I was shocked when Riya said......

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Posted: 9 years ago
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I was shocked when Riya said to Nandu that when he helps her make things well between her and Shivam she will fix everything between Pritiji and Nandu bhaiyya.
Priti can be in whatever way she wants. She can be not doing any work at home thinks too much of herself insults Nandu etc etc.

Priti was forced to marry Nandu. And she did not want to marry Nandu . In fact she hated him.

Now Riya is consoling Priti saying "Jo hogaya so hogaya" meaning Priti has to live with it live with Nandu.

She herself because of her educated status and the fact that she has all the rights to decide in her house messed up her own marriage but married Shivam adamantly.

Priti is not so privileged . On top of that Riya did nothing for Mohit and Priti she only threatened Priti.

Now Priti got married under force and Riya has the audacity to say "Jo hogaya so hogaya"

On top of that she bribes Nandu saying if he helps her make things alright between Shivam and her she will make things alright between Priti and Nandu.

I was appalled at her insensitive nature. She was making a deal with Nandu at that stage.

Priti has become uncontrollable under the circumstances But can anyone blame her?

Riya if she had married Amit and somebody said to her "Jo hogaya so hogaya" how would she feel?

Priti is irritating. People become so when their dreams are shattered and they are not happy.

Riya "tum bhi koi kum nahi" when it comes to stupidity.

She chased Shivam and almost married Amit under misconception. She tried to bribe Sarla to marry Shivam.

She is not so great herself. Her father is open minded so it is OK for her.

But Priti being where she is one cannot blame her under the circumstances. Yes she could have not gotten into relationship with Mohit. Then she would not have suffered.

But modern bahu Riya has not helped Priti in her love. She tried to please Shanti sadan elders by marrying Priti off to Vyom.

She is insensitive when it comes to others. When it is her own self she is different.

Riya is selfish. On top of that this get up of hers it is irritating to the core. And her way of speaking.

And she says "umli tede kar ni padegi" as if her umli was straight earlier. That was pehle se bhi tede thi.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Why should Riya help Priti. She fought for her own marriage, If priti loved Mohit, then she shouldve had the guts to fight for her love.

Riya making that deal with Nandu was in bad taste, i too agree. But no-where is she responsible for Priti marrying Nandu. Its mostly Priti's fault only. Even if she forced Priti to come clean. It was Priti's lack of guts which panicked her and made her confess on radio.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Pleas. I was more d shhhockked to hear flan Riya say I don't want to use kanoonand techniques on my people ( her ppl fkn Shivam shanti kaush) they will love me when they know of Chanda crook

I said to myself. You idiot. If u didn't want technique thn why fkn proof and CD etc ????
Idiot - u idiot Riya - Chanda was anyway a one "x"
Shanti always wanted u out
Hehehe 😆
🤣

Wat shit piece Riya talks
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: anjs

Why should Riya help Priti. She fought for her own marriage, If priti loved Mohit, then she shouldve had the guts to fight for her love.

Riya making that deal with Nandu was in bad taste, i too agree. But no-where is she responsible for Priti marrying Nandu. Its mostly Priti's fault only. Even if she forced Priti to come clean. It was Priti's lack of guts which panicked her and made her confess on radio.


Riya need not help Priti. But she need not have compelled Priti to come clean. Knowing the state of Shanti sadan and the people there.

But Riya was trying to please Shanti Sadan people by working on Priti's marriage with Vyom. She at no point felt bad or was sensitive to Priti's pain. Priti should have the guts to come clean. But where Shanti mata is there can anyone come "clean" with anything? Did Shivam come clean? Riya did because her house is a free zone.

But being sensitive to someone's pain is different from "helping" them. You may not help them but don't be insensitive and try to tell the affected person "jo hogaya so hogaya" that was cruel.

No wonder Priti says to Riya you married Shivam why wouldn't you talk. Riya goes for what she wants. She speaks to anyone and every one. She has a father who is an idiot. Who keeps quiet when Riya is going to Shanti sadan in that get up pittal zari waia sarees and tries to "speak" like them calling "shivam" "maalik" If it is "Jo hogaya so hogaya" then when is Riya going and making a spectacle of herself in Shanti sadan?

