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Posted: 15 years ago
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Since gunjan seems to be really impressed with Neil...Now I think Sam will create the distance..and let gunjan go away thinking Neil is better for her..
Frankly looking at Neil, I think Sam is going to feel inferior and back off..
Since gunjan is little unpredictable..I am not sure how she would react..but she definitely likes Neil
I really believe SG won't be together anymore..
I really don't want a filmy climax... not all love story's succeed..

Edited by swati_mjht - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: anuverma


Exactly Drishti, well said...... what she means is basically in their relationship .. he's the dominant partner... he leads & she follows..... in u see since their friendship days , she has done whatever Sam has told her to do ...Yes, I agree they were for her benefit.. but still she never says no to Sam..... even the marriage thing .. he said no to marriage quite firmly .. she accepted that also & never nagged him .. though it hurt her a lot that the boy she is crazy abt .. does'nt want to marry her but still she gave in to his wishes......that all what she meant .. that shw will not back out of the commientment to the film cos Nw Sam does not want her to do the movie .. where as he was the one who told / encouraged her to do it in first place............... that ''s my POV



i am sorry dear...i disagree big time...do u really think there is something as a DOMINANT PARTNER in a relationship like sajan????a true relationship is always between two souls who r a part of each other...then how can they be dominant than other??? yes sometimes they move together and sometimes they move forward or behind to the other....but that doesnt mean that one orders and other follows...it isnt a master-slave relationship for heaven sake...its LOVE and that too the purest facets ever posible.
as far as sam is concerned he TILL NOW..note this guys...i am so proud of sam for this...till now he hasnt even once said that gunjan shud leave this film...NOT EVEN ONNCE..guys how can u say this..he was the one who said that i will feel proud of my gf when her film will release...and he still wants her to make her career big.he just demands an explaination...some time for him to explain to gunjan his pov...his fears...coz he has no one to do that...gunjan has...she has nupur to share everything to...sam doesnt has...if his problem is gunjan so is even the solution.he doesnt want gunjan to leave the film...but he wants that gunjan shud atleast once give sometime to him where for a few minutes they can concentrate on just their feelings and what they shud do to solve all the isues apart from the film,crew etc..i think expecting that much isnt wrong on his part.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Aahana, I agree with totally, hun ... I was happily enjoying the episode and the precap suddenly left me shell shocked!!!!

In a way I'm glad this track is going at this pace ... it's been a month since neil entered and the pace hasn't slackened at all ... i definitely don't want another 4 month long sheena type track ...

First of all, I loved Gunjan today 😉 she expressed a lot of my own feelings 😛 And Sam was typical spoiled male, clamouring for attention ... all guys at all ages behave like that! They are all babies at heart!!! 😉

and I agree totally with Drishti and anu ... Sam has always hated it when his plans don't work, or when things don't work his way ... he wanted Gunjan to do the film, he wanted to be proud of her, and now he's throwing tantrums because he didn't realise the time and work commitment it required ... he wants her to be successful, but at the same time, he wants to have her to himself and the way things have always been between them always ... not realising that real life doesn't always work that way and that things will change - if not now, then sometime later ... whenever they enter the real world, this would have happened.

And yes, Sam is not wrong in wanting Gunjan to give him some time to talk to him and discuss things out, because he also knows that they can talk about everything ... but here what happened today was that he talked and didn't listen to her POV ... and the same with Gunjan - she told him what she felt, that she had to do this film, it was a commitment, not "just a film" ... but she didn't see his fear either today because she was upset and yes, a bit angry ... that first you wanted me to do this, and now, because it has changed some things, made me busier, you're getting upset about it? did you not think of this when you asked me to do the film?

Sam is behaving like a child ... because his childhood fears are coming out ... and I really hope that he doesn't back off and start feeling that Neil is better suited for Gunjan ... but this track is very unpredictable so I'm just going to wait and watch.

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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: DiyaS

Aahana, I agree with totally, hun ... I was happily enjoying the episode and the precap suddenly left me shell shocked!!!!

In a way I'm glad this track is going at this pace ... it's been a month since neil entered and the pace hasn't slackened at all ... i definitely don't want another 4 month long sheena type track ...

First of all, I loved Gunjan today 😉 she expressed a lot of my own feelings 😛 And Sam was typical spoiled male, clamouring for attention ... all guys at all ages behave like that! They are all babies at heart!!! 😉

and I agree totally with Drishti and anu ... Sam has always hated it when his plans don't work, or when things don't work his way ... he wanted Gunjan to do the film, he wanted to be proud of her, and now he's throwing tantrums because he didn't realise the time and work commitment it required ... he wants her to be successful, but at the same time, he wants to have her to himself and the way things have always been between them always ... not realising that real life doesn't always work that way and that things will change - if not now, then sometime later ... whenever they enter the real world, this would have happened.

