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Arunima

@arunima_LUIT

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Posted: 13 years ago

#11

well written ...lovely analysis ..loved reading it👏 @sonali

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Anmol Jain

@intruderfast

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Posted: 13 years ago

#12

Originally posted by: arunima_luvdsky
well written ...lovely analysis ..loved reading it👏 @sonali

tu yahaan aaj sooraj kahaan se nikla aru😛😆😆

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Arunima

@arunima_LUIT

Dazzler

Posted: 13 years ago

#13

Originally posted by: intruderfast

tu yahaan aaj sooraj kahaan se nikla aru😛😆😆

i read the MB forum sometimes 😆... ya i watched some 12-14 epis of MB last night to catch up on missed epis ..thoda boring ho gaya ...i dont think Devki wud able to leave ..something wud happen sure 😉

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koolsadhu1000

@koolsadhu1000

Stunner

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Posted: 13 years ago

#14

Originally posted by: janavii

Might be we share same interest for D's future but not abt BAA I think. Atleast not for the above points u wrote. Lemme answer what I think

IMV/Ishwar : BB held respect for Master and his family . But we don't know when Baa came to know all abt CP and IMV, we don't know. Isn't it? He is in mumbai and baa is in mangrol and may be IMV has said to Baa after everything (After CP's marriage) . Even though if he would have said b4hand and Baa know's everything, what to reason with. It is not a business deal where she can go and say BB , that trust and invest in him, if he fails u can tack back the investment. It's BB's daughter and maybe if BB has respect for Master, he can't let his daughter marry a no-nothing guy.(Even though he is masters son) . We can't blame Baa, while we don't know fully what happened in the past. Isn't it? We don't still know what dirty game Dalli has played against IMV to marry CP, When Baa learnt about IMV's love with CP? We don't know anything and how can we blame Baa in CP and IMV's love matter.

Chaaru : I read in another one of ur posts that even though IMV loved CP, he has been fair to Chaaru and has been a good husband and the distance between (parda) chaaru and IMV were only after he became rich. Then what Baa should slap IMV for? Does Baa knw that there is a parda between IMV and Charu? I don't think she does. And all we know IMV is IMV, he never listens to anybody (not even Baa, U can review in all episodes, he listens to her but does only what he wanted to to do). She sympathized with IMV abt CP Bcoz she knows it can be never healed, bcoz it is the base of IMV's life or his wealth. Love for CP and hatred for BB. And as a mother and the only person who knows abt IMV's past , is she wrong to give him her sympathy. But, even though whenever she sympathized, she always advised to move on. Didn't she?

Devaki : Here in VD's case also, does she know that VD are sleeping in separate beds? No, I don't think so. After S came to Vaibhav Villa also, Baa is confident that nothing will go wrong in VD's relation bcoz of S, bcoz she saw VD in farmhouse, so, she is as innocent as all others. Even we viewers knowing that VD's marriage is a compro marriage and V is seeing only S in D in every scene in the farmhouse and remembering S all the time, we raised our hopes for VD's relation after seeing how he attended D when she got sprain in her leg. Without knowing any of the above things how can Baa slap VV to be responsible . Even when S got the bullet and hospitalized she convinced that she has done only as a friend, didn't she? I don't think Baa has done anything wrong by saying everything about VS to D, As she said yesterday, D heard it all from VV and came to know abt vicky also. The why to hide from her when we know that, without hearing from VV she started investigating about S and VO, after listening would she sit quite. She would go and dig the past. Isn't it better that Baa told everything , at least D can feel good that they were not still trying to keep in dark after she knew half of the truth.

Sabina : When Baa saw her suffering to this day abt his first love being a man, how can she say S to move on in her life. She is a woman and she knows that when a woman loves and knows that the person she loves also loves her even today, how can she move on and how can Baa advise her. S has many friends to give advise and in anyway, she can make whats good for her and whats not (After all she has done her life alone without anybody's advise)S is a matured girl and has seen world unlike D's innocence. Does she need a advise from Baa. No, all she need is a shoulder to cry on. Thats what baa has given, then what wrong in it
I don't see anywhere Baa doing injustice for her family. At every step she tried to keep the peace of VVilla. So, I don't blame Baa in any body's case. She has done what she can do and what she thought was correct for the family

Answering ur underlined points

Baa knows about everybody's the bedroom secrets .

She DID know about V and D 's unconsummated status in bedroom . Charu confided in her the moment she spotted it .

She does know about the Parda in IMV Charu bedroom ...its there for ALL to see .Yesterday she was standing in that very bedroom and those two seperate sections and bed were for all to see .

She even knew about the secret of Sabina's bedroom , that Vicky was someone else's Pati and was still sharing it with her by lying to others .

So u see , Baa knows sab ka bedroom secrets .

