Moderation/Section Feedback :) - Note 49 - Page 27

Originally posted by: mads

MODS,

I hav jus one small question to u all ..

this is an OPEN DISCUSSION FORUM .. right ?? my emphasis being on every syllable of the word .. ppl here are allowed to discuss WHAT they want.. in WHATEVER way they want..right? multiple topics for one single epi/scene are closed down .. EVEN WHEN, what v wanna discuss doesnt fit into what the topic starter has posted in her topic..we are forced to discuss it ther !!!

NOW..when v discuss ALLL the epis/scene in ONE single topic..even THAT is closed down .. may I ask WHY?

if its on the grounds of hurting any fellow members, then m sorry, ther has been only and only thorough discussions going on in ther .. did the mods even hav the patience to check thru ALL the pages before closing down the topic ??

if its on the grounds of chatting/spamming .. then heck, ALL the so called "mansions and paradises" need to b closed down and u can check every freaking post ther .. it begins wit a "hey..whats up.." has something like "sajan wer soo januable today..soo cute today " and ends wit "okie..byee gnite!" there is NEVER a discussion going on in ther .. inspite of that, these topics are NEVER closed down..may I ask why ??

I wil not shut up until u give me a logical answer to these questions and tell me WHY my topic below was closed down soo brutally and soo harshly ..

https://india-forums.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=1349941

Originally posted by: aj_observer

I would like to clarify a few things...and correct me if I am wrong...I see the trend in the forum ... which irks me the most... and it is wrong and baised...

I am a MN fan so I can't talk about SG.. I am not allowed to say I didn't like it...so I keep quite... Should n't the rule be applicable to all of us...

Why in the name of appreciation , sarcastic mocking posts using wrong emoticons are tolerated which hurt the sentiments of population of fans...

Why are the viewbies / mods ( please I am not taking any specific names, you all are team and you are responsible as a team ) are quick to jump to conclusions and issue warning and close topics that MN fans open which have nothing to do with SG but are simply venting posts... but SG fans will open mocking topics which are left alone for a long time even after repeated reports... I do excercise my right to report such hurtful posts... but seldom it is ever done... the funniest thing is I see the DT online at that time... just they chose not to respond...

Why people are trying to hit on the sore spot again and again and expect others not to respond... because the sole purpose is to elicit such a response as it provide instant victory and selfish gratification... and once the response is elicited...make them in a sect and address them as collective and honor them with titles and names... yes, I am called a name...

The disrespect shown towards a MN fan on this forum is really intolerable... it ranges from personal to down right deragotory remarks towards MN.... knowing for a fact we differ from the views of other fans who might have a different POV , which is considered insulting and highly reprehensible by MN fans... they can't seem to hold back... and given a chance will repeatedly go at it... I am not sure for what purpose though... because the POV is not neutral... it can never be...

Rules are for some members are not for all... I say that is bais... please prove me wrong because I have few posts in MJHT forum... to prove it...

I feel tougue tied in the forum.... I can never say anything right... because I am going to hurted some one's feelings... what about mine ??? Don't they amount for anything ??

Originally posted by: DramaholicVibes

In the first post, yourself mentioned,

I asked my fellow DT whether anybody granted the premission for this "offical" episode discussion thread and nobody did, So, on that bases the thread was closed. Also i did look through the pages and i did see that a decision was being made by yourself to make the thread a "sajan scene discussion thread".

ok, I sincerely apologise for that, since I didnt know that prior permission is necessary to start a discussion thread.

That could easily be done in SaJan mansion. I don't see why we need a seperate discussion for sajan scenes?

and my objection to the closure of this thread on the grounds of chatting/spamming is exactly this .. because as far as I know, there was no chatting/spamming going on in that thread. Secondly, u hav mentioned the SaJan mansion, but if u look through the pages of the mansion, u will see that there are NO discussions going on in the mansion, the pages are filled with chats and I m not making such stories up, so please really hav a look at all the pages on the mansion and see if discussions really are going on .. plus, SaJan mansions need not be only abt everyday episode discussions ( even those are not taking place there! )..they can be about so many other things, since its a MoNaya mansion too, they can discuss MoNaya there too .. and the VMs that people have made..there are so many other things to discuss there apart from just the daily episodes .. and thats why I m for the idea of a weekly episode discussion thread!

