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Posted: 3 years ago
#31

Originally posted by: DaffodilsNew

You can forgive if your partner decides to get drunk alone in a room wid an ex ???

Yepp Raghav's situation doesn't seem like cheating to me. There is already so much discussion on the forum on whether raghav cheated or not. I am a day late to the forum and do not have anything new to add 🤷.


I understand this is the not answer you were expecting 😀 and yours could be different. I respect that.


Okkk

Yeah who gets an ex to their house. Ghar hai care centre nai

Also if this is how people in real would behave.....a lot of people would be forced to marry such people who blackmail by harming themselves.

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Originally posted by: BrhannadaArmour

This question, which was well-phrased, reminds me of an interview in which the interviewer's question was not so well-phrased: "Raghav and Pallavi are now facing a challenge from Mandar who even tried to kill his mother for a woman - I mean, I thought, what kind of man does that? What is your personal view?" My impression is that she was asking, Mandar is so unscrupulous; how will Raghav and Pallavi fight back? But Sai Ketan Rao answered as if she was asking, what do you personally think about matricide? "It's only a fictional show, but I think it is very bad."

Thing about Sai is that he doesnt know how to articulate . Also I feel he is kinda new at these interviews and doesnt know how to frame an instantaneous answer for such questions. So he just takes the easy way out and says if its ryt or wrong.


Likewise, my opinion is: of course, adultery is bad when it's a betrayal. Monogamy isn't for everyone, and I don't want to shame anyone's sexual expression, but if you promise to be faithful to someone, you should mean it and treat your partner with respect. Some couples renegotiate their marriages (e.g. you can openly visit your paramour, but we'll raise the kids together), and other couples say that cuckolding brings them closer. I feel sorry for anyone who feels pressure to compromise on fidelity to keep a relationship going, but I can also respect someone who doesn't cheat in secret but says, "I want more out of life, so let me out of my promise," and deals with the consequences.

Understable. Especially agree with the last statement.


I have no single or simple answer for what I would do personally; it would depend on my quality of life with or without the cheater. I can too often tell when someone is being dishonest with me (e.g. falsified scientific evidence, plagiarism, flattery, overcharging), and sometimes I have to confront on principle, but if I can manage not to make the cheater cry, I have a better day.

Its true. It does depend on whether or not you prefer the life widout the person in it.


As for a fictional show, my motivation is escapism. I enjoy pretending that there are characters who are too good for infidelity. For example, on Sundara Manamadhe Bharali (a Marathi daily drama), when Kamini stole the maṅgalasūtra that Abhimanyu was going to give to Latika, and told Latika that he gave it to her, Latika just scoffed, "Śakyaca nāhī (just not possible)," and kept walking. Latika had no idea that her husband had fallen in love with her, and she thought Kamini might be his type, but she felt confident that he would never behave shamelessly. That depth of trust in someone is magical. Another dialogue that I found magical: Nandini said to Abhimanyu, "Just to give Latika a jolt, I told her, if you actually divorce Abhimanyu, there will be girls lined up for him, and don't be surprised if I'm at the end of the line!" and Abhimanyu's reaction was, "There isn't any girl going after me." He knew very well that Kamini is making a fool of herself for him, but in his world, only Latika desiring him is significant.


While I find thoughtless betrayal distasteful, I won't pretend that I'm opposed to a married character looking outside for a strong reason. I'm writing a fan fiction in which Pallavi leaves Raghav and says yes to Mandar, who is secretly gay and desires Farhad mutually, but wants to protect Pallavi from Raghav. I'm curious - does anyone find my story obscene?

I hv no clue about the show you are talking about . So cant really comment on dt.


About the fanfiction. I dont find the concept obscene but I hvnt read it.....so cant comment on dt either.

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Posted: 3 years ago
#33

Originally posted by: Ruhi.007

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No no its not about what answer I was expecting.

But yeah it did surprise me.

I am not saying just abt Raghav though. I mean if your partner willfully gets drunk wid his ex in a hotel room.......anything might happen.....like anything. Here yes Esha took advantage . But in a drunk state you might actually end up having a consensual sexual encounter and in that case you wont be able to place the blame on anyone else. Dts just one example. Many other things could hv happened. One might actually get framed for much worse things like murder.

My point is when you are with an ex .......is it okay to be dt irresponsible ? More importantly I was surprised dt you would be okay with dt kind of irresponsibilty.