Shivam signed divorce papers. If she is so smart why did she sign divorce papers? She should have fought then.

She lies to her father every now and then as to what happens in Shanti sadan. She goes hungry tryng to guilt trip Shivam.

She sweetly advises Priti "Jo hogaya so hogaya" if that is so why does she not go and find another guy? Why run behind Shivam?

Priti loved Mohit . He turned negative. True. Still the pain will be in Priti's heart. May be her fault. May be Mohit was not worthy of her love. But she went to see Mohit out of isaaniyat and got fooled.

Her life ruined. She hates Nandu. The least one can do is to be sensitive.

And one more thing. Riya trying to wear these pittal zari too good to be true sarees and having the country look is making fun of thouusands of women who dress up that way who may be nicer humans than Riya more educated and more refined. Who is she trying to mock?

And calling Shivam maalik imitating Kusiya that is offensive. If I were Kusiya I would take offence saying Riya is trying to mock me. Shanti sadan people are stupid trying to tolerate Riya and her stupid naatak.

If she really loved Shivam she would go away . Let Shivam come and get her.


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Posted: 9 years ago
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I both agree and disagree with you and I think anjs has made a good point- that in the end, we are all responsible for our actions. Riya is not responsible for Preeti not "fighting" for Mohit- that was Preeti's responsibility. Yes she was a quiet and shy girl before- but she wasnt so shy that she refused to go running around with Mohit. If she had the guts to meet him behind everyones back (and I dont even think theres anything wrong with it given how insane that family is) then she should have the guts to fight for him too. Not lead him on making him think there is something there. His parents and her parents- im sorry to say- shouldnt have even factored in the equation. I know alot of people will disagree with me- but their parents have lived their lives, its time for you to stand up for yourself and your own life, put your heads together and come up with a plan as a couple. Preeti got all hot and bothered because Mohits parents insulted her parents. Well... it goes both ways. Mohit tried his best to be with her regardless of his parents outburst and honestly- he too jumped down preeti's throat the minute she defended her own parents. Come on- youre adults, put all that rubbish aside- your parents issues are not your issues, grow up and act like adults. They were both at fault to varying degrees, biting back at each other instead of finding a solution. And then this mohit makes it a hundred times worse turning into a drunk maniac instead of manning up and figuring out an adult solution.
I do think it was insensitive for Riya to say Jo hogaya so hogaya- because its never that simple is it. Why should preeti accept her situation? She can change it- but she needs the guts to do it. Which she simply doesnt have, shes all talk and no action. But Riya isnt responsible for her- she is taking action for her own situation- however moronic we all might think it is, shes doing what she thinks will work for her. What is preeti doing but sitting on her backside at home and scowling and grumping 24/7? You dont like your situation? go out and work, sod your family and divorce him- go and live with your uncle if you have to (Kushias brother)- do something with yourself instead of sulking eternally.
I dont blame preeti for the way she has become- anyone who started out the way she did, so trodden upon at every turn would finally snap at some point. If anything, Im hoping she really becomes horrible to kushia- show her what kind of upbringing she has given her children first hand. I dont blame preeti at all for turning into such a nasty character... but shes still responsible for her situation- no one is going to save her if she cant be bothered to save herself. Shes no one elses responsibility but her own.

By the time Riya encouraged Preeti to marry vyom- preeti herself had already forsaken Mohit as he had gone completely insane. Riya was just giving her her best chance to settle into a ""good"" family after the mishaps with Mohit who had by then totally tarnished her "reputation" in mughal sarai. Riya did give preeti a chance to come clean with the family regarding mohit, but instead of using her brain, she panicked and got herself into a ditch. Not riyas fault if she cant keep a cool head but can still run around with a boy. If youre willing to do that, then be prepared for the consequences.