If we allow this then MN fans will ask for the same.

I fail to understand the need to turn this into an MN v/s SG thing.. If MN fans want to have a separate thread, why cant they? Jus because they wil ask for a separate thread doesn't mean, we do not have a right to have our own? Let them have their own episode discussion thread..why can it not be possible? Infact, I would say that such two separate threads one one single epi would avoid/prevent the recent fights in the forum as people will peacefully discuss their own couple without coming into each other's ways!

because, all said and done, the forum has now reached a state, where its been divided into two sections - MN fans and SG fans .. where there IS a wall between MN and SG fans..some people may go on to say that they are neutral fans .. and that they dont "mind" the other couple, I frankly feel this is just a way for them to stay out of forum fights, but when the time comes, they very well know which side to choose for their own selfish reasons! There are some sets of fans on both sides that simple refuse to accept the other couple in the show to the point of HATING that couple and hence in the forum they do not make an attempt even to understand the fans of the couple.. there may be some other sets of fans on both the sides which may genuinely understand the other side but can never befriend them whole-heartedly! And hence, this wall cannot be broken and there cannot be true unity b/w MN and SG fans now..not after all that has happened during the recent times, not only on this forum, but also in the show.

And hence, in attempting to develop peace within the forum and therefore not allowing separate discussion threads, according to me, is a bad idea, because that wil infact generate more havoc in the forum!

There are already tons of open topics on SG and MN so what is the point of this "scene discussion topic" when other members will continue to post scene discussion as seperate topics.

and these TONS of topics are closed down every 2 min, because, they seem to be 'repetitive' .. and I agree, since those are the rules of the forum .. but my point is, in case there is one topic which is opened which discusses one aspect of the scene and if we want to discuss some other aspect, then do we not have the right? Why are we forced to discuss in that topic itself if we dont really have much to add in that topic? so then, we open a new topic..but that topic is closed down on the grounds of being repititive .. ok, lets say this is justifiable .. then why isn't it justifiable to discuss all the epis in one topic itself, like we did in my topic?

The Topic is currently open, but a discussion regarding it is being made.

Please be patient as the result will soon be out.

- MJHT DT

I apologise for any harsh tone if u feel is used above and in my previous post, but the recent happenings at the forum have really tested my patience as a member of the forum and the ways of this forum hav irritated me beyond imagination .. and therefore the use of such a tone!

Hello Dear Mods,

Just a small suggestion when you close any member's topic which u think is repetitive, please do add a courteous note to it. Most of the times the topic closure note appears quite blunt and thats the reason it appears ineffective to the member or the friends of the members and they get easily irked or feel the mods r biased etc etc. I totally agree that you people are not to be blamed always, n u don't mean to appear rude and are just doing your job but what's the harm if u add a lil nicety
factor there. 😊

Another point I felt could help avoid lot of tension is don't take a topic directly to closed state just becoz its repetitive or someone reported it to be derogatory or provoking. Pls have an in between mode ....say the topic on hold where the DTs can PM the member and give the member a chance to put their perspective if their topic is diff from the other person's and if they are able to justify the same, the topic should continue. Am sure if its mundane topic the topic starter won't have much diff to say in the reply.
Moreover if there is a new idea started by a member lets not close it worrying that others would demand similar treatment, rather pls lets work together to see how and if this could be accommodated for all and see if it makes sense. There's no point adding a closure note and saying "PM if you have an issue" coz it sounds like doing post mortem after the deed is done.

