Days Of Thunder 4 SaJan, Neil' Proposal - UPDATED - Page 5

Originally posted by: DiyaS

Ok, just for the sake of having a balanced discussion, let's look at a complete role reversal ...

Let's say Samrat is chosen for a major cricket tournament like the IPL with a major team owner backing him . NOT basketball ... everyone knows he's good at basketball, but someone finds an unexplored hidden talent in him for cricket too ...

Also suppose, the team owner, a big richie rich powerful guy( obviously -given the state of IPL) is a friend of Sam's dad, and has a young daughter, a hot young thing, who is an ardent fan of Sam's and has had a crush on him since childhood ... maybe she was instrumental in getting Sam this chance, maybe it was his own talent, maybe a combination ...

Sam is in a field new for him, tournament coming up soon, he has 12 hour days with practice sessions, team bonding meetings, strategy meetings, at every one of which this young girl is also present as co-owner of the team ... she seems to be an ideal match for Samrat, same family background etc, everything in place.

By the time he finishes his day, he is too exhausted to even speak to Gunjan ...

How do you think Gunjan will react ... how do you think Gunjan should react?

Note, don't say he will make time for Gunjan ... this example is to put him in exactly the same situation as Gunjan is right now ... including the not having time for her part. This is only about Gunjan's reaction.

Anyone??

bang on diya!!! exactly!! she wud react similarly to how sam is...although she wud be more mature abt it....but she will feel left out...and she wud want to talk to sam abt it!! from inside gunjan is as strong as steel but sam is totally vulnerable...and that will be the main difference in their reactions if at all!! she will definitely make it a point to talk to sam....no matter how tired he is...coz she is scared of losing him!! she will feel sad and neglected....thus reacting the same way sam is!!

Originally posted by: swati_mjht

@ diya
I think gunjan and samrat are 2 different personalities.so their reaction might be different but the feelings might have been same.
Gunjan might not have created a scene..but she would have definitely been insecure and cried alone maybe or told her di abt it.
Smarat has a different way of reacting thats it..
If you do not communicate and spend the desired time, there is bound to be problems from either side

that is the difference isn't it?? sam doesn't have anyone other than gunjan to say all these things...but he can't tell her can he?? whereas when its the case with gunjan...she can tell her di...and she will make her feel better!! buy what if...like the current MN track...nupur is not there (shes going to delhi) and shes married now...nupur has other responsibilities too what will gunjan do then?? for how long will she able to cry alone....she wud want to talk to samrat abt it right!! agreed...she wud be more mature abt it...bt the basic reaction wud be the same!!

Originally posted by: -Drishti-

bang on diya!!! exactly!! she wud react similarly to how sam is...although she wud be more mature abt it....but she will feel left out...and she wud want to talk to sam abt it!! from inside gunjan is as strong as steel but sam is totally vulnerable...and that will be the main difference in their reactions if at all!! she will definitely make it a point to talk to sam....no matter how tired he is...coz she is scared of losing him!! she will feel sad and neglected....thus reacting the same way sam is!!

but drishti thats what even sam wants to do..thats why he went to college and explained himself not to be angry...!!! when he was taking away gunjan he didnt mean to force her out of the film but he needed some time off just with her which he was denied. ok just imagine urself in a similar situation...lets say its ur sibling...u have been the one who always supported ur sibling and u were always the most imporatnt to him/her..suddenly he/she gets a huge film offer and one day u go to meet ur bro/sis on the set to discuss something very imporatnat and rather than allowing u
meet him/her u r thrown out and locked in a room.how will u react????wont u be angry...wont u be hurt????

Originally posted by: princessyashika

but drishti thats what even sam wants to do..thats why he went to college and explained himself not to be angry...!!! when he was taking away gunjan he didnt mean to force her out of the film but he needed some time off just with her which he was denied. ok just imagine urself in a similar situation...lets say its ur sibling...u have been the one who always supported ur sibling and u were always the most imporatnt to him/her..suddenly he/she gets a huge film offer and one day u go to meet ur bro/sis on the set to discuss something very imporatnat and rather than allowing u
meet him/her u r thrown out and locked in a room.how will u react????wont u be angry...wont u be hurt????

i'm not saying he is wrong to be hurt or angry...in the situation u gave...i wud feel the same too...and i know what sam wanted to talk abt was important....bt if u've notice...sajan ALWAYS take privately...he cud hav waited till she finished the shoot and went home na...they wud hav been able to talk in peace...and understand each others POV properly...he didn't wait for that!!

Originally posted by: -Drishti-

that is the difference isn't it?? sam doesn't have anyone other than gunjan to say all these things...but he can't tell her can he?? whereas when its the case with gunjan...she can tell her di...and she will make her feel better!! buy what if...like the current MN track...nupur is not there (shes going to delhi) and shes married now...nupur has other responsibilities too what will gunjan do then?? for how long will she able to cry alone....she wud want to talk to samrat abt it right!! agreed...she wud be more mature abt it...bt the basic reaction wud be the same!!