And I so agree with you on the sarees. It is UTTERLY irritating. I dont even know why she is still wearing them! lol! stupid. And youre VERY right, i was thinking the same- many women dress like that im sure- so what point is she making? But i assume it was to irritate shanti devi because thats exactly how shanti dresses. I dont think it was to mock anyone but the old crone- but what for now?? its over and shanti doesnt even seem to care.

And youre right- riya was insensitive when she said that to Preeti- but STILL , preeti needs to fix her life, no one else. I appreciate the points you made- food for thought.
Edited by CoolBeans86 - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: CoolBeans86

I both agree and disagree with you and I think anjs has made a good point- that in the end, we are all responsible for our actions. Riya is not responsible for Preeti not "fighting" for Mohit- that was Preeti's responsibility. Yes she was a quiet and shy girl before- but she wasnt so shy that she refused to go running around with Mohit. If she had the guts to meet him behind everyones back (and I dont even think theres anything wrong with it given how insane that family is) then she should have the guts to fight for him too. Not lead him on making him think there is something there. His parents and her parents- im sorry to say- shouldnt have even factored in the equation. I know alot of people will disagree with me- but their parents have lived their lives, its time for you to stand up for yourself and your own life, put your heads together and come up with a plan as a couple. Preeti got all hot and bothered because Mohits parents insulted her parents. Well... it goes both ways. Mohit tried his best to be with her regardless of his parents outburst and honestly- he too jumped down preeti's throat the minute she defended her own parents. Come on- youre adults, put all that rubbish aside- your parents issues are not your issues, grow up and act like adults. They were both at fault to varying degrees, biting back at each other instead of finding a solution. And then this mohit makes it a hundred times worse turning into a drunk maniac instead of manning up and figuring out an adult solution.
I do think it was insensitive for Riya to say Jo hogaya so hogaya- because its never that simple is it. Why should preeti accept her situation? She can change it- but she needs the guts to do it. Which she simply doesnt have, shes all talk and no action. But Riya isnt responsible for her- she is taking action for her own situation- however moronic we all might think it is, shes doing what she thinks will work for her. What is preeti doing but sitting on her backside at home and scowling and grumping 24/7? You dont like your situation? go out and work, sod your family and divorce him- go and live with your uncle if you have to (Kushias brother)- do something with yourself instead of sulking eternally.
I dont blame preeti for the way she has become- anyone who started out the way she did, so trodden upon at every turn would finally snap at some point. If anything, Im hoping she really becomes horrible to kushia- show her what kind of upbringing she has given her children first hand. I dont blame preeti at all for turning into such a nasty character... but shes still responsible for her situation- no one is going to save her if she cant be bothered to save herself. Shes no one elses responsibility but her own.

By the time Riya encouraged Preeti to marry vyom- preeti herself had already forsaken Mohit as he had gone completely insane. Riya was just giving her her best chance to settle into a ""good"" family after the mishaps with Mohit who had by then totally tarnished her "reputation" in mughal sarai. Riya did give preeti a chance to come clean with the family regarding mohit, but instead of using her brain, she panicked and got herself into a ditch. Not riyas fault if she cant keep a cool head but can still run around with a boy. If youre willing to do that, then be prepared for the consequences.

And I so agree with you on the sarees. It is UTTERLY irritating. I dont even know why she is still wearing them! lol! stupid. And youre VERY right, i was thinking the same- many women dress like that im sure- so what point is she making? But i assume it was to irritate shanti devi because thats exactly how shanti dresses. I dont think it was to mock anyone but the old crone- but what for now?? its over and shanti doesnt even seem to care.

And youre right- riya was insensitive when she said that to Preeti- but STILL , preeti needs to fix her life, no one else. I appreciate the points you made- food for thought.


I agree with you. Priti should have had the guts to go against her family. Run off elope do something.

RIya does not have to help Priti.

But at least she could be sensitive to Priti's pain. In marrying Nandu.

But she is only bothered about herself. She even makes a deal with Nandu who Priti hates. Even when she is in a cliffhanger situation in Shanti Sadan.

That insensitivity is what I am talking about.

And as for stupidity Riya why did she sign divorce papers? Why did she not say she wanted to talk to Shivam before doing anything?