And yes, Sam is not wrong in wanting Gunjan to give him some time to talk to him and discuss things out, because he also knows that they can talk about everything ... but here what happened today was that he talked and didn't listen to her POV ... and the same with Gunjan - she told him what she felt, that she had to do this film, it was a commitment, not "just a film" ... but she didn't see his fear either today because she was upset and yes, a bit angry ... that first you wanted me to do this, and now, because it has changed some things, made me busier, you're getting upset about it? did you not think of this when you asked me to do the film?

Sam is behaving like a child ... because his childhood fears are coming out ... and I really hope that he doesn't back off and start feeling that Neil is better suited for Gunjan ... but this track is very unpredictable so I'm just going to wait and watch.



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AGREE!!!
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Posted: 15 years ago
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niel u better run as far as u can cause no one can save u from sammy
cant wait
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Gosh i am not able to concentrate anywahere... i am sooo worried... Sma will back off... ohhh god this is sick
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Posted: 15 years ago
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wat the hell was that!!😡😡😡😡
how dare neel saying he wud confess if samrat was not there!!!😡
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Posted: 15 years ago
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There is something I can't accept from cvs..........what they want to tell through Gunjan's acts?!!
To be honest I didn't like Gunji yesterday in some parts......... talking about professionalism............ coz I'm against the way they portray it...
Ok.........it is required and good to give your 100% at work.......but not more than that...!!!!
Being shooting for most of the day that you rarely find time to think and do things other than sleep and eat............this is not professionalism in my pov...........this is slavery...
It is so wrong to give more than 100% to your work to impress your manager/employer and achieve your dreams/desires........... coz at the end that more would be taken from other important things/commitments in your life.......... like instead of giving your family your 100%, you'll give'em just 80-70%.......... and this shows that you're taking them for granted........and shows you're giving more value to you manager than you family.......
In my work place at first I was impressed by women in high positions due to their hardwork.........but after a while and knowing about their personal life...............I've changed my mind........they were either divorced or have proplems with their kids............ and I'm now impressed by one of my colleagues......... cos she never tried to give more than 100% to work.........she just do what she is asked to perfectly............and still have a great balance b/w her work and family.......and that's why I always see a smile on her face...........
Yesterday, unless Nup was in Gunji's room, she would never know or ever ask about her sis and her husband............. I didn't like that!!
Knowing her BF was upset.......she didn't call or even seemed bothered about it...!!!..........Instead, she was thinking about Neil!!.......and thinks he is better than Sayank somehow...!!
She is giving more than 100% to fill her commitment to the movie........ and take that more from her other commitments (Nup/Sam).........and I wonder why?!!
Neil never picked her coz she works all the day............he picked her coz of her talent........... so she can set her rules on Neil........I mean not working more than some hours per day........It is her right!!
But I guess it's that we foregone our rights and give more value to our employer on the cost of our beloved ones...........Unkowingly, forego something which is very important to just achieve ambition that seems important at that perticular time....
Her love for Sam was her ambition previously..........and it didn't affect her studies..........she was in balance............and now the movie is her ambition..........but she lost her balance somehow.....
She should never quit the movie...........but she should still give her 100% to Sam..........it's not about how many hour they are together......she can give her 100% by only spent 1 - 2 hour or even 30min of a quality time......... communicate......... that could be more than enough for him......... when his self respect was insulted, she could spare 15min away from others like Neil.......... I don't think the movie will stop due to only 15min...!!
It's about 100% of quality not quantity.......That's what Sam needs and that's what we are missing recently.......
and now how can you compare between a guy who you know for a week with others who you know for years now...!!........What Neil offered to Gunji doesn't reach even 20% of what Sam did give her........
Neil is calm now and acting perfectly coz he is not under pressure..........he is not angry.........circumenstances are in his side.......Otherwise, I still remember how he did insult Gunji infront of the entire craw in their first day shooting.............at least Sam did and will never do that to her.........
I think it would be a good idea to have a seperation now.........coz what is happening now makes me wonder..........does that love I saw from Gunji's side previousely was totaly love?!!...........or a part of it was actually not love but her need for Sam as a guy stand by her side?!!
Do she now need him the way she used to previously?!!......... Or her love would be less since she is discovering a new Gunjan who doesn't need Sam the way she used to?!!
Same goes to Sam..........does that love I saw from Sam's side previousely was totaly love?!!...........or a part of it was actually not love but his need to feel his manhood by protecting a girl who somehow feels pity for her?!!
Can he accept the fact that she doesn't need his protection the way she used to previously?!!......... Or his love would be less since that part of pitiness/ protection won't exist anymore?!!
I think by this change in Gunji's life, both of them and us will have a chance to understand thier real feelings away from any confusion....
This is my "POV"
Edited by yasri - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
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yasri, I understand what you're saying but I have just one question. Is it only a woman who should achieve a balance between her work and home? Is the responsibility of work-life balance only that of a woman? Does her partner not have an equal responsibility as well?

