Days Of Thunder 4 SaJan, Neil' Proposal - UPDATED - Page 4

@diya
I agree with you about the fact that both partners needs to be supportive..
I have seen it happening and working well..
but my point here is that, I realy don't believe gunjan loves Samrat ..
Earlier he was her support system.. she missed him..
From the time she has become busy and en if discovered herself...I think she does not seem to miss.
I think any relationship even if you are busy, you need to spend quality time..U need to make the effort..
I don't think gunjan is doing enough..
I like the fact that she is becoming independent and strong..
looks like Samrat is not a part of her life anymore..
I think they need a break from each other..
both need to figure out if they really need each other

Originally posted by: swati_mjht

@diya
I agree with you about the fact that both partners needs to be supportive..
I have seen it happening and working well..
but my point here is that, I realy don't believe gunjan loves Samrat ..
Earlier he was her support system.. she missed him..
From the time she has become busy and en if discovered herself...I think she does not seem to miss.
I think any relationship even if you are busy, you need to spend quality time..U need to make the effort..
I don't think gunjan is doing enough..
I like the fact that she is becoming independent and strong..
looks like Samrat is not a part of her life anymore..
I think they need a break from each other..
both need to figure out if they really need each other

i don't agree AT ALL!! gunjan loves sam alot...and if u feel that she doesn't then i don't think u know her at all!! remember during the sheena track....she backed out didn't she...just for sams happiness she didn't think twice abt hers!! if he was just her "support system" and nothing else...she wudn't hav done that...she wud hav openly spoken to sam despite sheena telling both of them that sam had to choose b/w sheena or gunjan!! another example...the suhaani issue...she knew that he missed her family alot and thats why she didn't care abt herself...she went ahead with hiding the fact that suhaani was his sister....knowing that when he will cum to know the truth he will be upset with her but he will accept his sister...he will forgive her and he will hav his family with him....sumthing that he has always wanted all these yrs!!
and she is making an effort...it is sam who is being unreasonable (evn though in his POV he is correct)....and more than they NEED each other they WANT each other!!

@diya@aahana- completely agree with u both!! well said!!👏

Originally posted by: -Drishti-

i don't agree AT ALL!! gunjan loves sam alot...and if u feel that she doesn't then i don't think u know her at all!! remember during the sheena track....she backed out didn't she...just for sams happiness she didn't think twice abt hers!! if he was just her "support system" and nothing else...she wudn't hav done that...she wud hav openly spoken to sam despite sheena telling both of them that sam had to choose b/w sheena or gunjan!! another example...the suhaani issue...she knew that he missed her family alot and thats why she didn't care abt herself...she went ahead with hiding the fact that suhaani was his sister....knowing that when he will cum to know the truth he will be upset with her but he will accept his sister...he will forgive her and he will hav his family with him....sumthing that he has always wanted all these yrs!!
and she is making an effort...it is sam who is being unreasonable (evn though in his POV he is correct)....and more than they NEED each other they WANT each other!!

@diya@aahana- completely agree with u both!! well said!!👏

Ok, just for the sake of having a balanced discussion, let's look at a complete role reversal ...

Let's say Samrat is chosen for a major cricket tournament like the IPL with a major team owner backing him . NOT basketball ... everyone knows he's good at basketball, but someone finds an unexplored hidden talent in him for cricket too ...

Also suppose, the team owner, a big richie rich powerful guy( obviously -given the state of IPL) is a friend of Sam's dad, and has a young daughter, a hot young thing, who is an ardent fan of Sam's and has had a crush on him since childhood ... maybe she was instrumental in getting Sam this chance, maybe it was his own talent, maybe a combination ...

Sam is in a field new for him, tournament coming up soon, he has 12 hour days with practice sessions, team bonding meetings, strategy meetings, at every one of which this young girl is also present as co-owner of the team ... she seems to be an ideal match for Samrat, same family background etc, everything in place.

By the time he finishes his day, he is too exhausted to even speak to Gunjan ...

How do you think Gunjan will react ... how do you think Gunjan should react?

Note, don't say he will make time for Gunjan ... this example is to put him in exactly the same situation as Gunjan is right now ... including the not having time for her part. This is only about Gunjan's reaction.

Anyone??

Originally posted by: DiyaS

Ok, just for the sake of having a balanced discussion, let's look at a complete role reversal ...

Let's say Samrat is chosen for a major cricket tournament like the IPL with a major team owner backing him . NOT basketball ... everyone knows he's good at basketball, but someone finds an unexplored hidden talent in him for cricket too ...

Also suppose, the team owner, a big richie rich powerful guy( obviously -given the state of IPL) is a friend of Sam's dad, and has a young daughter, a hot young thing, who is an ardent fan of Sam's and has had a crush on him since childhood ... maybe she was instrumental in getting Sam this chance, maybe it was his own talent, maybe a combination ...

