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Posted: 11 years ago
I think ⭐️Krishna has completely contradicted his own views about the Pandavas.

Shakuni has been told TWICE by Krishna that the Pandavas will use 'chhal' as a means to achieve victory.
Heck, ⭐️Krishna himself has told Shakuni in explicit terms,"Iss yudh mein Pandavon ki vijay anivaarya hai...kisi bhi maadhyam se..." in other words, ⭐️Krishna WANTS a Pandava victory (well, that is what it seemed like till yesterday...🤔), and that the Pandavas will respond to every shadyantra planned by Shakuni...through fair means or foul.

⭐️Krishna's statements in favour of usage of chhal by the Pandavas -
"Mahamahim Bhishma, Guru Drona aur Angaraj Karna - in teenon ka vadh hoga...vo bhi chhal se..."
"Yadi chhal ka aashray dharma hai, to phir chhal bhi dharma hi hai..."
"Iss yudh mein bal ka prayog hoga aur chhal ka bhi prayog hoga..."

The second statement regarding 'chhal' clearly indicates that Krishna believed that 'dharma' was on the Pandava side, and therefore, they had every right to use 'chhal' so as to respond to the adharma of the Kauravas...

So, after all this, how did the Pandavas suddenly become "adharmis" as per ⭐️Krishna in yesterday's epi?? 😕
And, now that ⭐️Krishna has labelled the Pandavas as 'adharmis', do the Pandavas possess any rights to use chhal in the war?
Edited by -Shani- - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
Exactly! How the pandavas became adharmis all of a sudden? If both the sides have adharmis fighting for them, what's the cause behind StarKrishna supporting the pandavas? He should wipe off the adharmis (of both the sides) himself, what's the purpose of favouring a particular side in such a massive and destructive war?
I'm afraid..dumb audience might get an impression that God was biased..!
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: -Shani-

I think ⭐️Krishna has completely contradicted his own views about the Pandavas.

Shakuni has been told TWICE by Krishna that the Pandavas will use 'chhal' as a means to achieve victory.
Heck, ⭐️Krishna himself has told Shakuni in explicit terms,"Iss yudh mein Pandavon ki vijay anivaarya hai...kisi bhi maadhyam se..." in other words, ⭐️Krishna WANTS a Pandava victory (well, that is what it seemed like till yesterday...🤔), and that the Pandavas will respond to every shadyantra planned by Shakuni...through fair means or foul.

⭐️Krishna's statements in favour of usage of chhal by the Pandavas -
"Mahamahim Bhishma, Guru Drona aur Angaraj Karna - in teenon ka vadh hoga...vo bhi chhal se..."
"Yadi chhal ka aashray dharma hai, to phir chhal bhi dharma hi hai..."
"Iss yudh mein bal ka prayog hoga aur chhal ka bhi prayog hoga..."

The second statement regarding 'chhal' clearly indicates that Krishna believed that 'dharma' was on the Pandava side, and therefore, they had every right to use 'chhal' so as to respond to the adharma of the Kauravas...

So, after all this, how did the Pandavas suddenly become "adharmis" as per ⭐️Krishna in yesterday's epi?? 😕
And, now that ⭐️Krishna has labelled the Pandavas as 'adharmis', do the Pandavas possess any rights to use chhal in the war?


I think ⭐️Krishna is confused...😆
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: -Shruti

Exactly! How the pandavas became adharmis all of a sudden? If both the sides have adharmis fighting for them, what's the cause behind StarKrishna supporting the pandavas? He should wipe off the adharmis (of both the sides) himself, what's the purpose of favouring a particular side in such a massive and destructive war?
I'm afraid..dumb audience might get an impression that God was biased..!

Exactly. He could have brought in Ghatotkacha's son with the magical arrows and mantras who would continue to fight on the losing side. Eventually, only he remains. And StarKrishna could teach him the Gita and present him with knowledge about how to rule and life would be a-okay.
Edited by shyam09 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
Why have ⭐️bharat's CVs named Mahabharat a dharma yudh? What Dharma was achieved by it? And in the war itself several times people were killed by adharma so how exactly is mahabharat a dharma yuddha? - These have always been my biggest doubts.
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: Crazypheonix008

Why have ⭐️bharat's CVs named Mahabharat a dharma yudh? What Dharma was achieved by it? And in the war itself several times people were killed by adharma so how exactly is mahabharat a dharma yuddha? - These have always been my biggest doubts.


as per me because this was a war for justice for pandvas it is dharam yudh
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Posted: 11 years ago
yes it isnt solely starbharat's, the actual Mahabharat via the voice of Krishna espouses the war as a 'Dharma-yudh though its debatable as to the principles that were issued in the name of righteousness that were to serve an almost utilitarian purpose for the better good and this perplexing to someone trying to grapple with the seeming contradictions that is presented, i have never understood how the war was qualified as Dharmic, it doesnt seem a straightforward matter as that, good v evil.
ongoing reflection mayhaps reveal some crack of light further down the road
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Posted: 11 years ago
@sabhyata but pandavas don't represent the entire society so how can any justice done to them result in the good of the entire society?
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Posted: 11 years ago
@daenerysnow Exactly! this is not a war of simply good vs evil as no character in the epic is completely black or white. All have grey shades.
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: Crazypheonix008

@sabhyata but pandavas don't represent the entire society so how can any justice done to them result in the good of the entire society?


ya that way you are right fighting the war for betterment of society is just ⭐️bharat creation to justify the war.Krishna ji in the epic never says fight this war for betterment of society and all

but yeah its still generally interpreted as dharam yudh becuase krishna ji who is god was involved and under the leadership of yudhishtir he was to establish dharma..But i am not sure how successful this establishment of dharma was

personally for me i view it as dharma yudh because it was war for justice for a family not the whole society but a family seeked justice through his war against unjust people so that is why i consider it as dharma yudh

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