does she want? Does she realize what mess she is getting herself into? She keeps saying he does not love him. We know that she does not hate him like the way she keeps chanting. It was not her plan to take him to that jungle, it was Jay's plan. Why does she agree to him without having her own reasons...

Okay they are supposed to be the romantic leads but if she wants to hate him and kill him right now in the story, I can watch that also but it should be her who plans the death trap not Dhaabewala.

Edited by Cinnamon_Kisses - 5 years ago
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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: nainaasharmaa

agreed, i feel like either bani knows jay's truth or the writers wanted to write this just to get jay in her ear and have veer's reveal but they could've shown it some other way. let's hope we get some redeemable qualities next week?

I want to see Bani's limit. Aur kitna neeche jaaegi?

Redemption is going to be so difficult for her.

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: Shirsha90

Bold@ Yes, Bani agreed to Jay's plan because of peer presure. Sometimes, people do certain things because others instigate them to do those things. That's how people commit big mistakes and they regret those mistakes later. Jay was constantly provoking him so she couldn't even get an opportunity to think herself clearly. However, she didn't agree to the plan wholeheartedly. She didn't like how Jay thought about killing many innocent shape-shifting serpents and she said that to him. The greatest and the oldest serpent can never hurt other serpents. As she is leader of serpents she is affectionate towards them. So, ultimately she will not harm Veeranshu and shape-shifting serpents. I think Bani is also attracted to Veeranshu. She cares about him but she is not aware of her feelings. All of her feelings are burried inside her subsconscious mind.

Yep! She's very strongly attracted to Veeranshu! The way she found comfort in his hug for even a split second, it feels she has started desiring him too somewhere deep down in her heart, But the fact that she's a serpent and veer is an eagle would always make her subdue her feelings about Veeranshu!

I am fine with that, she could take all the time in the world if she wants to. I get it, its not easy to make peace with the fact that she, even after being the ultimate serpent queen, is falling for her most wanted nemesis!😆

But the 'killing thoughts' should somehow diminish now, from her mind and after yesterday's revelation, I think it will!❤️

Edited by J2lover - 5 years ago
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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: J2lover

I know, at the end moment she would! But that's the thing na! Bani aisi kyu hai?🤣 Maarna hai ya nai, she still isn't able to decide after so long?😆 Yeah! I know, she's morally strong, but I hope even the though to kill veer now diminishes from her mind completely! Hopefully, this was the last!

I was super pissed at her in that forest scene! He was putting his heart and soul and telling her about his most intimate feelings, and here she was coughing, clearing her throat,using all sorts of sign languages and what not to signal jay! I was like, ' Why can't she focus on her beautiful hubby for a second at least?'🤔

Glad at the end she did!

Yeah, I think she would tel;l him about her childhood! Bass woh bhadde se earrings nikaal feke! Jay was shamefully listening to veer's sincere expression of love which was only meant for bani!🤢

It would really end up as you said, bani would push veer and stand on those land mines!😆 She's such a confused soul yrr! I don't know, when I would be able to root for her!😆

Sweety, sometimes in daily dramas it is hard to root for hero and heroines, to ye to Naagin hai. Aur kisne kaha ki Naagin ko sati savitri hi honi hai, kabhi kabhi "chudail awwal" bhi ho sakti hai na.😆

I know it's hard to root for Bani's character, but I am amazed at the guts to show such a flawed heroine. I mean kudos to the team.👏 Har show me heroine ko mahaan dikhane ka shauk hai, aur hero ko flawed, ya phir dono ko mahaan dikhane ka shauk.

Lekin yaha dono Veeranshu and Bani hi flawed hai. Veeranshu apne pyaar ke aage sab kuch nazarandaaz kar deta hai, and Bani apne nafrat ke aage. Yahaan ye ek aisi heroine ko dikha rahe hai jo galtiya karti hai, who isn't scared to tap into her darkness, who is confused, yet who has ethical and moral standards. Aur hero aisa jo ki tedha hai, dark hai, pagal hai, different hai.

Kaha dekhne ko milta hai aise. Kaise ajeeb log hai dono, isliye ek doosre ke liye bane hai dono. I am irritated with Bani, but I am simply astounded by her and Veeranshu. So I am not too troubled. Bani and Veeranshu ke beech ek ajeeb si honesty hai, jo har baar chamak ke bahar niklati hai. So relax, and have fun na, baby.

