When Gandhari tried to burn Yudhi, blamed Bheem and cursed Krishna - Page 6

Originally posted by: Medha.S

CBSE, 12th class, second unit - class, kinship and all that ... mostly the story, Vishnu and Shiva worship, women's condition in politics and society, gender discrimination ..

How one could become King, Some excerpts from different Parvas.

Arjuna, Draupadi, Yudhishtira - who they were, some known comments and stories ... Castes and occupation.

feuds between the first two castes.

Who wrote Mahabharat, different places found after excavation etc. etc.

Even I opted for science, missed everything!

Originally posted by: Medha.S

Oh yes, My Father was shocked because it was not the case when he was in school.

Mahabharat is taught as history now.

You know they found Krishna's Dwarka underwater just how it is described in MB.

Other objects have been found in the excavation.

Maybe that is why.

Anyways, Gandhari's Hundred Sons were dead.

Now Yudhishtira was going to be the King of Hastinapur.

She must be feeling as if it was all done for him. To make him the King.

And as i said, that if you dont want to blame yourself, you can keep blaming everyone else.

She went from Yudhishthira to Bheem to Krishna ... she wasn't ready to accept that shew herself was at more fault.

Originally posted by: bhas1066

hell i never expected such a thread! i was so angry on the CVs for the precap and to my surprise i find people thinking like this for Gandhari!!

Isnt this the typical indian mindset - blame the mother for all the faults of her children???

come on people, thinka bit from her perspective and in retrospect of the circumstances in which she says those things!

@ medha:

u say the DILs were jealous of draupadi.
yes they were initially , doesnt mean they were ok with VH or didnt protest.
Then when Draupadi was about to set out she went unto the illustrious Pritha and solicited her leave. And she also asked leave of the other ladies of the household who had all been plunged into grief. And saluting and embracing every one of them as each deserved, she desired to go away.
The wives of the Bharatas, uniting with Gandhari upon beholding virtuous Krishna, the wedded wife of the Pandavas, endued with
beauty and youth, dragged into the court, set up frightful wail. Even now, along with all my subjects, they weep every day.

when does gandhari doesnt rebuke her sons?
She tells Dhrit not to harbour false hopes that Duryodhana would win against Pandavas because veteran warriors like Bhishma, Drona, Kripa and others are with him. "They might fight for Duryodhana because of a sense of loyalty to him for having been in his service (rajapinda bhayat); and, they might even give up their lives for him. But, it would be foolish of Duryodhana to depend on these men to secure him a victory in the final war. He should be beware of these old fighters who well know in their hearts what is right (dharma), and who will therefore bring no serious harm to the Pandavas".

In the Sabha Parva, She advised her husband to stop the (first) game of dice. Then again, after the second dice game, Gandhari chides Dhritarastra for allowing Duryodhana to humiliate Draupadi in the open court. This reprehensible act, she said, would surely rekindle a dead fire, topple a bridge re-built and destroy his whole dynasty.


In the Udyoga Parva, after Krishna's failed attempts to bring about peace between the warring groups of cousins, the King Dhritarastra asks Gandhari to be brought into the court. He was hoping that his mother's words of love and wisdom might help Duryodhana to see reason and give up the belligerent path. She did try honestly to counsel her angry son; pleaded with him to eschew the needless war. But, of course, she too fails to convince him.
She blames Dhritarastra for undue fondness for his sons and for not disciplining them despite being aware of their unrighteous desires and thoughtless methods. It is too late now for force,' she says. Krishna too appreciates her efforts: "You have, in the open court, repeatedly and rightly spoken words wisdom and justice for the welfare of both the sides thirsting for war"(Mbh. IX.62.57).

Before going into the battle on the final day , Duryodhana seeks the blessings of his mother . She does bless him heartily. But , she also remarks " Listen to my words , O fool , where there is righteousness there is victory ( Srunu mudha vachomyaham yato dharmastato jayah - Salya Parva 63.62).

Krishna again lauds Gandhari " O the gracious Lady , there is none comperable to you in the whole world" (tat samam nasti loke sminnadya simantini shubhe - Salya Parva 63.59)

just because her sons or husband doesnt isten to her , it doesnt make her to be wrong!

if she wanted to curse yudi why would she even divert her eyes to the ground? and as per the text its not his feet but finger nails. the lady has lost all of her sons and grandsons but she is not even allowed to singe yudi'd finger nails!!! wow!!
and then bhim tells an open lie that the blood did not pass through his lips!!really??

was gandhari a bad stepmother to yuyutsu? does she ever fault him for changing sides?

