Thoughts about today's episode

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Today's episode was such an eye-opener esp from the perspective of where Pallavi thinks her relationship with Raghav stands in her life and where it actually stands. Her words to Raghav were haunting, as they only futher underlined how misplaced her love and loyalty is.


If the writing was nuanced, there is scope to write such compelling scenes showcasing Pallavi's trauma and her internalising the fact that she has been cheated upon by the man she unconditionally loved and lived for.


It's strange how drastically the story can change in a matter of couple of episodes. Just a while back it seemed like Raghav would die without Pallavi and now it feels like he doesn't even love her.


Perhaps it's being too naive to expect anything from makers in this regard, but I still sincerely hope that Pallavi would be shown to take a dignified stance and will choose to walk away from this marriage.

Really doesn't matter how "guilty" or "innocent" Raghav actually is as far sleeping with his ex is concerned, he is dishonest and hypocritical to the core.

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Posted: 3 years ago
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I agree to disagree with your views after having watched the episode today.


I can literally see the guilt that is eating Raghav due to which he wasn't able to drive, he stopped almost short of an accident and sat in the middle of the road holding his heart.


He's so hurting right now that he cheated on Pallavi, his Pallavi, the woman he loves with all his heart. His conversation with Lungi wala Raghav is so clear that he rather die than face Pallavi. That's the amount of guilt he feels right now.


At home, he couldn't bear to see her eyes and wasn't able to give her any comfort when she hugged him. He felt disgusted at himself. This is the same man who has always comforted Pallavi in their hugs. If Pallavi is suffering, so is Raghav.


I'm not condoning his act of hiding the truth from her coz it's wrong. Pallavi deserves to know the truth and he's taking away her agency to decide what she wants to do. Having said that, I also understand why Raghav is hiding the truth. He wants to save her from the hurt he has caused but he doesn't realise he's going to hurt her anyway.


Also, like you said today we got to see Pallavi's feeling for Raghav vocalised. She said she can live without herself but not without him. She's going to stay back, may be give him a silent treatment but won't leave him - this is my assessment of how this is going to go forward.


As much as anyone would like her to leave, she will chose to stay with him after knowing the truth and I will respect her choice.


Raghav made mistakes but he didn't cheat on Pallavi. He deserves to face consequences for the mistakes he made but he didn't cheat on her.


It's a highly polarized situation and I know how skewed opinions are formed. I was highly conflicted myself coz I love them both.

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Originally posted by: beguiling

Today's episode was such an eye-opener esp from the perspective of where Pallavi thinks her relationship with Raghav stands in her life and where it actually stands. Her words to Raghav were haunting, as they only futher underlined how misplaced her love and loyalty is.


If the writing was nuanced, there is scope to write such compelling scenes showcasing Pallavi's trauma and her internalising the fact that she has been cheated upon by the man she unconditionally loved and lived for.

I wish they do, I am sincerely hoping for it…I want to see her emotional turmoil after she gets to know that the man she can’t live without only cheated her in a moment of weakness but also took her emotions, her pain her suffering her life’s choices, her right to decide everything for granted…

They never show her emotional side coz they alway presented her as an emotionally strong person but I am in no mood to buy that this time…this should break her if this doesn’t I will declare her as an Alien and quit the show…


It's strange how drastically the story can change in a matter of couple of episodes. Just a while back it seemed like Raghav would die without Pallavi and now it feels like he doesn't even love her.


Perhaps it's being too naive to expect anything from makers in this regard, but I still sincerely hope that Pallavi would be shown to take a dignified stance and will choose to walk away from this marriage.

Even I am wary about it but still hoping to see her take a stand for herself and walk away from him…a relationship doesn’t work on love alone if it is not weighed up with respect trust integrity & honesty.. right now he destroyed everything..

Really doesn't matter how "guilty" or "innocent" Raghav actually is as far sleeping with his ex is concerned, he is dishonest and hypocritical to the core.

It doesn’t matter neither now nor in future, whatever he has done so far is nothing less than betrayal at multiple levels coupled with selfishness, insensitivity & dishonesty…

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Originally posted by: joliefemme

I agree to disagree with your views after having watched the episode today.


I can literally see the guilt that is eating Raghav due to which he wasn't able to drive, he stopped almost short of an accident and sat in the middle of the road holding his heart.


He's so hurting right now that he cheated on Pallavi, his Pallavi, the woman he loves with all his heart. His conversation with Lungi wala Raghav is so clear that he rather die than face Pallavi. That's the amount of guilt he feels right now.