Sam is in a field new for him, tournament coming up soon, he has 12 hour days with practice sessions, team bonding meetings, strategy meetings, at every one of which this young girl is also present as co-owner of the team ... she seems to be an ideal match for Samrat, same family background etc, everything in place.

By the time he finishes his day, he is too exhausted to even speak to Gunjan ...

How do you think Gunjan will react ... how do you think Gunjan should react?

Note, don't say he will make time for Gunjan ... this example is to put him in exactly the same situation as Gunjan is right now ... including the not having time for her part. This is only about Gunjan's reaction.

Anyone??

exactly diya i thought just the same...i think provided all these conditions if gunjan is in sam's place...even gunjan will feel neglected...she too will feel that she may lose sam...as the other girl may overtake her position in his lyf...she too will wish that they sit around and have some conversation abt how to plan out things so that sam can manage work and relationship together.I think sam will do the sam as gunjan...coz in my view gunjan is no where wrong but ppl r trying to prove sam wrong which he is not.So in my view sam will react completely like gunjan and gunjan completely like sam that proves that sam's fears and expectations for some time for their relatiosnhip are justified.I think gunjan will raect just as sam is reacting(she will not burst in anger being a girl...but even she will feel left out i am sure).

i was so shocked when neil; siad that i was like say WHAT???....like seriously...and ya now gunjan and neil are gonna go to an outdoor shoot so just think kya hoga bechare samrat ka......and yes even if he goes and tells gunjan this she wont belive him.....
This tracks gonna be damn intrseting...but i hope they dont make it a saas bahu type rona dhona track.....you know sammy backing out-woh tumhare liye zyaada accha hai and blah blah.....ill pull my hair out!

Originally posted by: DiyaS

Ok, just for the sake of having a balanced discussion, let's look at a complete role reversal ...

Let's say Samrat is chosen for a major cricket tournament like the IPL with a major team owner backing him . NOT basketball ... everyone knows he's good at basketball, but someone finds an unexplored hidden talent in him for cricket too ...

Also suppose, the team owner, a big richie rich powerful guy( obviously -given the state of IPL) is a friend of Sam's dad, and has a young daughter, a hot young thing, who is an ardent fan of Sam's and has had a crush on him since childhood ... maybe she was instrumental in getting Sam this chance, maybe it was his own talent, maybe a combination ...

Sam is in a field new for him, tournament coming up soon, he has 12 hour days with practice sessions, team bonding meetings, strategy meetings, at every one of which this young girl is also present as co-owner of the team ... she seems to be an ideal match for Samrat, same family background etc, everything in place.

By the time he finishes his day, he is too exhausted to even speak to Gunjan ...

How do you think Gunjan will react ... how do you think Gunjan should react?

Note, don't say he will make time for Gunjan ... this example is to put him in exactly the same situation as Gunjan is right now ... including the not having time for her part. This is only about Gunjan's reaction.

Anyone??

@ diya
I think gunjan and samrat are 2 different personalities.so their reaction might be different but the feelings might have been same.
Gunjan might not have created a scene..but she would have definitely been insecure and cried alone maybe or told her di abt it.
Smarat has a different way of reacting thats it..
If you do not communicate and spend the desired time, there is bound to be problems from either side

Originally posted by: aarthi.ramani

Awesome diya exactly.. Actually chashmish would have reacted similarly. She may be not outspoken as Sam but would have cocooned herself..at first ... for the person she is and with the same insecurities as sam has now... but again with things going out of hand she would defo outburst like Sam and like Gunjan, Sam would try to create that balance more, may be because here he has a fair idea of her insecurities and her reactions... but in case of Gunjan (real) she is not all aware reasons of his reactions.. That is what the main difference is ... till now she does not understand that Sam's reaction is not because she is doing the film but his real insecurities of losing her. Once she understands that, she will be unable to balance that....

again as i said any relationship has to be worked by both and both have to understand other pov and create a balance which can't be from one side..

@pink

exactly aarthi thats the issue...gunjan isnt wrong but for the first time she is hardly bothered abt the fact that why is sam behaving like this.she thinks that its his pocessiveness or his stubborness but in reality its the BIGGEST fear of his lyf...coz his beete hue kal ka sapna...aaj ki haqeeqat and aane wale kal ke umeed are all slipping away from him just all together.
when sam was almost in the same situations during the suhani tarck or when a discussion abt his mom was made...gunjan was so bothered abt the fact that why is sam so uncomfortable...she held her hand and showed light to him..then why isnt she understanding his fears now????or of not fears she can atleast once take time to think that why is sam behaving like this...there must be some drastic reason no...he isnt going mad for no reason.
when she prepared that time table...she kept only three hours for sam...and nearly 9 hours for shooting yet he was so happy...so issue is not that he wants her to always sit with him and talk with him...he was the one who asked her that its always work first...but then if he is demanding just some of her time to explain his inner feelings and fears to her..is that expecting much???