I have some wonderful examples in my family of working women who have equally wonderful supportive partners - if the woman starts her day early, her partner makes sure he starts his day late, so the home and kids responsibility is his in the morning, if she ends her day early, she takes over the home when she gets back and he is free to work late ... they plan their travels so that they are both not out of town at the same time ... it is a lot of give and take. They sacrifice their time with each other to make sure their kids have one or the other parent around all the time.

And that is not called taking your family for granted, or your partner, it is the confidence of knowing that you have an understanding partner who recognises and respects your commitments and can support you at all times, and you can support him. It is when either partner falters, that is when problems arise.

And talking about Gunjan here - she's just starting off her work life and if she doesn't give her 100% to it right now when she DOES NOT have the responsibilities of a home and family then when will she do so?? Remember, she is not married to Sam yet ... they are not even engaged! And hopefully somewhere in this track, Samrat will realise that a formal commitment is necessary for him as much as for Gunjan to feel that their relationship is secure.

As for your last point -


I think it would be a good idea to have a seperation now.........coz what is happening now makes me wonder..........does that love I saw from Gunji's side previousely was totaly love?!!...........or a part of it was actually not love but her need for Sam as a guy stand by her side?!!
Do she now need him the way she used to previously?!!......... Or her love would be less since she is discovering a new Gunjan who doesn't Sam the way she used to?!!
Same goes to Sam..........does that love I saw from Sam's side previousely was totaly love?!!...........or a part of it was actually not love but his need to feel his manhood by protecting a girl who somehow feels pity for her?!!
Can he accept the fact that she doesn't need his protection the way she used to previously?!!......... Or his love would be less since that part of pitiness/ protection won't exist anymore?!!



will the fact that Gunjan needs Sam as a support less now change their love for each other? I don't think so - it will probably change the nature of their relationship, and by the end of this track, bring more maturity into it ... that they are together not because they need each other, but because even if they don't need each other for support, they still want to be with each other ... and with no one else. And that's because the basis and the foundation of their relationship is their deep friendship. Remember Sam DOES like knowing that Gunjan needs him - during the play when she did the music alone, he asked why she hadn't asked for his help and she said she needed to take some responsibilities herself - he wasn't very happy. He has always needed her to need him, because nobody ever needed him before. And same with Gunjan - She needed his support to do things which she hadn't ever done before ...including the movie ... maybe if he hadn't been there, she would have just stayed very quietly in the background and not done those things. And she wouldn't have missed them ... but then she wouldn't have developed the confidence to do what she is doing right now either.

But you're right, maybe a separation is a good idea because they have never been separated before except for very short periods, and they have got back together very quickly. Now this is something which they both have to sort out - she has to sort out her priorities and her work life balance - and it is NOT easy for a woman to do ...
and he has to sort out his insecurities vs his trust in her and their relationship ... AND his commitment issues.

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Posted: 15 years ago
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Yasri I have 2 agree with Diya here

in a relationship if today we say a man and woman are equals then so should be their efforts towards the same be as well

none can or should take the other for granted as thats when things begin to fall apart

at the same time i also think u r right in ur point for them to have a break from each other : U know other then MJHT if a show i still watch and love to do so is FRIENDS .. yes despite the umpteen no of reruns it still manages to rock to me


therein too a i am reminded of a similar thing occurring between Ross & Rachel when she starts working for a fashion house finally doing a job she loves and is good at

Ross who always was the superior working individual compared to her - a mere waitress before had a hard time dealing with this change as he couldn't stand those long hours away from her even reaching at her workplace to celebrate their anniversary with a picnic basket in tow !!!

next we see their huge fight and yes Rachel' famous line : ROSS WE NEED A BREAK , he thinks it's from the fight she' talking about and she says NO ROSS A BREAK FROM 'US'

thou i hope and pray the cv's dont screw up things here like there .. but it is true at times we all need a li'l break from everyone else - including us - our own-selves - as at times we just feel the need to wander off and make a search - find the real us - answer the question - WHO IS THE REAL ME ? WHO I AM ?😳

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