At home, he couldn't bear to see her eyes and wasn't able to give her any comfort when she hugged him. He felt disgusted at himself. This is the same man who has always comforted Pallavi in their hugs. If Pallavi is suffering, so is Raghav.


I'm not condoning his act of hiding the truth from her coz it's wrong. Pallavi deserves to know the truth and he's taking away her agency to decide what she wants to do. Having said that, I also understand why Raghav is hiding the truth. He wants to save her from the hurt he has caused but he doesn't realise he's going to hurt her anyway.


Also, like you said today we got to see Pallavi's feeling for Raghav vocalised. She said she can live without herself but not without him. She's going to stay back, may be give him a silent treatment but won't leave him - this is my assessment of how this is going to go forward.


As much as anyone would like her to leave, she will chose to stay with him after knowing the truth and I will respect her choice.


Raghav made mistakes but he didn't cheat on Pallavi. He deserves to face consequences for the mistakes he made but he didn't cheat on her.


It's a highly polarized situation and I know how skewed opinions are formed. I was highly conflicted myself coz I love them both.

This is for you. 🤗

Thank you for such a simple, coherent and unbiased post.

I am glad you watched the episode and came to your own conclusion. I totally agree that he needs to come clean, I'd give him a couple of days at max to gather his wits because I get that he can't think straight (I thought he was about to have a heart attack on the road, he was that much in shock). 😲

It's a messy situation right now and the whole point of this track is precisely to show this kind of conflict. I am feeling really bad for Pallavi knowing what she doesn't know yet and what's coming up and I would respect whatever she chooses and would never want to see her compromise her happiness and self-respect. I am also hurting for Raghav because of his current state because he has to choose between a rock and a hard place and right now can't even think clearly enough. I want him to learn from this and resolve not to fall into the same pit again due to his wrong decisions.

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Originally posted by: inlieu

This is for you. 🤗

Thank you for such a simple, coherent and unbiased post.

I am glad you watched the episode and came to your own conclusion. I totally agree that he needs to come clean, I'd give him a couple of days at max to gather his wits because I get that he can't think straight (I thought he was about to have a heart attack on the road, he was that much in shock). 😲

It's a messy situation right now and the whole point of this track is precisely to show this kind of conflict. I am feeling really bad for Pallavi knowing what she doesn't know yet and what's coming up but I am also hurting for Raghav because of his current states. I want him to learn from this and resolve not to fall into the same pit again due to his wrong decisions.


For you too 🤗


You know how I've been having conflicting opinions off late but the first 30 seconds when I saw Raghav's turmoil and reflect back on how much he loves her, I realised isko 100 khoon maaf hai.


I'm a Raghvi fan and I love both of them but I cried for Raghav in the first 30 seconds. He's made mistakes and he'll pay a heavy price. He doesn't deserve to lose the love of his life for this. Pallavi is very practical and she'll realise eventually that it was a set up. She's going to stand by him.


I know Pallavi deserves an honest husband so I really hope he is able to muster up the courage to come clean to her. It's not going to be easy but I wish he trusts his love and their relationship to be able to be fair to her. He needs to give her a choice to decide.


I am going to cry for Pallavi when the truth breaks her as well. We are in for a lot of pain in the coming episodes... Shitttt

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Originally posted by: joliefemme


For you too 🤗


You know how I've been having conflicting opinions off late but the first 30 seconds when I saw Raghav's turmoil and reflect back on how much he loves her, I realised isko 100 khoon maaf hai.


I'm a Raghvi fan and I love both of them but I cried for Raghav in the first 30 seconds. He's made mistakes and he'll pay a heavy price. He doesn't deserve to lose the love of his life for this. Pallavi is very practical and she'll realise eventually that it was a set up. She's going to stand by him.


I know Pallavi deserves an honest husband so I really hope he is able to muster up the courage to come clean to her. It's not going to be easy but I wish he trusts his love and their relationship to be able to be fair to her. He needs to give her a choice to decide.


I am going to cry for Pallavi when the truth breaks her as well. We are in for a lot of pain in the coming episodes... Shitttt

I had the same internal debate in my head but when I stepped back and watched the episodes objectively it was pretty clear to me what was happening.

The value of trust for me is when it is there in the absence of evidence (Pallavi's case) and when people choose to put their fears and vulnerabilities aside and believe in their partner (Raghav's case, hopefully).