The earth, strewn with severed heads and hands and other limbs mingled together and gathered in large heaps, looks resplendent with these signs of havoc! Beholding many headless trunks of great beauty, and many heads without trunks, those fair ones have been lying senseless on the ground for a long while. Uniting particular heads with particular trunks, those ladies, senseless with grief, are again discovering their mistakes and saying, "This is not this one's," and are weeping more bitterly! Others, uniting arms and thighs and feet, cut off with shafts, are giving way to grief and losing their senses repeatedly (at the sight of the restored forms). Some amongst the Bharata ladies, beholding the bodies of their lords,"bodies that have been mangled by animals and birds and severed of their heads,"are not succeeding in recognising them. Others, beholding their brothers, sires, sons, and husbands slain by foes, are, O destroyer of Madhu, striking their heads with their own hands.

this is the sight she sees her sons and grandsons for first time after her marriage! how will any mother react? how can anyone not feel anger?

yes she curses the God Krishna for the injustice to her. Any other women in her place would have done the same. thats what we all do when we are in grief and deeated by life - turn to god and blame him for everything! that doesnt make her a bad person - just humane.


IMO , if only she had not blindfolded herself , maybe things would have been better, but who knows??


p.s. my post has come out a bit strongly but i mean no offense to anyone

Well said Bhas. Thats a more balanced take. No one in MB was absolutely right or absolutely evil. Each character had shades of grey.

Originally posted by: darklight

OH my god,yes I know about the dwarika thing I read it online as I love connecting history and Mahabharat,You must be knowing this too ,I was so excited when I came to know that they have found some small statues or something of seals(I don't remember the animal properly but...) in the some part of Gujarat as Krishnji ruled somewhere there I think.citizens were required to show them which prooved they were citizens of Dwarka (This is mentioned)and the same seals were found at that place.I think it was predicted that a flood will come and see Dwarka is in sea now.I am so happy Mahabharat is historically been taught now...

Can you please tell me books name I would love to download😊

Simply finding a few artefacts mentioned in the MB does not prove that MB tales were historical facts. If we have to compose a novel today we could do it in the present settings and weave a story inspired by current events. Years later people would be able to find some buildings or structures that would coincide with the story but that cannot be taken as a conclusive proof to tell facts apart from fiction. If MB was a historical work then for a strat we need to have more logical explanations regarding the births of the pandavas and kauravas. The miracles too need to be explained. Until then it will continue to be regarded largely as a mythology albeit one with many important lessons for humanity for all times to come.

Well said.. good to see this aspect of gandhar being discussed..

honestly in my perspective Gandhari always embodied grey shades.. and more so I find her reason for blindfolding her self pathetically childish truly there seems to be no need especially when her and her husband are not simply blinded by sight but by their minds as well.. neither can say they truly put in their best efforts to stop their son.. and I have always had an issue with the so called king.. as a leader he has the right to take the final decision yet he was weak not due to his blindness but by conviction, determination and the ability to support the truth in an unbiased manner... for a king the truth his people should be above all he is a father a husband but above all a king.. he failed in all areas.. before one blames a child for his actions we question as to their upbringing.. after all a child learns by observation if they were not reprimanded as children they will simply go on beleiving the world revolves around them..

I'm not saying the parents were evil yet they were unable to fulfill their responsibilities properly the mother could not comprehend when her children had crossed all limits and the father foolishly believed him asking for forgiveness on their behalf and giving them a promise to give back their freedom was enough to overlook him sitting silently while a women's self respect was publicly shattered to pieces really I was disgusted by their behavior ...as parents they were worries about their children but as a women should the mother not have realized the gravity of the events that had taken place.. overall they were in denial accepting fault for their actions was too much to ask of them and blaming others is human nature..!!

To your utmost irritation,

Thanks for this post.

Originally posted by: --Shina--

they have shown Dhritrashtra n Gandhari in very bad light
in original Mahabharat they were never show this bad 😕...they only loved their sons but never supported Duryodhan in cheer haran 😕

Originally posted by: Joja

Thanks for this post.

Infact I was thinking about her after the Vastra haran .

When she orders to put off all the lamp/light in HP and Dury and Shakuni comes there. She was only pwrried about her Sons. Not even once she felt bad for Draupadi or Pandavas. She didnt talk about injustice done to them. She was only and only worried about her children.

Understand being a mother she should/would be. But Pandavas are also her children , arent they?

Even as a Queen she should always think about justice and be just, was she?