Let me tell you no judge will allow a girl or a boy to go gatecrashing into their in laws house to be there for the six month wait period.

Divorce can be sought under various circimstances. No one can compel anyone to go and live with their in laws for the six month waiting period.

The six months are for reconsidering their decision about divorce. Not for living together under such conditions.

Why does not Riya ask every person in Shanti sadan through the help of the judge how they hold her responsible for Priti's and Nimmi's marriages?

Why does she not ask at least Shivam? Why does not her Papa ask Shivam? or ask Raghwa?

That is fighting for her own rights.

Not making deal with Nandu.

Let anyone say anythign about Priti. Let her be in any way she wanted. She is justified. She married Nandu under compulstion. Nandu may be nice guy a RBDJ guy. Does not matter. That is not the way to get married.

Human minds are powerful. Priti loved Mohit. She would have kept quiet if she married Vyom at least she was rich. or belonged to a rich sasural.

Now she is married to Nandu who she hated that too compulsorily so. Made to live in her own house under humiliation.

She is justified.

Everybody is not so lucky like Riya. They have their circumstances. Priti had hers.

Riya should not have made the deal with Nandu .

As for Chanda matter let me tell you let Chanda marry Shivam. Let all of them suffer. Let Shivam suffer. Why is Riya worried?

There are ways to find out about Chanda without going with head covered to shanti sadan gully along with her father.

Riya stop interfering and leave Shanti sadan people alone. Let Kusiya be looted by Shanti and Sarla. Let Chanda steal Chandrahaar and whatever else in the house.

For what they did to Riya let the family suffer. Why bother taking videos Riya.? What good is it going to do?

Live your life . Don't go behind these people.

As for imitating Shanti Devi that is a laugh. Shanti Devi wears crispy cotton sarees with embroidery and cut work in such pastel colors. She is the best dressed woman in the serial.

She never wears such gaudy sarees like Riya. Who is she trying to imitate ? herself? Riya stop mocking people. grow up.
Edited by pyaaribehna - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
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You can't compare what a seventy year old from an Orthodox family wears to a young woman in her twenties.
Obviously Riya's dressing style and type of traditional clothes she wears will be different . The Srivastav family are Kayastha brahmins and are shown very tradition abiding so obviously the d i l of the family will wear clothes accordingly , her sarees will all be bright , colorful while Shanti devi a widow will wear subtle sober colors which will suit her age . She wore reddish sarees in between which again are a part of attire for widows of upper caste families. Why do we have to criticise the characters for the type of clothes they wear? Its not by choice Riya is wearing those sarees .
Moreover what will Riya do , if her dialogues are meek , is asked cry and only apologize ? Where's the scope to get even ?
Shanti devi is given a lot of power and very good dialogues and this plot has a huge flaw where CVS keep redeeming Shanti devi .
Edited by Maverick_me - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
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I am not understanding your point... are u angry on Riya for wearing traditional clothes, or for behaving like a doormat or for not taking Priti's side when Priti has been forced to marry Nandu.

for first two points i agree, even i am angry with her.

But not for Priti...yeah i didnt like how she made a deal with Nandu, but apart from that its really not her fault that Priti couldnt keep calm after she asked to come clean. Her asking that is also valid as the family is traditional and it wouldve hurt them immensely had they found out later.

But then If Priti had the guts to approach Mohit, and lead him on, then she needed to deal with the consequences on her own. She has acted weird right from the time Mohit's parents fought with hers. She wasnt pained or hurt that now she wont be with her love. She was angry and eager to break it off with Mohit.

Riya totally took her side, when She told Shivam that Priti will get married only if she wants to. Riya pressed for her marriage with Vyom mostly cause Priti wanted to marry him. She was totally understanding and explaining things to Priti.

She even went to fetch Priti when this dumb woman decided to play the god samaritan on her wedding day n fled the mandap. Yet what did Priti do...put the whole blame on Riya. So much that the family kicked her out. Was Riya involved in getting her married to Nandu, no ? It was her evil Dadi, and her parents...her brother also since he was a mute witness, but Riya was already kicked out, right ? so how was that her fault.