@bold, this scene was so clear and explicit that you can't be in doubt about his emotions and state of mind. I can't imagine being in his place and I thought he'd have a heart attack on the spot. He really wanted to die rather than live with the knowledge of what (he thinks) he has done.

Yes, Pallavi is practical and she will stand by him, I think. She might feel heartbroken at first but when she tries to analyze the situation she might be able to see the full picture eventually. She should be able to decide, exactly.

I'm hurting for both of them right now. Such a horrible situation to be in, especially seeing how there's been non-stop turmoil in their lives and now this. 😔

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Originally posted by: inlieu

I had the same internal debate in my head but when I stepped back and watched the episodes objectively it was pretty clear to me what was happening.

The value of trust for me is when it is there in the absence of evidence (Pallavi's case) and when people choose to put their fears and vulnerabilities aside and believe in their partner (Raghav's case, hopefully).

@bold, this scene was so clear and explicit that you can't be in doubt about his emotions and state of mind. I can't imagine being in his place and I thought he'd have a heart attack on the spot. He really wanted to die rather than live with the knowledge of what (he thinks) he has done.

Yes, Pallavi is practical and she will stand by him, I think. She might feel heartbroken at first but when she tries to analyze the situation she might be able to see the full picture eventually. She should be able to decide, exactly.

I'm hurting for both of them right now. Such a horrible situation to be in, especially seeing how there's been non-stop turmoil in their lives and now this. 😔


I know since my emotions are also all over the place but I will place my trust in Raghav same as Pallavi's trust in him. He genuinely loves her and he will come around. We need to hang in for a week or two and things will get better.

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I agree to disagree with your views after having watched the episode today.

I can literally see the guilt that is eating Raghav due to which he wasn't able to drive, he stopped almost short of an accident and sat in the middle of the road holding his heart.

He's so hurting right now that he cheated on Pallavi, his Pallavi, the woman he loves with all his heart. His conversation with Lungi wala Raghav is so clear that he rather die than face Pallavi. That's the amount of guilt he feels right now.

At home, he couldn't bear to see her eyes and wasn't able to give her any comfort when she hugged him. He felt disgusted at himself. This is the same man who has always comforted Pallavi in their hugs. If Pallavi is suffering, so is Raghav.

I can understand Raghav's guilt, can also understand why he kept pushing Pallavi away. But honestly, Raghav is suffering because of his own actions whereas Pallavi is suffering for no fault of hers (Or perhaps for trusting a man who keeps on lying to her)


Raghav made wrong choices to drink, stay in that room with his ex, I won't deny any of that and Pallavi is the absolute innocent party here but it still doesnt change the role Esha played in all of this. I agree lying about what happened makes him look more guilty and that's the reason I hope she gets to know the truth from him and not anyone else. I'm not saying he shouldn't suffer, he absolutely should. He should witness her breakdown to realise what he's done, how else will he grow, he needs that big jolt.


I'm not condoning his act of hiding the truth from her coz it's wrong. Pallavi deserves to know the truth and he's taking away her agency to decide what she wants to do. Having said that, I also understand why Raghav is hiding the truth. He wants to save her from the hurt he has caused but he doesn't realise he's going to hurt her anyway.

I think he is hiding the truth because he knows confessing it would be the end of their relationship. Which is what Lungi wala Raghav was telling him as well and Raghav like before is acting on that advice of his alter ego.


The reason he's hiding it is because he knows how much she loves him and how she'll break when she gets to know the truth. That's the conversation he had with LWR today.

He has a lot of insecurities and abandonment issues so he may be wants to hold on to her (not condoning). He'll tell her the truth because the guilt is also eating at him.

Also, like you said today we got to see Pallavi's feeling for Raghav vocalised. She said she can live without herself but not without him. She's going to stay back, may be give him a silent treatment but won't leave him - this is my assessment of how this is going to go forward.

She's gonna stay back coz this is a story about Raghav and Pallavi and in some convoluted manner they would show how Raghav was tricked into believing he slept with Esha. The rest of it will be forgiven and forgotten.


She's going to stay back because she loves him and knows he loves her as well. Raghav didn't sleep with Esha. It's a trap. He hasn't cheated on Pallavi. I agree they are going to pin this on Esha but isn't that what really happened. He was sloshed and she came close to him when he toom Pallavi's name in his inebriated state. For the mistakes he's done, he's going to suffer and repent and grow.


As much as anyone would like her to leave, she will chose to stay with him after knowing the truth and I will respect her choice.

