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Posted: 15 years ago
awesome dude ...awesome
didn't see or replied to such a topic since ages.... so first thanks for that


my view is jus abt rati... like u said, it's abt other shows too, bcoz i used to watch those shows too
n i would have said the same even if my fav characeter, gunjan would have been killed

it's ppl view n love n belief on their fav actors..... like suppose if a character whom we dont like would have been killed or (so called-ly) kicked out of the show, then no one would have a problem, then if a controversy arises like this one i.e actor vs ph or CVs....then everyone will PH or Cvs side, as their non-fav character or a vamp is out n their fav couples can b happy or for any reason

but if the same happens with a character they like n the actor is their fav..... n then the reactions take 180 degrees turn....everything changes..... they blame cvs or ph as their fav is out

it's k if they dont watch the show bcoz they dont like it any more.... like they dont like the story line, actors, etc
but not watching jus bcoz they want ph to realize what a big mistake they made.... sounds silly, ridiculous.....

actually talking only abt MJHT, it's not even change of actor, it's totally end of a character... it is they who gave the birth to the chracter, they know how to take it , n how to end it

they have rights to do anything to move their story forward, it is viewers choice to decide whether they watch it or not depending on liking for on-going of that serial n track ..... but no, everyone love blaming ph n the left out actors n chracters

it's not abt how long a character/actor is in the show, it's all abt how much impact it made on the viewers n for how long the character will be alive in their hearts

the impact which the chracter creates on us is not a sole effort of an actor or cv or ph... it's a combined effect of actor, cv AND ph

so i dont think it is fair in anyway to blame ph always.... infact we dont have any right to blame even bcoz it's their serial n they know what's good n what's bad for that
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Posted: 15 years ago
@ rea ....agree to a lot of points.....well the only reason i said gunjan's death wud have worked as well was from d pov in d same light of current track instead of samrat, myank was driving the car but yes u have a point that there wud have been no coherence to connect samrat to mayur after the accident....nupur sticking to samrat's side against mayank seems too much beyond logic's realm itself......

colorful words😆....no comments......

bingo as i said in my earlier reply in this thread if they had killed gunjan in d name of creative experiment or ne other unknown behind d curtains happening reason, i wud have said a bye to the show coz i had a reason to watch n thats not there nemore but i doubt if i cud say the PH may have done a bad job just becoz they killed gunjan......while i am against yellow journalism n name calling in-spite of accepting its way of showbiz world n a hard to agree n digest on d the face fact is media loves to hound those unnamed sources more than reliable sach ka samna karnewale stars😆😆😆 (thanks to my persnl exp)n believes in thriving on every piece of flesh they uncover, ...... i wudnt try to tell the PH how to run their show ne day with or without my favrts.........,.coz am sure they know wat they r doing with their child.....just becoz a mom of 3 children has been bringing them up n rearing them from their birth , to doubt her sanity to do justice to the 4th child does seem far fetched ....i track a PH n appreciate as long as they cater to my taste, or else wud prefer to move on coz there's too much of variety available to get stagnated on one thing....n am sure talented artist always will bounce back with better shows/scripts with or without kektaish effect ....right attitude wins everything for an individual😳....coz as d show must go on so must life n a bright turn is just a hope away....no offense to ne1 ....just stating my pov....

reaaaa its been a pleasure reading ur on the face realistic takes in this thread n thanks for the same😳😳😃

@kavsieee....u here😲.....u dont have time to chat up with me 😭😭.....but sweety lovely post......it was a brilliant take.😃...today is my good day that i have read lot of sensible unbiased opinion after a long long time.....touch wood😆😆😆
Edited by meens1981 - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
hey!!

so now you are here... 👏 !!! i dont know why i always get to know when you are around... PH's should make a show on our connection and dosti as well... and i am sure, they will make like millions cos, of the logic, sense and content in the story!!

😉

you know, fans as they call themselves, never get what, "non-fans" ( thank god) wanna say to them... simple reason... they are so immune to the actions of their favorites, that, they make it their day in day out hobby to notice every single thing the actor does... and all the things that go wrong around them can never be their fault....

i agree taali ek haath se nahi bajti... but i was shocked at the tone in which Rati gave her video interview... may be she was hurt... and felt let down... but, she could have maintained her dignified silence... instead, she went out of her way to talk about how she is a "legend" and about how... she will do something bigger and better than Nupur... dont you get a deja vu feeling when you hear that? well.. its their phase of glory...let them enjoy it... i have made peace with the fact and learnt to ignore that... cos... no amount of drilling logic into the minds of crazy fans... will make them realise what you wanna say....!! and this i mean in general....
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Posted: 15 years ago

Originally posted by: -Rinky-

Umm i dont know krystal....How much who does what for real life issues...You may never know....Personally i have worked for underpriviledged children with my mother and I also know of some forum members who have done voluntary social work too...But when you do make a comment about people you should be a little more careful....