Dts all.

Its a personal choice I understand.

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Originally posted by: DaffodilsNew

Dts something dt I dont understand either.......when Mandar track was not well received by the audience , then why introduce another track just like dt ,dt too back to back. There isnt even much of a difference between the two tracks. Mandar wanted Pallavi back and here Esha wants Raghav back. This isnt arrogance or confidence......this is lack of creativity. Story telling is an art and Sikcand surely lacks the skills.

He is seeking revenge…he wanted to present Mandar track in a certain way…it didn’t work, Trp dropped probably due to channel pressure he had to change the track..now that the show is in a dead slot he wants to show what he wanted in a severe way.. sometime he makes me feel that he doesn’t like Raghav Rao…they say he wanted to present Raghav as per original version a roadside gunda..but channel insisted on making Raghav the brooding rich Don…Sai put his heart and soul to make it iconic, looks like this didn’t go well…there is some kind of an ego clash…the channel gives promos and appreciates the fans and he comes and tells people to use the remote…who does this to their own product.


I feel bad for Sai too. So much effort has gone into making of RR. A character comes to life when an actor dedicates that much into potraying it. Now all dt effort has been ruined in one go.

I feel bad for him, he breathes Raghav Rao, he is so emotional about it…there is only so much you can explain about a character trait in paper and if the actor doesn’t portray it convincingly, it will fall flat this is were Sai excelled, he rose above the script to make Raghav Rao iconic and he promoted it so well making it so popular in such a short time.. he must be surely hurt…

But I would want him to not to take it emotionally..after all the actors job is to perform varied roles which will enhance their performance..he should chin up and rock this shade of Raghav too like a boss…criticism is for the character not him


Sikcand says he doesnt care abt audience. Has given them the choice to use the remote. I would like to know for whom does he make the show den ? I mean this doesnt look like the story of a writer who just wanted to tell his story whatever be the consequences. On one hand they want trps and modify story accordingly and on the other hand they say they dont care abt audience opinion.

He doesn’t look interested anymore..channel looks more keen than him…there is a certain pattern…they deliberately tone down Raghav Pallavi intense/romantic scenes…see the BTS we know they shoot it intensely we can feel the emotions in BTS and in the episode the scenes are either flat or toned down badly…like you have such a good looking couple with an awesome chemistry that can give that extra mileage to the show and he doesn’t utilize them…but when it comes to lead with third angle they go on to show it elaborately and even cringe.. we don’t get 5 minutes intense conversations of Raghav Pallavi but 2 episodes of Raghu Esha, same approach in the Mandar track too.. they deliberately cut the precaps in a certain way to rile up the fans…what kind of a marketing is this…it’s a very difficult to understand his thoughts..

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Edited by Anu1975 - 3 years ago
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Posted: 3 years ago
#35

DaffodilsNew wrote:

Thing about Sai is that he doesnt know how to articulate . Also I feel he is kinda new at these interviews and doesnt know how to frame an instantaneous answer for such questions. So he just takes the easy way out and says if its ryt or wrong.

It wasn't my intention to criticize Sai Ketan Rao. He tried to answer what he heard, without saying anything that could be quoted out of context against him. I wouldn't handle a rambling question so well on the spot.

Going off-topic now, sorry!

It would be nice if he and other actors only gave interviews to media that don't spread false news about the show, and the questions would be agreed upon beforehand. I suppose he or his management are making the most of every opportunity, but then he gets questions that he shouldn't have to answer. (Are you happy with the story? When do you behave like your character? How well do you know Shivangi Khedkar? How's your knowledge of Bollywood trivia? Would you date a fan? Gay men approaching you is awkward, right?) He gets treated like a plaything rather than a professional sometimes.

I have never heard any interviewer ask him these questions about his craft: "How was the character of Luṅgīvālā Raghav explained to you? What choices did you make in terms of body language and voice to make him different from Raghav? Have you ever had the chance to act two roles in the same scene before - in theatre, for example? How is it different for TV? How does the team help you with these scenes?" Or, "Now that you know the music that is matched to your walk, do you walk differently? Are your boxing skills useful for the fight scenes? Does it feel strange to swing your arms out wide? How do you decide how much crying to do in a particular scene?"

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Posted: 3 years ago
#36

Originally posted by: Merly

It can depends dear

If you know you partner is cheating on you continues then good bye and move on with own life.