When Baa learnt about IMV and CP is unimportant . What is significant is she knew about it BEFORE Ishvar married Charu , that he had an affair with BB' daughter . She also knows Ishvar was kicked out and refused . When she exactly knew has nothing to do with the way she has reacted to her son's insult by BB . She never took offense , she lives in that very paapi son's house like a royal queen but is friendly to BB , who hurt him and was instrumental in destroying CP's whole life . That irks her son . It wud have irked me too , if my mother shook hands with someone who slapped me . If Baa did not want to be enemies with BB due to her age and maturity I can understand , but she cud at least be quiet and indifferent ? Nope , she went with Manhar to live at that very man's charity , in his rental house , uncaring how THAT wud hurt Ishvar . My point is ...Baa is no less .Woh kuch kam nahi . In tapori language , she does unglis and riles Ishvar , and one such latest ungli was encouraging Sabina when Vaibhav was already married , by asking her Kya Tum Vaibhav ke bina reh paogi . It was a foolish and stupid and out of the context question ...one that oh so need not have been asked .

I differ with u when u say she has done all that is correct for the family .

What correct has she done ?

1] Vaibhav's great love story : A one month old love story in which the actress gave him zero encouragement ...neither did it go to physical level nor did she say verbally YES to him at any point .Later his father disapproved and coerced the actress to go and she left . What was the bloody need to go and dig deep and bring that actress to the mandap where the entire press and tamam duniya was there ? Don't affairs and crushes happen and fizzle out ? Son had arranged his marraige with a nice girl had he not ? Did Baa think if BB will get heart attack in mandap as he is conservative Gujju man ? Did she think how much Devki will be humiliated ? Woh kya sabit karna chahti thi ? Instead of being mature and realising that this was strictly IMV's prerogative ...his refusal to accept Sabina on any level as HIS bahu ...and it was between HIM and VAIBHAV alone , why did she poke her nose there ? Even Sabina was reluctant to come , this old lady was doing these Keedas . I don't see her thinking of the entire family as u put it in this case at all . Infact she was out to SHAME the full family .

2} Encouraging Devki to start Chandraprabha Enterprises and stand against IMV ...WHY ???? There was a point when Devki was unsure about the sagacity of her decision , whether in the long run it wud be practically viable , or if it would affect her marraige adversely by creating problems . And she was RIGHT . She was mulling over it when this old lady came and gave her WRONG advice ...she told her , stand against Ishvar , pursue ur dream what not . Did she once think how much chaos wud be created in future if each time Ghar ki Bahu was pitted against Virani Group ? How much press wud publicize it , how much tension there wud be in house ?

By working WITH IMV Devki's self development was not decreasing , he was giving her a powerful position to work by his son's side ...and had she made profits , he wud one day hand over the business to her as she was his bahu . So WHY give that young girl this insensible advice ? Where is Chandraprabha Enterprises today ?It hardly has projects except Sabinas stupid film . Anyways Devki on her own decided to join Vaibhav and work WITH him instead of Against him . But this old lady had ENSURED that there wud be rift between Vaibhav and her by guiding her wrongly . What family ka good did Baa think of by giving Devki this advice ?

3] This Sabina nonsense : Baa shocks all the most HERE . So Vaibhav had an affair , but she herself had seen how V and D were slowly building up a friendship and who knows , had Sabina not popped up , it wud have culiminated into something further . Baa had KNOWN that Devki was in love with Vaibhav , she commented many times to Master . Vaibhav wud eventually come around , thats the way life works . And THATS how she shud advise grandson . Get over it , forget it , lifes too precious to be wasted , u got a fantastic wife , move on . Did we see even ONCE Baa telling this ? No we see her weeping for Sabinas dukh . Who is Sabina ? A past flame , bas ! Why this much sympathy for her , what does Baa know of her , has Sabina fed her or clothed her or what ? Or was this attraction for Sabina simply coz she took a stand AGAINST Ishvar ? On a womanly basis if she felt a twinge of sympathy for Sabina she shud have given her a hug and bid her a warm GOOD BYE and told her not to be foolish and waste her life by remaining unmarried but to really marry and settle down . Did she do this ? Her loyalties r supposed to lie with the bahu of the Virani house ...Devki ...who was excellent to the ENTIRE family as a daughter in law , including HER .

She cannot have it BOTH ways . If she sympathises with sabina she goes AGAINST Devki . Plain and simple .'understanding" Vaibhavs love means END of Vaibhavs marraige . Giving shoulder to Sabina to cry on and telling Devki the truth that Sabina too still loves Vaibhav means DIVORCE from Devkis end and that girl has no family except an old grandfather who may DIE of shock . There r other things that r hundred times more important than stupid sweet and gola sucking and Baa shud of all people have realised that . She shud have firmly stood on Devkis side and NOT allowed her to give up on her marraige and shooed Sabina away . What Baa did was PUSH her hgrandson towards Sabina by influencing Devki subtly . Now whatever horror the family will face or BB will face , did Baa think of it as Master asked ? Nope .

