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Posted: 7 years ago
#41

Originally posted by: return_to_hades

It is so refreshing and fun to read about the experiences/advice of other desis in the USA. 😊

One misconception immigrants have is that the USA is one sprawling metropolis from coast to coast. They perceive it to be some party central of some sort brimming with all sorts of debauchery. I had these misconceptions when I first moved. In reality, the United States is extremely diverse. Just like desh there are conservatives and progressives, just like desh you have urban cities and rural agricultural towns, just like desh you have the North/South aka Yankee/Confederate divide. Add to that immigrants from every corner of the globe, it's quite a mix. In fact, once in USA, all the divides of country, religion, language, and region disappear. We all collectively become desis, south Asians or brown people.

As Marscapone pointed out, many Indians are spoiled. Even middle-class Indians have servants cooking and cleaning for them. India has many other conveniences like essentials within walking distance or public commute. You do not have the luxury of servants in the USA. If you want cleaning services you pay a hefty sum. You could eat out often, but your checkbook will cry. In many ways being abroad makes Indians very independent and self-sustaining.

Another misconception that desis tend to have is that white/western girls are easy. It is a very infuriating and problematic mindset. The culture in the USA is much more open. Women have a lot more freedom to wear what they want and date. Young women are sexually active and pre-marital sex is not as much of a stigma. But that does not mean that they will put out for anyone and everyone. That does not mean sex is a bigger priority than love or romance. That does not mean they don't want relationships. Women are people and no matter what part of the world they have their dreams and desires and deserve respect.

Another thing, immigration is a great opportunity to expand horizons. It is natural to gravitate towards other desis and make friends within the community. And you should maintain strong ties with the desi community. But take the opportunity to make friends with people you won't get to mingle with back home. And I don't mean just white folks - connect with other immigrants and people of color. You will be surprised at common narratives within immigrants.



Totally agree, especially with the highlighted part!

I can understand that being forced to be self-sufficient at first can be difficult, but my mom, dad and I, all of whom were immigrants at one point, are now grateful that we know how to take care of ourselves, and look after ourselves. While it's nice to have people doing everything for us, in the end of the day it's better for people to be independent and know how to take care of themselves.

Also, a positive of living in the US is that it teaches Indian men to work harder and help out in the house. In India, barely any Indian man helps with chores. In fact, he considers it an insult to "dirty his hands", but in America, due to the heavy workload at home that women are not able to complete by themselves, many Indian women learn how to do simple tasks like doing their own laundry and washing dishes that they'd never do in India. For me, this is a definite positive.

My mom and dad do miss India at times, but they also say they could never leave the US, because they have gotten used to the freedom, independence and acceptance here. As much as they love India, and so do I, certain aspects of society make living there difficult. We go back for vacations frequently to visit family, but life there, even with its conveniences, is still pretty difficult in other ways IMO.
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Posted: 7 years ago
#42

Originally posted by: NimbuMirchi


Not everyone expects US life to be KJo movie. That's gross generalization. Most are well aware.

Some of you have Greeencard or US citizenship. And many of you are ABCD. It was easy to get GC in late 90s.. early 2000s. So you are lucky if you got it before 2010.

Trust me it's very f**ked up right now. And top it all Immigration rules are getting crazier by the day. There are many denials in H1-B extensions recently.

So, easy for some to say but life here mostly sucks for newly migrated Indians. And this I am saying when I have been here for more than 10 years.

Of course ABCDs have complete different outlook than their parents. I know my daughter will have different opinion when she grows up.


I don't know if this was referring to me, but I'm not an ABCD, as I wasn't American Born. Besides, I find that label offensive as not all Indians born or brought up in America are "confused" or without identity. In fact, there are so many organizations and clubs here that promote Hinduism and teach children from young age about their culture, and a lot of people I've grown up with shared my interest in Hindu puranas and Indian history. How many children in India today grow up learning their native tongue, or know their culture beyond the bare minimum? All my cousins' kids go to English medium schools and speak their native tongue with an accent. They neither learn English properly nor their native tongue. It's quite sad. So being confused about one's identity is not something only American Indians struggle with, but also Indians in India.

And getting greencard may have been slightly easier in 90s, but 90s immigration was not at all easy. In some ways it was more difficult, as there was more racism, more hate crimes, and less Indian population so instances of loneliness were more common. So comparing immigration then and now is unfair, as times changed for the better and worse, in different ways.
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Posted: 7 years ago
#43

ABCD American born CULTURED desi.

Why take wrong meaning of everything. I used it just to refer kids born to desi parents.

And I don't think many here are aware about the current immigration struggle. Neither can I explain.

I don't care about chores. It doesn't matter to me. I am habituated being independent. Neither am I Party animal. In fact I am not much into it. I didn't come to USA expecting roses. I have struggled my fair share in initial years and I have no complains about those. In fact I am proud.

But immigration is so stagnant right now.. it makes you frustrated.
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Posted: 7 years ago
#44


Reading a member's frustration is a realization how I have to thank my parents and what they have done for me in this country.

My experience I am too American for Nepali folks and too "desi" for Americans .I discovered my foothold but it seems people are unsure.
Edited by Mrs.Peanuts - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: ..RamKiJanaki..


I don't know if this was referring to me, but I'm not an ABCD, as I wasn't American Born. Besides, I find that label offensive as not all Indians born or brought up in America are "confused" or without identity. In fact, there are so many organizations and clubs here that promote Hinduism and teach children from young age about their culture, and a lot of people I've grown up with shared my interest in Hindu puranas and Indian history. How many children in India today grow up learning their native tongue, or know their culture beyond the bare minimum? All my cousins' kids go to English medium schools and speak their native tongue with an accent. They neither learn English properly nor their native tongue. It's quite sad. So being confused about one's identity is not something only American Indians struggle with, but also Indians in India.

And getting greencard may have been slightly easier in 90s, but 90s immigration was not at all easy. In some ways it was more difficult, as there was more racism, more hate crimes, and less Indian population so instances of loneliness were more common. So comparing immigration then and now is unfair, as times changed for the better and worse, in different ways.

lol i live in.india . I went to english medium school that taught my native tongue too. I reas puranas and other scriptures. I know a lot of them.who.do that. Not all of us have servants at home. We do our own shopping .

Sorry to say but stop painting NRIs as great and people who.live in India as petty.
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Posted: 7 years ago
#46
Gaaw the essays ! 😲
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Posted: 7 years ago
#47
I wouldn't trade my life in USA for anything...neither would I trade my time in India for anything...India is an amazing country and so is USA...love both my birth country and my adopted motherland...so proud to be a part of the two greatest democracies in the world.❤️
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: blue-ice.

I wouldn't trade my life in USA for anything...neither would I trade my time in India for anything...India is an amazing country and so is USA...love both my birth country and my adopted motherland...so proud to be a part of the two greatest democracies in the world.❤️



We have one more land which is forumland which we all love to be part of ..😆
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Posted: 7 years ago
#49

Originally posted by: fivestars



We have one more land which is forumland which we all love to be part of ..😆


ha ha ha...Preep ji at her wittiest best👏...satyavachan🤣
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Self Service/dependency is the issue here, although you learn a lot. People here are friendly, respectful, helpful, disciplined and fear the law. They mind their own business. Personally, I prefer few things in our Indian culture, as I have experienced quite a few cultural shocks here. Loads of opportunities here to earn a living.
Hats off to previous Presidents till the era of George Washington and Americans in general for making America what it is today.
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