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Originally posted by: Chiillii

Vichitraveerya is supposed to have died from pthsis a few months after his marriage.

Pthisis also known as consumption is what Tuberculosis was called in ancient times.

TB is a wasting disease. It slowly eats up your lung. And the process happens over a few years. It doesnt happen in days or weeks.

One theory is VV was already sufferring from pthisis, that Satyavati and HP tried to hide. But somehow rumors circulated and that is why Kashi did not invite HP for swayamvar.

Because pthisis/TB is contagious through body fluids. Hence marriage cannot be consummated.

Bhishma.still went and kidnapped the girls. To get them.married as formality to his step brother, so that the wives could have children through niyog. One major reason again why Salwa refused Amba, her virginty carried a question mark..

So Vyasa was already in the picture and niyog planned for VVs wives.

Second theory is.

If this was not pre existing condition hidden by satyavati then.VV cannot have this disease. He must have been poisoned. Because this disease takes couple of years to kill, but symptoms emerge as soon as a person is infected

It IS kind of convenient how all the able-bodied men of the family die. Perhaps one of the reasons Kunti kept her kids away?

One other thing which is kind of puzzling is how niyog is described as a one-night deal.

Ambika-Ambalika, Kunti-Madri, etc.

Originally posted by: HearMeRoar

One other thing which is kind of puzzling is how niyog is described as a one-night deal.

Ambika-Ambalika, Kunti-Madri, etc.

It can definitely not be a one night deal. Definitely girls had to visit the biological father multiple times(except maybe in case of Karna's birth who wasn't a Niyog child or Vidur who might have been sent after being irritated by repeatedly going there). But I guess they couldn't have mentioned the details of each night.

Coming to Kunti keeping her children away, I doubt she ever attempted to do that, it was mostly that it somehow happened.

And then Dhratrashtras were able bodied and died in their late forties/early fifties in a battlefield that I don't think can be considered a wrong death

Talking about sutasoma. He comes across as the most ferocious upandavas in the war parvas. While bhuddhisht jatka paints him entirely different. Why such disparity ??

http://ignca.gov.in/coilnet/jatak063.htm

Originally posted by: Krishnapanchali

Talking about sutasoma. He comes across as the most ferocious upandavas in the war parvas. While bhuddhisht jatka paints him entirely different. Why such disparity ??

http://ignca.gov.in/coilnet/jatak063.htm

Sutasoma is also another big problem in the epic

1. He is named sutasoma, because he was born to Bhima and Draupadi after Bhima completed 1000 soma yagyas.

2. But in Vanaparva, after Arjun returns from Swarga, he takes the jewellery that was given to him by Indra to Draupadi, the love of his life and mother of Sutasoma.

Why is Draupadi addressed as Arjun's love of his life and mother of sutasoma

Why not as mother of Shrutasena.

She cant be Arjun's love of his.life and mother of Bhima's son in the same sentence

Originally posted by: Chiillii

Sutasoma is also another big problem in the epic

1. He is named sutasoma, because he was born to Bhima and Draupadi after Bhima completed 1000 soma yagyas.

2. But in Vanaparva, after Arjun returns from Swarga, he takes the jewellery that was given to him by Indra to Draupadi, the love of his life and mother of Sutasoma.

Why is Draupadi addressed as Arjun's love of his life and mother of sutasoma

Why not as mother of Shrutasena.

She cant be Arjun's love of his.life and mother of Bhima's son in the same sentence

Shouldn't it be suthakriti?? He was arjuna drapaudi son right ?? Or i am mixing up

In one of the war parvas probably in bhism parva sutasoma is said to Arjuna son while at the other places he is referred to as bhima s son. Its quite shutrasena.

I have checked the sanskrit texts... They all have

prītaḥ priyāyai suta somamātre

Arjun's beloved, suta soma's mother.

The person being talked about is Arjun because he is giving the jewellery

And names cant have confusion because

Suta soma was named so for bhima's 1000 soma yagyas

Srutakirti was named so for Arjun!s conquests of the exile, khandavdahan and rajasuya , named so because of the fame that was heard every where for Arjun. Shruta (heard) Kirti (fame) of Arjun

Yes. that verse says Sutasoma. I don't know why except maybe Sutasoma was Arjuna's fav nephew?😆

Originally posted by: HearMeRoar

Yes. that verse says Sutasoma. I don't know why except maybe Sutasoma was Arjuna's fav nephew?😆

Wait why nephew ?? Shouldn't it be son since all of them were panchali s husbands.

Originally posted by: Chiillii

Sutasoma is also another big problem in the epic

1. He is named sutasoma, because he was born to Bhima and Draupadi after Bhima completed 1000 soma yagyas.

2. But in Vanaparva, after Arjun returns from Swarga, he takes the jewellery that was given to him by Indra to Draupadi, the love of his life and mother of Sutasoma.

Why is Draupadi addressed as Arjun's love of his life and mother of sutasoma

Why not as mother of Shrutasena.

She cant be Arjun's love of his.life and mother of Bhima's son in the same sentence

That's not a big reason. They were writing a poem. The words which suited with the flow, which rhymed was used.

Maybe in that line Shrusena mattered more than Sutsoma