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: J2lover

Yep! She's very strongly attracted to Veeranshu! The way she found comfort in his hug for even a split second, it feels she has started desiring him too somewhere deep down in her heart, But the fact that she's a serpent and veer is an eagle would always make her subdue her feelings about Veeranshu!

I am fine with that, she could take all the time in the world if she wants to. I get it, its not easy to make peace with the fact that she, even after being the ultimate serpent queen, is falling for her most wanted nemesis!😆

But the 'killing thoughts' should somehow diminish now, from her mind and after yesterday's revelation, I think it will!❤️

Yes, I also believe her killing thoughts will go away because she came know yesterday that Veer saved her from a plane crash.

Edited by Shirsha90 - 5 years ago
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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: deepikagupta9


Makers never said bani is ideal or mahaan character . Infact naagins r not so mahaan. Akesh betrayed her trust she is using d same psychology thou her own ethics comes in her way.

No qualms regarding that! I personally feel everyone's grey! Even bani is! We have always blamed her inconsistent writing, that makes, rooting for her a bit difficult! They wrote Veeranshu quite consistent, we hoped the female lead should be similar too!


I guess we should give bani a break & stop being so judgemental towards her coz no way she can't be anteryami jisse sabka mann read karna aata hai , infact veer is not that intelligent , bani to abhi jay se mili hai , veer is living with his cheel gang for 27 yrs still he dont know his family is doing illegal business even noor , bani , jai & whole city knows but veer dont know , why kaunsi duniya main rehta hai vo . D house in which he lives in basement a person is caged & he don't know & he had visited d basement to.

Veer is sheerly dumb in that respect, I agree! His sharpness when it comes to such family matters, diminishes totally!


## I m sorry for my rude behaviour but really pissed off with partiality towards bani in d forum , it's look like bani is a villain of this season

Not at all! As I wrote in my post in the end, this one particular scene was just difficult to watch for me personally! There's no partiality dear! Her character is written in such a way that its flawed in some ways! Bani as a character has so much potential! She has been shown brave, powerful, intelligent and smart! The fact that irkes the viewers is her inconsistent writing, that's it! I personally found bani's character very feminist, in a good way!😊

Veer has his own share of flaws too! The ignorance towards his family is purely dumb! We all unanimously agree to that! But the fact that Veer was basically grey gives him bit of a leverage and if am not wrong, all three characters are critiqued here as well! Bani the most, coz of its inconsistent writing! No intention to spread any negativity about bani as a character! She's very much an integral part of N5!❤️


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Posted: 5 years ago
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I agree with u point but I m sorry again

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: libran90

Sweety, sometimes in daily dramas it is hard to root for hero and heroines, to ye to Naagin hai. Aur kisne kaha ki Naagin ko sati savitri hi honi hai, kabhi kabhi "chudail awwal" bhi ho sakti hai na.😆

I know it's hard to root for Bani's character, but I am amazed at the guts to show such a flawed heroine. I mean kudos to the team.👏 Har show me heroine ko mahaan dikhane ka shauk hai, aur hero ko flawed, ya phir dono ko mahaan dikhane ka shauk.

Lekin yaha dono Veeranshu and Bani hi flawed hai. Veeranshu apne pyaar ke aage sab kuch nazarandaaz kar deta hai, and Bani apne nafrat ke aage. Yahaan ye ek aisi heroine ko dikha rahe hai jo galtiya karti hai, who isn't scared to tap into her darkness, who is confused, yet who has ethical and moral standards. Aur hero aisa jo ki tedha hai, dark hai, pagal hai, different hai.

Kaha dekhne ko milta hai aise. Kaise ajeeb log hai dono, isliye ek doosre ke liye bane hai dono. I am irritated with Bani, but I am simply astounded by her and Veeranshu. So I am not too troubled. Bani and Veeranshu ke beech ek ajeeb si honesty hai, jo har baar chamak ke bahar niklati hai. So relax, and have fun na, baby.

100% agree with this. a big thing to note, like you said, is they’re equally flawed. they didn’t promise us a sati savitri female lead and technically none of them have been in previous seasons. the show itself isn’t black or white. it’s always been grey and the female leads have always been greyish and not on one side of the coin. for some reason i think we’re hoping a lot out of bani because of our love for veer but bani is going through her own storm, lets just enjoy the ride 😆

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