If you partner did it by mistake and you believe he/ she is loyal from then on i say give it a chance .

In todays world relationship has become a name only to show but ones who believe and take it seriously always shined in life ..

No one is perfect all of us do mistakes in life so accept each other with mistakes and stand strong together (magic which i saw in my parents who still fight like LKG kids 😆 )


So you are saying dt if the cheating is a one time thing you will agree to forget abt it but if the cheating continues.....you move on.

Okayy

Good on you. Guess you are a forgiving person .

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Posted: 3 years ago
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So you are saying dt if the cheating is a one time thing you will agree to forget abt it but if the cheating continues.....you move on.

Okayy

Good on you. Guess you are a forgiving person .


Can i put a question back to you , if you cheat unknowing once ,do you not want your partner / hubby to forgive instead run away from the love of your life ???

Whom you love, adore , respect is with you standing to forgive then why not

All are not perfect we make perfect life together .. ❤️ ( which is never an easy path )

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Originally posted by: Merly


So you are saying dt if the cheating is a one time thing you will agree to forget abt it but if the cheating continues.....you move on.

Okayy

Good on you. Guess you are a forgiving person .


Can i put a question back to you , if you cheat unknowing once ,do you not want your partner / hubby to forgive instead run away from the love of your life ???

Whom you love, adore , respect is with you standing to forgive then why not

All are not perfect we make perfect life together .. ❤️ ( which is never an easy path )


How does one cheat unknowingly ??? How is dt possible ?

R u trying to say like in Raghav's case ?

Well I do not consider dt cheating. Esha did take advantage of his uncinscious state but Yes I do blame Raghav for landing up in dt situation. He willingly in all his senses decided to get drunk wid his ex in a room , knowing very well she had feelings foe him. If I was in Pallavi's place I would not be able to forgive or forget.


If you meant some other situation, pls give an example. Bcz I dont understand how cheating can be done unknowingly.


Having said all that.....you and me are different person. I understand you may be more forgiving kind of person....which I admire. But I am not.

To answer your question , No I cannot forgive the person who cheats on me. For me infidelity /cheating is a deal breaker. There are more important things in life than love....for me. I value trust ,respect and my own self respect above love. So No I wont forgive even its a one time thing.

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Posted: 3 years ago
#39

Originally posted by: euphoric

To each its own.


But it's absolutely couple dynamics in their situations and circumstances. Honesty and truth are very important in any relationship n not just between partners. People fall in and out of love at the drop of the hat today. Play behind backs and make a mockery of their partners and relationships. Which is absolutely not worth. So I would still respect two people who are honest enough to accept their shenanigans and mutually decide to share a roof than over someone who chooses to live a dual life.


For me trust is important in any relationship. Initial love will always fly out of the window when the rainbow subsides and challenges of life befalls. It is mutual understanding and the faith in your partner that will help one to go a long way. Therefore I hate lying and fake promises. These factors r termites and no matter how deep the love be, they are going to chew on the foundations causing the structures to fall. This is my problem with Raghav too here. His actions are the time bomb waiting to blow away the foundations of everything he has built with Pallavi.


Personally I am a kind of a person who will not be okay with infidelity no matter physical or emotional. It IS a deal breaker and I am NOT okay with it.


However, emotional infidelity is more dangerous than physical one I believe coz emotional gaps acc to me always get filled with toxicity which suffocates either one or both the partners.


But then again, it's easier to see and comment being an outsider. Being into a situation is probably a completely different thing and no one knows how s/he will actually react when in a spot. Feelings, emotions, level of involvement and at times societal pressure make people act completely out of their basic nature and one can never understand the underlying motivations. That's why I would not want to judge anyone's choices and actions.


It's important to remember that we built an idealistic world in our heads, however, we don't stay in one!

Love your take on the subject.

I cant disagree to anything you said.


Absolutely agree wid what you said abt emotional infidelity. Physical infidelity can for once be tagged a mistake but emotional attachment is something that you cannot just push away as a one time thing. It slowly eats away the foundation of a relationship.

Though personally I am not okay wid either .


Again what you said abt ideal and realistic is something I really liked. Yes I do believe until and unless we are in the same shoes as the other person....we do not know how we will react. But I do believe some of our reactions do stem from what our beliefs or stands are.

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