And its pretty normal for a woman to be angry with the person for whom she has done a lot, yet that person has back-stabbed her. Infact I wish she would be this angry with Shivam, Kaushalya and Shantiya. Atleast she will try to move on then.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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I'm not sure how much I agree with Riya being sensitive to Preeti's pain in marrying Nandu. Again, I think that was Preeti's responsibility. Marriage isn't a joke and she knows that- or she "should" know that. No woman or man should allow anyone to force them into marriage- however, of course its never that simple. She got swept along with it and "apparently" didn't have a choice. She COULD have made the choice to refuse to marry Nandu- just like Riya made the public choice not to marry Amit. But here I agree with you again- god knows what Preetis family would have done to her had she refused, whereas, Riya still had her father's full support and her dadi-bua who didn't even want her married into that family in the first place. HOWEVER, Preeti still had options- she still could have refused Nandu right there and then, left SS and gone to live with her uncle (kushias brother- her aunt is a good woman, a billion times better than her own good for nothing mother). Preeti DID have options- but she made her bed, now lie in it. Its all on her head, in my opinion, even after looking at it from all these angles. However, yes I agree, Riya could be a little more "sensitive" to her situation. Shen not there to bail her out or fix her life for her, but she could have "worded" it differently- and that's as far as I can agree on that. She could have even told her that there are other ways out of this mess. She could divorce or move out and live with other family members if she is truly unhappy- not to just sit like a duck and accept her fate. We are all in charge of our fate more than we are not- there is that 10% that seems to get us no matter what we do or don't do- but 90% of the time I believe we are in charge of our lives- all that is truly needed is guts. If you have the courage to stand up for yourself, no one can screw you over. But preeti is sat whining about her lot in life when she is the one who created it. I don't feel sorry for her even a little bit; what good will it do to feel sorry for someone who wont help themselves? How is that empowering anyone? I wont sit and cry with her- and I suppose in a way that's what Riya might have meant? That what has happened has happened in your life- now live it the best way you can. However, I do agree that she should have added to that "you can change your life if youre brave enough to do it, its possible". But I'll tell you something- Riya is not the one who should be talking to that girl, neither is the mother or father- only one of the siblings should be talking to her like this because shes not responsive to anyone at the moment- least of all riya. And yet no one is temporarily ignoring her temper tantrums (which are obviously a mask for the pain she is in) and just being her friend or just being on her side. How many of us have had friends or siblings or someone we care about who had got a bad deal in life and lash out at the world because they couldn't handle it anymore? Do we just shun them and scream and shout at them forever? No you let them express their anger for a while and then eventually you sit them down and somehow try and get through to them- you put their anger aside for two measely minutes and see the person behind all that anger. But who in this stupid show has done anything like that? Don't even count stupid kushia speaking to her in that mousy voice "beta this, beta that" because all she does is speak in a soft voice and tell her daughter to just "deal with it"- no help whatsoever. On the one hand I don't blame Preeti for turning out this way, on the other I think she is completely out of control and needs someone to give her a good throttle and shake and de-clog the spiky cobwebs from her head. She needs to be jolted out of this funk she is in. Not told to sit and accept her fate. I myself would claw someones eyes out if they told me "oh well this is your life, deal with it". You want someone to say to you "here, ill help you out of this hole, but you got to do 95% of the work yourself, you got to be brave enough and if youre not then I'm not doing it for you". She needs tough love- really really tough love- but not hating on. WE can hate her- we are the viewers, we're not her sister and mother and father. But her stupid family should try and use their pea sized brains. She wasn't born this way, was she? They have helped mold her into this vicious harpie and if they give a crap about her, then they need to make their love for her count more than their anger at her. But no one is bothering. Riya is the last person who owes her ANYTHING. I dont see why she should stick her neck out any more for this girl than she already has. She herself could have gotten badly hurt trying to rescue preeti from mohit and what thanks did she get? Yes she lied blah blah blah- but she also put herself at risk to look out for this idiot and what she got in return was kicked out of her own home. If anything riya should be angry with this idiot, not consoling her with "jo hogaya etc"- even that is too good for her. The people who SHOULD be helping her have shunned her and the one who should be fuming with her is helping her. Its all backwards. I infact think riya is being too sensitive to her in all honesty. How much more sensitive will she be now? Until she takes a chunk of her soul too?

