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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: Medha.S

And what good did it do them to be called Gods children? What kind of advantage did they got from it? And if we are going by, they were 'believed' to be gods children by the citizens for Kuntis and their own benefit -- not because they were Gods children -- just myth --- then there is that, same applies for Karna. who knows who Karnas real father was and if his kavach was invincible or not -- the only father to him was Adhiratha like the only father Pandavas had was Pandu -- not the mythical sun god who is usually believed to be Karna's Father and other gods who are believed to be Pandavas fathers?


And I am not familiar with the techniques of cheating you can apply during dice and the text doesnt mentioned it either, so i am left guessing.But Shakuni used 'Unfair Means' over and over and over and over again, at least that is clearly mentioned so there is that.
If the citation doesnt mention the kind of cheating techniques Shakuni was using, well, I cant do anything about that.

Just curious to know ...So you think that pandavas were not Gods children ? as suggested by texts .. You think it was a 'Myth' ?
What do you mean who knows who Karna's father was...😲? Is this not mentioned in KMG ..that Karna was sun's son..😕.. since you believe so much in citations... are you having doubts on it..😳
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: Medha.S


Because the 100 Kauravas didn't fell in love with the same woman at the same time?


hmm that is adharm rt .. , lusting on their sister in law ...
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: riti4u

Just curious to know ...So you think that pandavas were not Gods children ? as suggested by texts .. You think it was a 'Myth' ?
What do you mean who knows who Karna's father was...😲? Is this not mentioned in KMG ..that Karna was sun's son..😕.. since you believe so much in citations... are you having doubts on it..😳


In Randamoozham novel , Kunti says Vidur as Yudishtir's father , karn's father a suta at her father's place , a tribal for bhima ... No idea if this is true ...
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: riti4u

Just curious to know ...So you think that pandavas were not Gods children ? as suggested by texts .. You think it was a 'Myth' ?
What do you mean who knows who Karna's father was...😲? Is this not mentioned in KMG ..that Karna was sun's son..😕.. since you believe so much in citations... are you having doubts on it..😳


Oh no, I totally believe that they were Gods children😆 -- It was because someone in the previous page mentioned that the citizens were made to believe that Pandavas were children of God, an advantage for them -- i was just working out the logic and conclusions of that belief. Because if it was due to planned rumors that citizens were made to believe that Pandavas were children of God -- then same would go for Karna too no?
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Posted: 11 years ago
@Medha- thanks for clarifying that...😳
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: Medha.S

And what good did it do them to be called Gods children? What kind of advantage did they got from it? And if we are going by, they were 'believed' to be gods children by the citizens for Kuntis and their own benefit -- not because they were Gods children -- just myth --- then there is that, same applies for Karna. who knows who Karnas real father was and if his kavach was invincible or not -- the only father to him was Adhiratha like the only father Pandavas had was Pandu -- not the mythical sun god who is usually believed to be Karna's Father and other gods who are believed to be Pandavas fathers?


@red.. from which post in this thread did you get that from? 😆 Saying 'they knew' or 'they were aware' does not fit a logical argument which I think or expect in this thread hence used the word 'believed'.. dont assume that it means I dont believe it 😆


What kind of advantage? it is not tough to understand what advantage being known as God's own child would give for how well those concepts are digested those days..
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: Medha.S


Oh no, I totally believe that they were Gods children😆 -- It was because someone in the previous page mentioned that the citizens were made to believe that Pandavas were children of God, an advantage for them -- i was just working out the logic and conclusions of that belief. Because if it was due to planned rumors that citizens were made to believe that Pandavas were children of God -- then same would go for Karna too no?


That someone was me 😆😆😆 Sad to know that you cant remember my name... My bad 😭


They being 'made to believe' is a fact.. coz they dint witness it happening.. nor did they read the direct narration from KMG translation 😳 So yah they were made to believe 😆 anything wrong? 😆
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: divyasn


hmm that is adharm rt .. , lusting on their sister in law ...


Well during the marriage ceremony, she probably married Yudhishtir first since he was the oldest -- so the others come under that particular sin category😆. Well, Vyas and Krishna were in favour of the marriage, and wholeheartedly supported it. I dont know more about dharma than these two so ...or maybe these two were just sharp minded politicians who still make people believe in what they believe and humanity is messed up and it truly is kalyug because there are only some clear minded people left who see the truth and the rest of us who believe in Krishnas and Vyasa's words are the ones drowning in the darkness of this Age as we fell for their planned tricks😆. And it is a matter of perspective, if men having many wives is not a sin so its hypocritical to declare a woman having many husband a sin.Men loving many woman is all fine and dandy but woman liking many men is blasphemous -- good grief, how dare you woman?
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: Medha.S


Well during the marriage ceremony, she probably married Yudhishtir first since he was the oldest -- so the others come under that particular sin category😆. Well, Vyas and Krishna were in favour of the marriage, and wholeheartedly supported it. I dont know more about dharma than these two so ...or maybe these two were just sharp minded politicians who still make people believe in what they believe and humanity is messed up and it truly is kalyug because there are only some clear minded people left who see the truth and the rest of us who believe in Krishnas and Vyasa's words are the ones drowning in the darkness of this Age as we fell for their planned tricks😆. And it is a matter of perspective, if men having many wives is not a sin so its hypocritical to declare a woman having many husband a sin.Men loving many woman is all fine and dandy but woman liking many men is blasphemous -- good grief, how dare you woman?


i was telling about pre-marriage time ... , i.e before marriage na .. so i guess it is okay 😃
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: divyasn

One more doubt ... if 100 kauravas can stand together as a team without a common wife , what was the need of Draupadi sharing to keep 5 Pandavas together ... 😕


That is what Kunti and Yudishtra thought.. they may be wrong.. I would assume they were good enough to be together by themselves whether Draupadi married one or none or all.. The advantage of marrying her is the alliance with Panchal IMO..
Edited by ...Diala... - 11 years ago

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