This is the point I wanted to highlight as well Samrat is all alone..
Gunjan is not understanding his fear of losing her and feeling neglected.
Gunjan's character has always been shown as sensitive..I thought she would understand why Samrat
is behaving like this... I just wished she would have asked him thats it..
I just thought she is not making an effort to communicate..that my POV..
don't want to criticize Gunjan

Originally posted by: princessyashika

@pink

exactly aarthi thats the issue...gunjan isnt wrong but for the first time she is hardly bothered abt the fact that why is sam behaving like this.she thinks that its his pocessiveness or his stubborness but in reality its the BIGGEST fear of his lyf...coz his beete hue kal ka sapna...aaj ki haqeeqat and aane wale kal ke umeed are all slipping away from him just all together.
when sam was almost in the same situations during the suhani tarck or when a discussion abt his mom was made...gunjan was so bothered abt the fact that why is sam so uncomfortable...she held her hand and showed light to him..then why isnt she understanding his fears now????or of not fears she can atleast once take time to think that why is sam behaving like this...there must be some drastic reason no...he isnt going mad for no reason.
when she prepared that time table...she kept only three hours for sam...and nearly 9 hours for shooting yet he was so happy...so issue is not that he wants her to always sit with him and talk with him...he was the one who asked her that its always work first...but then if he is demanding just some of her time to explain his inner feelings and fears to her..is that expecting much???

true yashi... she is not understanding his fears at the moment because of sam's angry reactions ... and the circumstances .. first she knew that he was missing her and was upset of not spending time with her so she made that time table.. and gave him the confidence that she would be there with him forever and how much important he is .... so from her side she is trying to give that assurance not by time but by words .......... but then after the apology thing she has the feeling that he is angry with her for forcing him to say sorry and hence his reaction and after he barging in ,she is more confused as why the person who encouraged her is not supporting her...

Originally posted by: -Drishti-

i'm not saying he is wrong to be hurt or angry...in the situation u gave...i wud feel the same too...and i know what sam wanted to talk abt was important....bt if u've notice...sajan ALWAYS take privately...he cud hav waited till she finished the shoot and went home na...they wud hav been able to talk in peace...and understand each others POV properly...he didn't wait for that!!

Gunjan also spoke in front of Neil..she could have waited for Neil to go and then said this to Sam

i h88888 dat neil... i mean hw could he say ol dat rubbish 2 sam...1st of ol hez sumwhere responsble 4 d probs b/w sajan....

Originally posted by: -Drishti-

i'm not saying he is wrong to be hurt or angry...in the situation u gave...i wud feel the same too...and i know what sam wanted to talk abt was important....bt if u've notice...sajan ALWAYS take privately...he cud hav waited till she finished the shoot and went home na...they wud hav been able to talk in peace...and understand each others POV properly...he didn't wait for that!!

drishti how can we say that he didnt wish to wait...lets take it step by step:

first sam arrives at the college...explains to himself not to be angry and talk to her sensibly.
next he tries to enter but is denied.He says u dont know i am gunjan's bf...and the gaurd says no still and rudely asks him that waiting is the only option.Now here comes the point...sam wud have waited...but even before that cud have taken place...when sam asks the gaurd that u shud atleast talk with respect just like i am doing...he goes to bashing him saying that now they will not even allow him to wait outside and they push him so badly.
drishti the circumstances didnt even gave him a chance to wait!!! before he cud decide anything...the gaurd said that he wont even be allowed to wait...and for whom????for the girl he loves the most.

Originally posted by: princessyashika

drishti how can we say that he didnt wish to wait...lets take it step by step:

first sam arrives at the college...explains to himself not to be angry and talk to her sensibly.
next he tries to enter but is denied.He says u dont know i am gunjan's bf...and the gaurd says no still and rudely asks him that waiting is the only option.Now here comes the point...sam wud have waited...but even before that cud have taken place...when sam asks the gaurd that u shud atleast talk with respect just like i am doing...he goes to bashing him saying that now they will not even allow him to wait outside and they push him so badly.
drishti the circumstances didnt even gave him a chance to wait!!! before he cud decide anything...the gaurd said that he wont even be allowed to wait...and for whom????for the girl he loves the most.

ur misunderstanding me yashika....i meant he shud hav waited at home or whatever...and waited for gunjan to finish her shoot and cum back home...where they wud be able to talk everything thru...just like they always do!! the guard was really rude to him...i agree...and he did try to calm himself down...put i just feel it wud hav been best had he never cum there itself!! and we know that gunjan is the one he loves most bt do the guards...no right...so how can the guards believe him wen he says that hes gunjans bf?? and anyways....these small things have to happen...coz otherwise where will the doori cum from?? if sajan had got to talk to each other....they wud hav solved each others doubts and problems...and in that way this track wud be back to square one!! the CVs need to put these things....so that the treack can go forward....coz for a relationship like sajans...only sumthing really big can create a distance b/w them!!