As much as i know...most of my friends here are matured people with a career and family. Their lives dont start with or end with a serial. But maybe they have some reason to fight for an actress whom they love and respect.. Who knows.

A lot of fans who say I will die without MJHT or similar stuffs are rather rare but I guess they are around more so you see more of them. Obsessive compulsive disorder is a problem with a lot of people and unfortunately they attract a lot of attention too.

Its not correct being judgemental....I try not to be so...So irrespective of being a fan of rati i never contributed much to the discussion...kept it neutral...I do know people who are also fond of her who have kept silent. The entire concept of thinking that fans are by nature immature and joobless is somewhat wrong. we do have a life too....

Its sad that people find our love for someone we look up to as obsessive love. we Like someone,and respect someone thus the initiatives. Does it hurt you or anyone? I guess it doesnt. I have told the topic starter to share some knowledge of the how the PH/Cvs system works. It seems she doesnt know clearly so I let the topic.

At the end of the day we all are selfish people who needs to eat and sleep. Its sort of unnecessary to give us unsolicitated
advice.Rest is upto you to decide.

TC
Rinky

Rinky, i tell you that i enjoyed your perspective, and may be you're actually right in pointitng out that a majority of people here would be the kind that should be EXCLUDED from the list of Phan-gals.....might be the latter ones are more vocal so you hear them well above the rest........but still, i myself have seen some of those more sensible people going into a zone borderline the "Unhealthy Obsession", when it comes to defending their favourites.🥱
Also, no it dosent hurt me, or any of the others, if someone likes or fancies any particular person....its that RABID ILLOGICAL idol-worship on (some of) their part, that does.⭐️
Tell me , what sense does it make for sane people when you hear them cussing their brains out or beating their breasts like the End of the World has arrived?? Rati is a famous, accomplished actress who has made it big by her own mettle, she has just ended her contract with a very successful show, and will now go forth to commence her career with another brand new show on Television, which will probably be as successful and take her and her career to great heights. And here on a small Space called I-F, some people aare hopelessly arranging a shok-sabha for her like she's some destitute from Civil-War torn Sudan! Makes me barf, they really do.
I hope THAT made some, sense, Rinky :) have a nice day.
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Posted: 15 years ago
@ reea999

hi dear i was a bit curious about this very popular post going on in the forum and my friend meens asked me to go through this for some very brilliant minds had put forth their take here on a very interesting topic and so i came across your post as well.. thank u for being so kind 😳

i loved how you have given such wonderful comments without being biased and of course being brutally honest a quality i very much appreciate in people i would just like to add welcome to IF and hope you have a pleasant stay here amidst us... hope we get to interact sometime 😳
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Posted: 15 years ago
@reea999 first of all ur post make all the points clear here on this forum and i must say this is one of the sensible post and for that i wanna a thanks to aahana for letting me know abt ur post 👏 u have said everything in very sensibly

we only watch shows to fresh ourself to know something new in our life and of course shows some times give us moral and lesson but show is not our life as we watch and think abt it 24/7 as u said, we love char of the shows but in reality they r only char but real persona is different what we watch them in show, we can easily blame someone for whatever happened but do we really think that for whom we all r bashing ppl and giving them disrespect is really want this and may be agree with that ppl who r insulting them who gave him/her chance to prove his/herself

one more thing show is not running on one actor or actress 100s of ppl r working in this show we only watch epi and declare show lost its charm and new revamp is not up to mark but do we ever realize that this kind of work demands hours of work of many ppl who r involved in it , spot boy to cvs , does that actor and actress run all this no clearly no its cvs who r handling this and this is the cvs who gave us such a superb chars on this beautiful show ya change is law of nature and they changed and revamped show bcz of trp and freshness , they r in business where each and every day's trp decide ur luck and destiny then they have a right to chose what is good for their show here i am saying all this as general fan not mayur and not sajan but mjht fan so please no bashing please

life must go on and we have to move on in our life ,our life changes then its show , and why all the time cvs blamed they r giving u feedback they r giving u their response and coming on forum only to hear that they r liars , do we not respect them , they r also dignified and posses self respect as we posses ,

i also feeling bad for cvs as what they give us beautiful mjht and from us they r getting harsh words and disrespect ,at least being human being we have to understand their situation as well
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Posted: 15 years ago
@ meens1981

thank u for actually explaining yourself the reason why the case would have been completely absurd had gunjan been the target as clearly mayank and nupur as spouses would have stayed on together perhaps could have divorced mayank at the most for killing her sister off bu then what ? samrat united them again and lives a martyr please this isnt a k show i rather would have killed all the four then watch this and ended the show on a sad note if i had the chance

