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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: amritat

Ofcouse, they did. U see, I am not talking about the urge to be famous. I am talking about the manner.

I think u misinterpreted my comment. I said, that every person has the right to have glory.
But y make enemies for that of your own accord?
U see, Arjun never challenged Karna initially. It was Karna, who took the first step. And that one step led to ages of enmity. That probably could have been avoided.



karna was the first one to challenge arjuna in rangbhoomi and arjuna was the first one to use the 'kill 'word.He was the one who said that he will kill karna because arjuna felt karna had humiliated him by challenging him
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Posted: 11 years ago
Sabhayata


I think there have some truly good people who have turned adversity into something to help society with. MLK for example or Mandela or even our own MKG


But I think what ⭐️ MB did is totally confusing people. Yeah he got mad at Arjun but forgave them when Sakhi did. But he wouldn't let her forget or forgive the other side


Which is why I think they should left this idea of Samaaj Kalyan alone and presented the epic as is, with their own special emotional touches
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: Sharanya09


No, he did mention to Arjuna that he was also responsible for Drau's attempted VH because he followed Yudhi's orders & didnt stop him. Pls watch the episode again. Keechak incident he didnt mention.


i know what you are talking about that wasn't a ⭐️GG like what bhishm,drona and karna got in which each and every act of theirs was stated to be wrong

what ⭐️krishna said was merely as a passing statement in order to give arjuna the real GG

i mean ⭐️pandavas should get ⭐️Gg gyaan like other's and shown how misguided their obedience to their eldest brother is

but yeah ⭐️krishna has atleast said more to pandavs regarding DS than actual krishna ji did that i agree
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: Sabhayata



karna was the first one to challenge arjuna in rangbhoomi and arjuna was the first one to use the 'kill 'word.He was the one who said that he will kill karna because arjuna felt karna had humiliated him by challenging him

Hmm. U r right. And it was humiliation of a kind. And in those days, the son of a charioteer, whose father was apparently an employee of Hastinapur, entering a family affair, and challenging the prince, was like humiliation. Whether, u accept or not, Caste System was a way of life then. So, a prince getting challenged by the son of an employee, was probably a huge deal. But that is difficult for us to comprehend, as now we have learned to condemn Caste System.
U see, I think both Karna and Arjun were right as well as wrong in their own places.
I personally feel that people should not go looking for enemies, or enmity.
Maybe it was unintentional, but Karna did just that.
And I don't think, that it was the "kill" word that triggered the enmity, It was the challenging, that did it. Throwing a challenge to someone, who does not bother u, out of turn and uninvited, does trigger enmity. I have seen this in other places as well.
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: Sabhayata


i know what you are talking about that wasn't a ⭐️GG like what bhishm,drona and karna got in which each and every act of theirs was stated to be wrong

what ⭐️krishna said was merely as a passing statement in order to give arjuna the real GG

i mean ⭐️pandavas should get ⭐️Gg gyaan like other's and shown how misguided their obedience to their eldest brother is

but yeah ⭐️krishna has atleast said more to pandavs regarding DS than actual krishna ji did that i agree



@red, if every act of Bhisma, Drona & Karna was stated to be wrong & you dont agree to that, you have to take it up with the cvs, not me. You specifically mentioned dyut sabha in your post & i answered to that.

@blue, i disagree. It was not merely a passing statement. Krishna pointed out strongly about his dharma & ⭐️ Arjun realised he was wrong there.


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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: Sharanya09


@blue, i disagree. It was not merely a passing statement. Krishna pointed out strongly about his dharma & ⭐️ Arjun realised he was wrong there.



in that case i guess we have to agree to disagree😊
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: amritat

U see, I think both Karna and Arjun were right as well as wrong in their own places.
I personally feel that people should not go looking for enemies, or enmity.
Maybe it was unintentional, but Karna did just that.
And I don't think, that it was the "kill" word that triggered the enmity, It was the challenging, that did it. Throwing a challenge to someone, who does not bother u, out of turn and uninvited, does trigger enmity. I have seen this in other places as well.


personally i dont think rangbhoomi incident had anyhting to do with their enemity they may have been competitors with karna trying to prove he is better and arjuna trying to prove karna wrong

enemity began as and when karna got more and more involved with dury and his plans against pandavas
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: Sabhayata


in that case i guess we have to agree to disagree😊



Sure agree to disagree😊

Deviating a little, but...if you really want the exact ⭐️ GG setup with the ⭐️pandavas, then forget it. The pandavas have some more years to live unlike Bhishma, drona & karna who WERE almost on their deathbeds😆😆





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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: Sabhayata


personally i dont think rangbhoomi incident had anyhting to do with their enemity they may have been competitors with karna trying to prove he is better and arjuna trying to prove karna wrong

enemity began as and when karna got more and more involved with dury and his plans against pandavas

Yes. But that Rangbhoomi was the starting point.
After Rangbhoomi, we see the Pandavas, getting embroiled in their own problems, getting involved with women, building their own kingdom, etc. We don't find them bothering or conspiring against Karna or Duryodhan of their own accord. But soon after the Rangbhoomi, we tsee he Lakshagriha plot happening. Maybe, this is y, I like the Pandavas more, despite knowing their flaws well.
I don't know, whether the stories have been altered or rewritten or not, but whatever is left of Mahabharat, in that, we don't find the Pandavas as grown-ups disturbing or conspiring against the Kauravas or Karna, unnecessarily or of their own accord. They seemed to have been too embroiled with their own problems and fiery women. 😆
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: bheegi

Today was a scene from an 80s movie


scripted by: Salim+ xyz

acted by: Nirupa Roy, YRF heroes like AB, Shashi kapoor, Dharmendra etc

Ved Vyas must be chuckling or lamenting in heaven...yeh kya hua, kaise hua, kab hua...kyun hua...arre chodo yeh na socho

I just liked the scene when Krishna had tears in his eyes when Karna talked about having two mothers. Who else but Krishna would understand that..


Agree! The Krishna part was the saving grace of the episode for me.

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