She NEVER thought of family even once . She resents the fact that Ishvar rejected all that she and Master stood for and carved his own niche and holds them in contempt for their so called values that just don't jell in the world HE created . She resents his money and the pride he takes in it . To teach him a lesson and to pull him down , each time she goes against him and creates chaos ...walking out with Manhar and hurting Ishvar [ Manhar cud easily have gone by himself , he is middle aged and grown up . Baa cud verbally give her blessing }, Accepting BB's charity , putting Devki up against him , blessing Sabina like a big mother Teresa instead of staying the hell OUT .

Edited by koolsadhu1000 - 13 years ago

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sonali.19281

@sonali.19281

Sparkler

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Posted: 13 years ago

#15

LMAO... Kools... ka bhadaas.. is always AWESOME😆 cut to cut... no bakwaas..

have been stuck for time.. munira and janavi... on top of Kool's POV I have more to add too.. lets see if i find some time to jot it down this afternoon

paaji: tu agaya.. arey dadi ko bol chup karey.. ab to master bhi pak gaya.. arey both PK and Master are sensible. .they will look towards the general good.. baa is being a 5 yr old.. breaking toys.. just coz they dont fit her ideologies😆 how far is she gonna go in her ideology battle I do not know.. and tbh dont care.. neither does IMV.. she is like those bg music jo bajta hi rahta hain.. constructive kuch toh karti nahi.. khaali bhaashan giri.. she reminds me of our netas.. she is double dholki.. kisi bhi taraf ludakti hain..

Kools I cant agree more.. in the sabina matter she has been wayyy out of line.. behaved like a 5 yr old.. I defo have more to add after I read Janavi, munira and you

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veil_of_roses

@veil_of_roses

Rocker

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Posted: 13 years ago

#16

@sonali n kools agree with u guys...

Wat ideology? breaking relationship? for most ppl who claim sanskar n values are above monry wud agree tht breaking a marriage is againest "ideology" Putting family to shame & killing a person who tey respect is Ideology? There is a saying in gujarati "ghar bali ne tapanu na karay" meaning "U can not bonfire by burning ur house"🤔

I hope baa understands her mistakes...What the heck will she get by uniting vaibhav n sabina? broken wedding of Vaiki...Shame to Viranis...lot of negative publicities...HA/Stroke/death of BB...But main thing ITS AGAINST IMV'S WISH...so watever against IMV is good

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Arunima

@arunima_LUIT

Dazzler

Posted: 13 years ago

#17

...For a change I always feel puzzled , Vaibhav was educated , n independent . If he was nt ready for marriage , wy he dint refuse outright .
instead of being courageous , he decides to shock the bride by giving her a file of divorce papers. He hoped that either the bride will accept the divorce that day itself or later when she is disappointed ...what was need to marry then

FOR VaibhaV it seems marriage is a game 😕

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khamosshhh

@khamosshhh

Stunner

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Posted: 13 years ago

#18

Originally posted by: arunima_luvdsky
...For a change I always feel puzzled , Vaibhav was educated , n independent . If he was nt ready for marriage , wy he dint refuse outright .
instead of being courageous , he decides to shock the bride by giving her a file of divorce papers. He hoped that either the bride will accept the divorce that day itself or later when she is disappointed ...what was need to marry then

FOR VaibhaV it seems marriage is a game 😕

Whn VD's marraige was fixed, V had told D abt loving someone else, but dat his love wasn't reciprocated. D had refused to marry him as she said tht she could not accept such a marraige. But IMV made such moves tht D's grandfather was bankrupted nd had a heart attack nd for his sake D asked V to marry her.

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koolsadhu1000

@koolsadhu1000

Stunner

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Posted: 13 years ago

#19

Originally posted by: ssshhh

Whn VD's marraige was fixed, V had told D abt loving someone else, but dat his love wasn't reciprocated. D had refused to marry him as she said tht she could not accept such a marraige. But IMV made such moves tht D's grandfather was bankrupted nd had a heart attack nd for his sake D asked V to marry her.

What I cannot understand is

The purpose of the divorce papers on the first night . Wud not her grandpa have an attack THEN ? His granddaughter had married with dhoom dhaam in front of society and she wud return with a divorce ? It pyzzles me

Also , NOW . If for BBs sake she married what has changed ? Nothing . Is now no one bothered about BB's health ?

Is Vaibhav ok with the fact that he and Sabina may get unnited but two fmilies will be torn and BB may die of shock ?

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khamosshhh

@khamosshhh

Stunner

+ 4

Posted: 13 years ago

#20

Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000

What I cannot understand is

The purpose of the divorce papers on the first night . Wud not her grandpa have an attack THEN ? His granddaughter had married with dhoom dhaam in front of society and she wud return with a divorce ? It pyzzles me

Also , NOW . If for BBs sake she married what has changed ? Nothing . Is now no one bothered about BB's health ?

Is Vaibhav ok with the fact that he and Sabina may get unnited but two fmilies will be torn and BB may die of shock ?