Quite honestly, it's just something that happens far too often. Women forgive. I would have loved for MHRW to take a different route but I know it wouldn't.


He has not cheated on her and he was trapped, that will make it easier for Pallavi to forgive this incident and move on with Raghav. If he had cheated on her, I would love that she leaves with her self respect but here the situation is completely different. It's not because Mhrw is a love story and Raghvi are end game, it's because he didn't cheat on Pallavi (he made mistakes).


Raghav made mistakes but he didn't cheat on Pallavi. He deserves to face consequences for the mistakes he made but he didn't cheat on her.

We have a very different outlook on what we consider as cheating. The way I look at it, he did cheat. And continues to do so by not letting her know what transpired in the hotel room.


Yes I have a completely different view. I look at his intentions rather than his actions. He did a lot of things he should not have done that night but he didn't want to cheat on Pallavi. He's lying to her because he's afraid and he deserves jhadu ki pitai for that. He'll eventually tell her the truth (or so I hope). Had Esha not gone near him, kuch nai hota. Human emotions are complex and everyone has different threshold and tolerance limits. I can understand your views and respect them but I stand by mine.


It's a highly polarized situation and I know how skewed opinions are formed. I was highly conflicted myself coz I love them both.

I would have loved to not feel the way I do about Raghav and Pallavi's relationship right now.

My heart went out to Pallavi when she was asking Raghav to let her have that mann ki tassalli by holding him. She loves him way too much and deserves nothing but to be showered back with all the more love in return.

Only for her sake, I so wish Raghav proves to be the man, we and Pallavi fell in love with.


I also hope he trusts his love and tells Pallavi the truth. She deserves to know it from him. He needs to believe their relationship can survive this obstacle. I'm going to cry for Pallavi when he rejects her advances and also when she hears the truth. Raghvi fan hone jaise paap hai aajkal. You're crying for both.

Edited by joliefemme - 3 years ago
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Posted: 3 years ago
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Originally posted by: beguiling

Today's episode was such an eye-opener esp from the perspective of where Pallavi thinks her relationship with Raghav stands in her life and where it actually stands. Her words to Raghav were haunting, as they only futher underlined how misplaced her love and loyalty is.


If the writing was nuanced, there is scope to write such compelling scenes showcasing Pallavi's trauma and her internalising the fact that she has been cheated upon by the man she unconditionally loved and lived for.


It's strange how drastically the story can change in a matter of couple of episodes. Just a while back it seemed like Raghav would die without Pallavi and now it feels like he doesn't even love her.


Perhaps it's being too naive to expect anything from makers in this regard, but I still sincerely hope that Pallavi would be shown to take a dignified stance and will choose to walk away from this marriage.

Really doesn't matter how "guilty" or "innocent" Raghav actually is as far sleeping with his ex is concerned, he is dishonest and hypocritical to the core.

@bold: I know many people are in fence when it comes to “ did the deed happen or not”…

My personal opinion is they DID unless they come up with something in specific in future to negate it…as of now there is no reason to believe it did not happen..

Raghav didn’t fully pass out..he was still in a semi conscious state…

He was conscious enough to feel Esha’s touch and when she pulls away her hand on hearing Pallavi…he himself holds it back and pulls her towards him and invites her for intimacy…yes he was imagining Pallavi here…my point is he was conscious enough to feel the person next to him, imagine another and initiate/ accept intimacy…This is where Esha crosses the line…and the last hand gesture, she holds him and he tightened the grip..so he was a consensual participant in a semi conscious state till that point.. he also remembers it the next morning proves that he didn’t completely pass out…

They can come up with something in future to imply that he didn’t proceed or respond after that but that’s a hypothetical situation…as of now both believe they did and there is no reason not to believe them..

Personally, it holds no importance for me to hold him accountable for the betrayal..

Edited by Anu1975 - 3 years ago
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Posted: 3 years ago
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I will say this


sometimes taking a stand for yourself and walking away is not the solution FOR YOURSELF


if Pallavi truly cannot imagine her life without raghav, she will hate him for what he did but her heart won’t let her leave him



And that’s her life and her decision, she doesn’t HAVE to leave him


just because we want her to leave and move on doesn’t mean she can do that


emotionally it’s a hard decision to make, and we’re naming raghav as a cheater and hypocrite right now but so many women stay with their spouses after cheating because they EMOTIONALLY cannot move forward


that’s why I feel like Pallavi might not leave him, she’s too attached to him and her heart won’t let her, which is perfectly alright because it’s what SHE WANTS


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