Another suggestion, Most of the times when a member reports a topic to be provoking, pls put those topics on hold, even hide the topic for sometime if possible, Pls PM the topic starter and reporter to get a POV of both their concerns in the same PM and if each can has misunderstood the others intentions , am sure it can be resolved amicably and the topic can be released open then. If not u can take a decision if either the topic maker is blunt in their response in the common PM or if the reporting member is a tad too sensitive to read in between the lines about whats not being conveyed then a right amount of warning can be given to either member before releasing the appropriate decision. And this should hold good for all the members and fans irrespective of which Jodi or actor they prefer. Am sure all of us are here to have fun and enjoy rather than fight with one another so we should look at ways of staying peacefully while having a good time without getting into constant fights about our misconceptions

I know this means lot of more work, but you can always request volunteers to take on this additional work of getting into discussion with people concerned. The idea is that an issue can be resolved in better fashion than closing every other topic coz as humans you would only tend to feel bad so its better to handle it more seamlessly right?

And in your topic closure notes, could pls add something along these lines, For instance you could start the note with" Dear Member, We are afraid but we believe that this topic is repetitive, so we are forced to close the same. Please PM us if you have another POV on your topic being diff from the one mentioned in this note and we will look into the same and together we can resolve the same. If fact adding an apologetic note does u no harm even though you have done nothing wrong, but the fact you have been nice to the member would make it a lil easy for them to accept it without trying to question the Mod's judging abilities and that would help the member understand better is my belief. In short "zor ka jhatka dheere se"😊

But nevertheless everything said and done you guys (all of u) are doing a fab job of managing this forum which is so full of different kinds of people and maintaining the same to such an extent is a challenge unto itself. So we do acknowledge the grt work u ppl are putting together👏 as u deserve to be acknowledged for your diligent efforts

Could we created a post for waqas_ali to post trps. He could edit and update with latest results. I am sure people will love to know what the current trp's are. People seem to be responding to old posts when new info in available....

as a matter of fact , any member can utilize the post with proper reference.

Just a suggestion.

Sorry To Spam,😆
One more suggestion.

Could we have a DTOW regarding the THE BABY. It would avoid repeated topics that will be posted regarding the promo.

such as Nupur and baby,
Mayu and baby,

So on and so forth...

we all know it won't be any of them...
the apprehension will make the topics go hay wire...

please do as you see fit

@meens1981 - First off, thank you so much for your suggestions.

About repetitive topics: We do try and leave a note for most of the repeat topics. Yes, those notes are concise because we think we've explained the issue regarding the repetitive topics so many times. Before posting a topic we should go back a couple pages and see if a similar topic exists. And also with the search feature it shouldn't be too hard to figure if one needs to post a reply to a topic or a whole new topic.

We try and not to close a topic if something new has been introduced in the topic or if it seems like the topic starter has put in a lot of effort and thinking into it. But if it keeps happening on a regular basis then we close it because that post could go in the other topic and doesn't need to be posted as a separate thread.

About reported topics: We do not just close a topic or take any action just because something is reported. We go through the topic and see if the tone was harsh or provocative or anything like that. If not, then we don't take any action. But if it is against IF's COC then we don't see any reason to leave it open. We close it and usually a PM is sent out to the member to remind them that such posts are not allowed.

About PMs, since we have so many repeat topics we can't possibly send out a PM to every member and wait till they respond and explain their side. So we just close them and leave our note there. But if a thread can be kept open with a few changes, then we let the member know to do that so we don't have to close it.

You're right, we could add all that to our notes and it really does no harm. The only thing is that we get irked too since we keep seeing the same thing over and over again.

Thanks again for your suggestions and appreciation! We really appreciate them!

@AJ - About TRP thread, yes, we were thinking about the same. Such a thread will be up soon.

About the baby discussion, that's a good idea. Thank you! Let me take it to the rest of the DT but I'm sure there won't be any problem with putting that up.

Thanks for the suggestions!

Originally posted by: DramaholicVibes

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Gagan is busy with DMG due to the arrival of KSG, she will post the new set of rules for MJHT Very soon

Mods,

Its high time and we seriously need some rules in place for repeated topics.

Agreed every1 is ecxcited to write abt their fav scene or couple, but creating 10 topics for same is a bit 2 much. The forum is totally cluttered.

Please look into this

annie