why i see season 2 of MJHT as more fascinating and wonderful as they have finally got in touch with reality yes reality the characters and situations arent hyped nor OTT as i saw initially in season 1 as well but please with marriage of college going teens shown parents missing and illogical babies popping in as well as the most absurd track showing that a politician in INDIA being ruined by a mere common girl was STUPID honestly - i cant stand crybabies hence prefer star one shows initially when i heard someone will die here i thought there joins another CRYBABY but thankfully it is not that - the phase is now over - was sensible initially as i didnt expect a song and dance to be the flavor of the new season in the introduction

road rage, speeding, and accidents are serious issues especially where the YOUTH - the TARGET AUDIENCE - of this show is concerned and through showing the consequences of such incidents by the happenings in the lives of the 4 leads they have shown a SLICE OF REALITY here - why i love Samrat' guilt the most is because it shows the SINCERITY - the REGRET - such incidents need.. which is why i guess even Mayank stopped Riya last night while driving rashly - they are in a way trying to educate the youth to learn from a show that this could happen in reality... THE GUILT FACTOR is the master stroke and hence makes for the gripping storyline in season 2 as we see making Samrat remorseful and repentant which people driving when such accidents happen should be - as many youngsters for a little fun do not understand that their fun could end the road for somebody else....

so in view of that i suppose i agree with you a PH knows what it is doing - they understand the chances they are taking with their product - yes i agree at times they fail as well with the illogical tracks i mentioned - but no one has a 100% success rate in reality - all shows at sometimes dip in story and trp ... a human is allowed to error

as for yellow journalism - I HATE IT - when it is done - however - like to ask a question ... before making assumptions and jumping to conclusions - is what is dished out to me the reality ??

no one likes to wash their dirty laundry in public - clearly blaming someone else - someone who can't take you on is by far much more easy ...and a grim reality so at times truth is not what we see or think when articles related to media are concerned esp

yes sometimes we hear tales of an actor's bad behavior or their good deeds but this is all the work of their PR my dear - any publicity is good publicity - anything to stay in the news as its said out of sight out of mind - which is why stars always give interviews - they arent obliging fans rather are scared of the pits of anonymity that may come - as the times when they were a mere nobody

cos as nobodies they are out their to prove their mettle name and fame however being attained at times is too hard for a few people to digest - and they act pompously - case in point - an actor who played a LEAD - a newcomer a nobody when the show was launched - THE SHOW - was his first MAJOR BREAK - before that he had done small time roles - the name and fame of this SAAS BAHU SHOW - the trendsetter reached its zenith - when his character died people went in a frenzy - and he was resurrected STUPIDLY - yet what happened then ??

he badmouthed the same PH who had made him a STAR - quit as he felt the show is not WORTH HIM ANYMORE - the reason declared i dont wanna play an older character POST LEAP

what happened to him ?? today he is back to square one A NOBODY again - i suppose this happens when people are unthankful to their makers and i say serves them right honestly

So when such articles are generated badmouthing such actors i guess it is the way of the PH to make the fans realize the REALITY - often for which unnamed SOURCES are used - cos my dear nobody wants to get their hands publicly dirty
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Posted: 15 years ago

Originally posted by: aahana86

@ reea999

hi dear i was a bit curious about this very popular post going on in the forum and my friend meens asked me to go through this for some very brilliant minds had put forth their take here on a very interesting topic and so i came across your post as well.. thank u for being so kind 😳

i loved how you have given such wonderful comments without being biased and of course being brutally honest a quality i very much appreciate in people i would just like to add welcome to IF and hope you have a pleasant stay here amidst us... hope we get to interact sometime 😳



thank you dearest aahana for welcoming me i loved your wonderful insightful posts which were a delight to read and am obliged that tru meens we interacted thank you to her for that

about m comments being unbiased am glad you feel that i think to accept the truth one must be that and the brutality part - truth is brutal my dear - a grim reality - not all in life is bubblegum pink candy floss that might be viewed through rose-tinted glasses
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Posted: 15 years ago
@diya,aahana,meena 🤗 ,kavya ,ishika,reea999,sonali guys what a superb replies yar loved it and wow all best ppl r here together i am so happy to see u all here 🤗 🤗
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Posted: 15 years ago
@ aashizin

thank u for being so welcoming i am glad to find such wonderful forthcoming people on this forum a new member opened so warmly def feels obliged thank you aahana for being so gracious as meens

thank you for understanding the use of fictional shows in one's life entertainment and a few things at times to learn thats all nothing much more dont make your life center around it - it is not the end of the world so the point of abusing someone for it to such degrees clearly is a display - a cry for the HELP they need

again point well made a show on the front is recognized by the team of actors but beyond it is the work of many more involved

again thank you for understanding the plight of those poor souls who never get the roses but brickbats a plenty


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