Maybe you and I disagree on the scene/conversation interpretation between Riya and Nandu. I didn't really interpret it as a "deal" that she made with him, because I remember she was speaking to herself a while ago saying that once she has sorted out her own marriage situation she will then help Preeti's marriage. So this "deal" wasn't a deal, to me. She was just thanking nandu for helping her in whatever way he could and then she was promising him to help him after her own marriage is sorted out. It wasn't an exchange of favours- she wasn't saying to him "if you do this for me, then I will do this for you"- that's not how I interpreted it anyway. But its ok if we disagree on that- because many people will have interpreted that conversation differently. The point is- whether there was a deal OR not- riya is focussing on her own life and rightly so. And preeti needs to buck up and focus on hers instead of wasting her energy scowling and hating on the world. Yes- she needed to get angry- she needed that emotional impetus, that emotional "energy" so to speak, to get her to drive forwards in this situation, to make braver choices- but what is she doing with all that anger? Instead of using it to her advantage and making things right- she is sinking and drowning in it and getting stuck in the quicksand even more. Shes not using her anger, shes getting stuck in it. At least- no matter how STUPID we all think riya is- she is using her pain/anger/whatever you want to call it, to change her situation. Somehow. ANYTHING but grumbling and mumbling and sulking about her situation- even those stupid gaudy saris are better than her sat doing nothing whatsoever.

As for the divorce; well I was asking my hubby about that and I think I agree with you there That even before actual divorce, if the judge orders a 6 month trial period where you try and make your marriage work, that doesn't mean you can force yourself into each others' homes. It just means you work at your marriage- whether you choose to live together or apart. But you cant force yourself into another person's home- for all intents and purposes, SS does not belong to Shivam, it belongs to shanti. So only if she gives permission can riya live there. If not then she needs to find her own accommodation- but no judge could force shanti to allow riya to live there EVEN if shes still married to shivam. So yes, agree with you there- But of course this is MAM- as Maverick coined it, if we can have "Microwave Weddings" then anything is possible in this world!

And I think we all agree- or most of us do- that riya should sod them all off and stop running around after them like a headless chicken. Pick your self respect back off the SS floor and walk away. And stop wearing those sarees- its having zero effect no matter what her intentions are.

As for the clothes- well really its a moot point- because we know riya is just trying to irritate shanti and get on her nerves by dressing like that. But whats irritating US is that its having no effect and is utterly pointless and shes making an idiot out of herself the longer she dresses like that. Shes trying to get under shanti's skin and "show" that she can be just as traditional as she is- but she forgets that she cant change who she is no matter what clothes she wears.

Good discussion here with everyone! Nice to see differing opinions without biting each other's heads off haha! 😆


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Posted: 9 years ago
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Yeah, the discussions are good , its ok to agree and disagree over something
Coming to mam , Preetiya is not an angel and already so much has been said about her so I'll just skip and yeah Riya is dumb and and an idiot , she has lied a couple of times too but she isn't a coward nor she sits quietly and grumbles or blames others about the situation she's in , she trying and trying hard to come out of it , whether she's successful or not is another matter, like the philosophy says that we have control over our actions only and not over the fruits of it , so keep trying , the fruits will follow
Can we say the same about others in SS ?
The biggest coward is Shantiya , this megalomaniac always wants to be at the centre of attention, its only about her and all this plotting and scheming is a result of hallucinations about Riya intending to take away the reigns of SS , where as in reality we know Riya has never threatened Shanti like that.
Whenever Riya was at fault , she owned upto it , even when her audio recording was heard, she owned upto it and didn't make excuses and quite frankly told Shivam that it wasn't out of malice but out of deep sorrow these words came out of her mouth , which infact was true and that is what I like about Riya and then we have Preetiya ! Nothing more to say

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